On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:26:25 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-26 11:15 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-4,
> >> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>> On 2022-10-26 4:32 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: > George J. Dance wrote: >
> >>> >> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote: >> > On Tuesday, 18 October
> >>> 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote: >> >> >> Here is Sarah
> >>> McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s >> >> Hallelujah. Even though
> >>> many people have covered it, >> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing
> >>> it---she does a beautiful >> >> version. >> >> >> >>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI >> >> >> >> (And I hope
> >>> I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.) >> >> >> >> Also the
> >>> song is only partly religious. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Dalton
> >>> dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) >> >>
> >>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns >>
> >>> (mystic page) >> >> "And I know the young man with a century's
> >>> face/A philosopher king >> - he >> >> will try to amaze/With
> >>> examples of love and examples of hate" (T. >> Tikaram) >> > >> >
> >>> >> > This has not worked out well for you, has it? > >> *What* do
> >>> you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The >> song?
> >>> > > ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident..
> >>> It's possible that the MEatpuppet replied to the wrong person's post
> >>> by accident; but not very likely that she'd have made the same
> >>> mistake twice in a row. Still, if the Monkeys had claimed that's what
> >>> happened, either in a post from her or an alleged "email" from her to
> >>> MMP, then we could accept it, drop it, and move on.
> >>> Instead, they're stuck defending this cockamamie story that somehow
> >>> all the backthread got scrambled by this glitch in the internet.
> >>> > Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> >
> >> Pay attention, George.
> >
> >> Here is what I said:
> >
> >> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual),
> >
> > Definitely not the correct answer.
> Agreed. Neither Dalton's post nor the MEatpuppet's were made on NovaBBS,
> nor am I reading them there. I have looked on narkive and of course
> Thunderbird, as well as Google, and they all show the MEatpuppet
> replying to Dr. Dalton. So, while it's possible (at least one chance in
> a million) that usenet could have mixed up the headers, there's no
> reason to think NovaBBS had anything to do with it.
> >
> >> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of
> >> Dalton's post
> >
> > Possibly >
> No, that is impossible. The MEatpuppet couldn't have been responding to
> Zod's statement in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post, because Zod's
> statement wasn't in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post.
>
> Just saying Zod's post is not in the backthread isn't conclusive. What
> is conclusive is thhe fact that Zod's post couldn't have been in the
> backthread. That's Dr. Dalton's post, the one to which the MEatpuppet
> replied (twice), didn't have any backthread: he made the original post
> in the thread.
>
> So that scenario is patently false; we don't even have to consider it.
>
>
> > = ME fucked up.
> >
> Knowing the MEatpuppet, that is possible, but I don't see how even she
> could have fucked up in that way. Google is virtually idiot-proof in
> that respect: You read a post, click a "reply" option right on that
> post, and your reply is linked to it automatically. So I don't think
> it's likely.
>
> I think it's more likely, given the Chimp's Invasion of the Body
> Snatchers paranoia about the "plant" people, and ME's subsequent
> trolling of Mack, that she just assumed Dr. Dalton was Mack or another
> "plant" person.
>
> > HTH and HAND.

Yes, this is a pattern ME has been in since even the Topix Forums days, when she thought I was everyone, even the Topix Forums moderator.

🙂

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:43:37 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 3:12 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:58:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-27 12:21 a.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:15:32 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-25 9:28 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, I don't think the MEatpuppet fucked up; it looks like she was
> >>>> trolling Dr. Dalton deliberately, under the impression he was "Mack"
> >>>> using a different name.
> >>>>
> >>>> But yes, MMP's just trying to make excuses for her again, just as he did
> >>>> when she was trolling "Mack" in the NIMBY thread.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Now wait a moment...didn't you put it on me, e-mailing ME about the 'plants' to include David Dalton?
> >> No. I said you'd told the MEatpuppet about the "plants", but I didn't
> >> say you'd told her any names. It's pretty obvious that "plants" would
> >> keep changing their names -- and pretty damn sad that the MEatpuppet
> >> could figure that out, even if you couldn't.
> >
> > How would you know what (if anything) Jim said to ME?
> The Chimp's been posting his conspiracy theories about the Team Donkey
> "plants" on aapc for at least a week. Of course you may have missed them.
> > Your conspiracy theories have gotten the better of you, George.
> >
> The conspiracy theory about the "plants" isn't mine, you know. Why would
> you pretend it is?

