On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>
> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy wanted
> the
> worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.

He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
apparently no consequences for that.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881

>>Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.

>He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>apparently no consequences for that.

PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.

There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.

I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.

On 4/15/23 2:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>>
>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy wanted
>> the
>> worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.
>
> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
> apparently no consequences for that.

Hopefully Trump will be prosecuted for espionage too.

On 2023-04-15 3:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>
>>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>> wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.
>
>> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>> apparently no consequences for that.
>
> PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
> kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
> old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
> implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
> been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.
>
> There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.
>
> I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
> violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
> these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
> there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.

You're not worried about "slippery slopes"? After all, the individual
who is brazen enough to say anti-Semitic things who gets away with it
might feel the urge to "walk the walk" and actually burn down a
synagogue or whatever?

--
Rhino

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>On 2023-04-15 3:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881

>>>>Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>>>wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.

>>>He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>>>apparently no consequences for that.

>>PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
>>kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
>>old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
>>implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
>>been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.

>>There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.

>>I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
>>violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
>>these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
>>there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.

>You're not worried about "slippery slopes"? After all, the individual
>who is brazen enough to say anti-Semitic things who gets away with it
>might feel the urge to "walk the walk" and actually burn down a
>synagogue or whatever?

I have no ability to predict who will commit a crime in future.

On 2023-04-15 9:28 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-04-15 3:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>
>>>>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>>>> wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.
>
>>>> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>>>> apparently no consequences for that.
>
>>> PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
>>> kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
>>> old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
>>> implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
>>> been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.
>
>>> There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.
>
>>> I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
>>> violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
>>> these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
>>> there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.
>
>> You're not worried about "slippery slopes"? After all, the individual
>> who is brazen enough to say anti-Semitic things who gets away with it
>> might feel the urge to "walk the walk" and actually burn down a
>> synagogue or whatever?
>
> I have no ability to predict who will commit a crime in future.

Fair enough. But doesn't it make you uneasy to think of what such a
person might do?

By the way, you might find this interesting. Apparently there's some new
evidence on the old controversy of whether Hitler was himself 1/4 Jewish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJushCGvuQ [13 minutes]

The presenter is a very well-regarded professional historian, not some
crackpot or David Irving wannabe.

--
Rhino

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>On 2023-04-15 9:28 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-04-15 3:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>>
>>>>>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>>>>> wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.
>>
>>>>> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>>>>> apparently no consequences for that.
>>
>>>> PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
>>>> kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
>>>> old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
>>>> implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
>>>> been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.
>>
>>>> There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.
>>
>>>> I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
>>>> violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
>>>> these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
>>>> there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.
>>
>>> You're not worried about "slippery slopes"? After all, the individual
>>> who is brazen enough to say anti-Semitic things who gets away with it
>>> might feel the urge to "walk the walk" and actually burn down a
>>> synagogue or whatever?
>>
>> I have no ability to predict who will commit a crime in future.
>
>Fair enough. But doesn't it make you uneasy to think of what such a
>person might do?

I try not to imagine tragedies.

>By the way, you might find this interesting. Apparently there's some new
>evidence on the old controversy of whether Hitler was himself 1/4 Jewish:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJushCGvuQ [13 minutes]

>The presenter is a very well-regarded professional historian, not some
>crackpot or David Irving wannabe.

Ok. I've heard suggestions like that before.

On 2023-04-15 9:52 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-04-15 9:28 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-04-15 3:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881
>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>>>>>> wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.
>>>
>>>>>> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>>>>>> apparently no consequences for that.
>>>
>>>>> PBS NewsHour infuriated me last night 4/14/2023. They had a woman who
>>>>> kept calling it "hate speech" and "indoctrination" because the 21 year
>>>>> old and the teenage boys were repeating anti-Semitic memes. She was
>>>>> implying either that the motivation for the leak was the 21 year old had
>>>>> been indoctrinated, or he was indoctrinating the boys. It was confusing.
>>>
>>>>> There was no basis for anything she said and the host didn't challenge it.
>>>
>>>>> I'm concerned about property crimes -- vandalism, graffiti, arson -- or
>>>>> violence against persons in which hatred is a motivating factor. Without
>>>>> these crimes taking place, or planning the commission of such crimes,
>>>>> there can be no inferences drawn from trading insults.
>>>
>>>> You're not worried about "slippery slopes"? After all, the individual
>>>> who is brazen enough to say anti-Semitic things who gets away with it
>>>> might feel the urge to "walk the walk" and actually burn down a
>>>> synagogue or whatever?
>>>
>>> I have no ability to predict who will commit a crime in future.
>>
>> Fair enough. But doesn't it make you uneasy to think of what such a
>> person might do?
>
> I try not to imagine tragedies.
>
>> By the way, you might find this interesting. Apparently there's some new
>> evidence on the old controversy of whether Hitler was himself 1/4 Jewish:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJushCGvuQ [13 minutes]
>
>> The presenter is a very well-regarded professional historian, not some
>> crackpot or David Irving wannabe.
>
> Ok. I've heard suggestions like that before.

That sounds skeptical. Seriously, Felton is the real deal. I've been
watching his videos for years. His channel is staunchly apolitical and
if you read the comments under each and every video, a large percentage
of them say "Wow, I thought I knew pretty much everything about WWII but
I never knew THAT!"

For what it's worth, he doesn't prove or disprove that Hitler had Jewish
blood; he mostly recaps the existing theories/claims, which most of us
have heard, but adds what recent DNA testing has revealed on the
subject. That evidence is probably NOT conclusive as I understand DNA.

--
Rhino

On 04/15/2023 04:39 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2023 at 11:13:23 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65281881

>>> Apparently, this is the first case of espionage for attention. Guy
>>> wanted the worship of his "teen" peers. What a loser.

>> He should have just left the docs scattered around his garage. There's
>> apparently no consequences for that.

The Bluth's would likely call this a case of "light treason"...