The trolls are a paranoid bunch, eh ...?

On 2022-10-26 9:01 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 8:33:42 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>>>>
>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>>> (mystic page)
>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>>> Tikaram)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>>
>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
>> Plain as day, ME was clearly responding to David Dalton, NOT me...!
>
> George Dance is facetiously asking the above question because ME's response is obviously *not* to Mr. Dalton's post.
>

The MEatpuppet's troll is not "obviously" to anyone who'd posted, by the
text. By the thread attributions (the 'headers') it's obviously to Dr.
Dalton.

> How piss-blind drunk are you tonight, Stink?

How much did you have to drink?

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-26 9:01 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 8:33:42 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>>>> (mystic page)
>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>>>> Tikaram)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>>>
>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
>>> Plain as day, ME was clearly responding to David Dalton, NOT me...!
>>
>> George Dance is facetiously asking the above question because ME's response is obviously *not* to Mr. Dalton's post.
>>

> The MEatpuppet's troll is not "obviously" to anyone who'd posted, by the
> text. By the thread attributions (the 'headers') it's obviously to Dr.
> Dalton.

True, one of the biggest lines of bullshit (or monkey shit) that pendragon's tried to run on us yet.

>> How piss-blind drunk are you tonight, Stink?

> How much did you have to drink?

:)

On 2022-10-27 10:43 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:26:25 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-26 11:15 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-4,
>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-10-26 4:32 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: > George J. Dance wrote: >
>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote: >> > On Tuesday, 18 October
>>>>> 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote: >> >> >> Here is Sarah
>>>>> McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s >> >> Hallelujah. Even though
>>>>> many people have covered it, >> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing
>>>>> it---she does a beautiful >> >> version. >> >> >> >>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI >> >> >> >> (And I hope
>>>>> I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.) >> >> >> >> Also the
>>>>> song is only partly religious. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Dalton
>>>>> dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) >> >>
>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns >>
>>>>> (mystic page) >> >> "And I know the young man with a century's
>>>>> face/A philosopher king >> - he >> >> will try to amaze/With
>>>>> examples of love and examples of hate" (T. >> Tikaram) >> > >> >
>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it? > >> *What* do
>>>>> you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The >> song?
>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
>>>>> It's possible that the MEatpuppet replied to the wrong person's post
>>>>> by accident; but not very likely that she'd have made the same
>>>>> mistake twice in a row. Still, if the Monkeys had claimed that's what
>>>>> happened, either in a post from her or an alleged "email" from her to
>>>>> MMP, then we could accept it, drop it, and move on.
>>>>> Instead, they're stuck defending this cockamamie story that somehow
>>>>> all the backthread got scrambled by this glitch in the internet.
>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
>>>
>>>> Pay attention, George.
>>>
>>>> Here is what I said:
>>>
>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual),
>>>
>>> Definitely not the correct answer.
>> Agreed. Neither Dalton's post nor the MEatpuppet's were made on NovaBBS,
>> nor am I reading them there.
>
> But Stink's probably was.
>
> And ME was responding to Stink.
>

According to the headers, you responded to Zod yourself the same day in
the same thread. No sign of a "glitch".

>> I have looked on narkive and of course
>> Thunderbird, as well as Google, and they all show the MEatpuppet
>> replying to Dr. Dalton. So, while it's possible (at least one chance in
>> a million) that usenet could have mixed up the headers, there's no
>
> My reason for thinking it is because Nova BS often does that to me.
>

I've never heard of or seen it happening to anyone, including you.

>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of
>>>> Dalton's post
>>>
>>> Possibly >
>> No, that is impossible. The MEatpuppet couldn't have been responding to
>> Zod's statement in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post, because Zod's
>> statement wasn't in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post.
>
> It's in the thread.
>

It is not "within the body of Dalton's post", as you falsely claimed.
There was zero backthread in Dr. Dalton's post. None. Nada. Zilch.

>> Just saying Zod's post is not in the backthread isn't conclusive. What
>> is conclusive is the fact that Zod's post couldn't have been in the
>> backthread. That's Dr. Dalton's post, the one to which the MEatpuppet
>> replied (twice), didn't have any backthread: he made the original post
>> in the thread.
>>
>> So that scenario is patently false; we don't even have to consider it.
>
> Stink's post preceded ME's in the thread. That is all that is required for her to have responded to it.

But there's no evidence - just your and your MEatpuppet's claims - that
she did respond to it, or that she even saw it.

> If it doesn't appear in the backthread, but nevertheless appears prior to hers in the thread, this lends further credence to my first theory regarding NovaBS.

There is no "credence" - again, besides your claim - that NovaBBS had
anything to do with it.

>
>>> = ME fucked up.
>>>
>> Knowing the MEatpuppet, that is possible, but I don't see how even she
>> could have fucked up in that way. Google is virtually idiot-proof in
>> that respect: You read a post, click a "reply" option right on that
>> post, and your reply is linked to it automatically. So I don't think
>> it's likely.
>
> There are plenty of ways for such things to happen, George. Use that MENSA level IQ for a change.
>
> For instance, she could have read all of the posts in the thread (leaving them open) before responding. When responding, she did so in a post made by Dalton.
>
> Or she may have thought of her reply after having left the thread. In her hurry to post her reply, she clicked on a random post in the thread, skimmed it, thought it looked like the one she wanted to reply to, and left her post there.
>

Too bad you both have already ruled that out, and gone for the phantom
"glitch" theory instead.

> Not everyone places as much weight on AAPC as you and your fellow Splooges.
>

But Team Monkey certainly does; and I think we've seen by now that the
MEatpuppet's on that team.

>> I think it's more likely, given the Chimp's Invasion of the Body
>> Snatchers paranoia about the "plant" people, and ME's subsequent
>> trolling of Mack, that she just assumed Dr. Dalton was Mack or another
>> "plant" person.
>
> For all I know, he may be.

As I've told you, he was posting here a dozen years before you even
showed up.

>
> But, again, you had to ask ME how her post related to Dalton's song in any way... whereas anyone can see that it relates directly to Stink's.

No; I gave the MEatpuppet a chance to explain (and she ran to you for
help), but that doesn't mean I couldn't figure it out. She thought
"Mack" or another plant person was trying to "infiltrate" the group
again (and getting 'caught' again).

On 2022-10-27 10:21 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:43:37 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-27 3:12 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:58:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-27 12:21 a.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:15:32 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-10-25 9:28 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, I don't think the MEatpuppet fucked up; it looks like she was
>>>>>> trolling Dr. Dalton deliberately, under the impression he was "Mack"
>>>>>> using a different name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yes, MMP's just trying to make excuses for her again, just as he did
>>>>>> when she was trolling "Mack" in the NIMBY thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now wait a moment...didn't you put it on me, e-mailing ME about the 'plants' to include David Dalton?
>>>> No. I said you'd told the MEatpuppet about the "plants", but I didn't
>>>> say you'd told her any names. It's pretty obvious that "plants" would
>>>> keep changing their names -- and pretty damn sad that the MEatpuppet
>>>> could figure that out, even if you couldn't.
>>>
>>> How would you know what (if anything) Jim said to ME?
>> The Chimp's been posting his conspiracy theories about the Team Donkey
>> "plants" on aapc for at least a week. Of course you may have missed them.
>
> Since when has Jim become "The Chimp"?

He's been "Chimp Obsesso" for at least three years. I know you don't
read much nowadays, and I don't repeat these names as often as you do
your childish ones, but it's rather strange that you're clueless about
that.

>
> Damn, George! You change your childish nicknames for people so often that it's almost impossible to know who you're talking about.

You 3 have been the Monkey, the Chimp, and the Big Buffoon for at least
a year; ever since the day Karen came up with "monkey" for you.

>
> On first read, I thought you were referring to my "Coco" persona, but couldn't think of what conspiracy theories your were whining about.
>

sorry for your confusion. The "Chimp" is Chimp Obsesso, and the
conspiracy theory is your theory of the paid "plants" infiltrating aapc.

>>> Your conspiracy theories have gotten the better of you, George.
>>>
>> The conspiracy theory about the "plants" isn't mine, you know. Why would
>> you pretend it is?
>
> I haven't any theories about "plants," George. You seem to thing that the alleged "Team Monkey" (a conspiracy theory in itself) has been posting its own conspiracy theories about you and your Donkey.

Nonsense; you haven't used the word "plant" or that they were being paid
(that was purely the Chimp), but you've said the same thing time and
time again about new people who land here on their own.

On 2022-10-27 10:28 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:35:06 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-27 3:22 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:08:55 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-27 12:35 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:15:32 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-10-25 9:28 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, I don't think the MEatpuppet fucked up; it looks like she was
>>>>>> trolling Dr. Dalton deliberately, under the impression he was "Mack"
>>>>>> using a different name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yes, MMP's just trying to make excuses for her again, just as he did
>>>>>> when she was trolling "Mack" in the NIMBY thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> ME has said that she was addressing General Stink, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you insist on lying about it?
>>>> I've asked you several times, not be so dishonest, Michael. Whether you
>>>> made up the "email" story or not, no one will deny that your MEatpuppet
>>>> agrees with you.
>>>>
>>>> What I told you is that that's what meatpuppets do; having your own
>>>> meatpuppet agree with you doesn't mean anything more than you agreeing
>>>> with yourself.
>>>
>>> I'll advise you not to call me a liar, George.
>>>
>> I'll be more than happy to not have reason to.
>
> You haven't been given any -- but it hasn't stopped you from shooting off your mouth.
>
>>> ME sent me an email confirming that she was responding to Stink.
>> And you falsely accused me of "lying about that". When what I've told
>> you is that claiming that your're right because your meatpuppet agrees
>> with you counts is no better than claiming you're right because you say
>
> And that *is* a lie.
>
> You may have deluded yourself into believing it, but that doesn't make it any less of a lie.
>
>>> If your IQ was half of what you pretend, you would see that here post directly replies to Stinks.
>>>
>> Fortunately, my IQ is double that; so it's not all that hard to read the
>> thread to and see that both her posts in this thread were trolls of
>> David Dalton['s OP. Hell, Will and Zod both did the same; and you
>> "pretend" to have a higher IQ than either of them.
>>> And let us not forget that you'd previously questioned how her post applied to Mr. Dalton's:
>>>
>>> "*What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?"
>>>
>>> How do you explain that, George?
>>>
>> Rather than assume what she meant by "this", I asked her to explain it.
>
> The fact that you were unable to apply it to Dalton's post should have alerted you to the fact that her message wasn't directed at Dalton.

"This" can apply to any post in the thread.

>> Instead of answering, of course, she ran away and you took up the troll
>> baton.
>
> Why should ME bother with your nonsense?
>

The MEatpuppet doesn't have to answer questions. Nor did you have to try
to answer for her.

> There's no point in arguing with bratty children. You're going to stick out your tongues and chant "Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!" regardless of what anyone says.

If you thought that, you'd stop. But you can't stop because, as I've
previously noted, you're a last-worder.

On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
>>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
>>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
>>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
>>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> , or
>>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
>>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
>>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
>>>>>> all the backthread, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
>>>>>> before I stepped in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
>>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
>>>>>> Dalton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
>>>>>
>>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
>>>>
>>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
>>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
>>>> heart is in the right place.
>>>
>>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
>>
>>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.

In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
someone else.

>>>
>>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
>>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
>>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
>>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
>>>
>>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.

Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
never have heard of) to Mack.

>> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
>> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
>> with them.
>
> I haven't attacked Mack, George.
>
> PP or STFU.

See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>>>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
> >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
> >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> , or
> >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
> >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
> >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
> >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
> >>>>>> before I stepped in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
> >>>>
> >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
> >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
> >>>> heart is in the right place.
> >>>
> >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
> >>
> >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
>
>
> In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
> someone else.
>
> >>>
> >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
> >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
> >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
> >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
> >>>
> >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
>
>
> Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
> never have heard of) to Mack.
>
>
> >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
> >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
> >> with them.
> >
> > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
> >
> > PP or STFU.
>
>
> See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
> of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

Typical example of Usenet trolls, they always seem to want to drive off the newbies.

And so it goes.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-27 10:21 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:43:37 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-10-27 3:12 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:58:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-10-27 12:21 a.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:15:32 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-10-25 9:28 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said, I don't think the MEatpuppet fucked up; it looks like she was
>>>>>>> trolling Dr. Dalton deliberately, under the impression he was "Mack"
>>>>>>> using a different name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But yes, MMP's just trying to make excuses for her again, just as he did
>>>>>>> when she was trolling "Mack" in the NIMBY thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now wait a moment...didn't you put it on me, e-mailing ME about the 'plants' to include David Dalton?
>>>>> No. I said you'd told the MEatpuppet about the "plants", but I didn't
>>>>> say you'd told her any names. It's pretty obvious that "plants" would
>>>>> keep changing their names -- and pretty damn sad that the MEatpuppet
>>>>> could figure that out, even if you couldn't.
>>>>
>>>> How would you know what (if anything) Jim said to ME?
>>> The Chimp's been posting his conspiracy theories about the Team Donkey
>>> "plants" on aapc for at least a week. Of course you may have missed them.
>>
>> Since when has Jim become "The Chimp"?

> He's been "Chimp Obsesso" for at least three years. I know you don't
> read much nowadays, and I don't repeat these names as often as you do
> your childish ones, but it's rather strange that you're clueless about
> that.

>>
>> Damn, George! You change your childish nicknames for people so often that it's almost impossible to know who you're talking about.

> You 3 have been the Monkey, the Chimp, and the Big Buffoon for at least
> a year; ever since the day Karen came up with "monkey" for you.

>>
>> On first read, I thought you were referring to my "Coco" persona, but couldn't think of what conspiracy theories your were whining about.
>>

> sorry for your confusion. The "Chimp" is Chimp Obsesso, and the
> conspiracy theory is your theory of the paid "plants" infiltrating aapc.

>>>> Your conspiracy theories have gotten the better of you, George.
>>>>
>>> The conspiracy theory about the "plants" isn't mine, you know. Why would
>>> you pretend it is?
>>
>> I haven't any theories about "plants," George. You seem to thing that the alleged "Team Monkey" (a conspiracy theory in itself) has been posting its own conspiracy theories about you and your Donkey.

> Nonsense; you haven't used the word "plant" or that they were being paid
> (that was purely the Chimp), but you've said the same thing time and
> time again about new people who land here on their own.

In fact, that's something ME was stuck on even back in the Topix Forums days, she regularly thought I was other posters, even accused me for at least a year of being the Topix Forums moderator.

She might have even accused me of being you and Pendragon when she first got here, George.

I vaguely remember something like that, I'd have to look it up, though.

🙂

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:59:12 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 10:28 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:35:06 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-27 3:22 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:08:55 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-27 12:35 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:15:32 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-25 9:28 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>> No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I said, I don't think the MEatpuppet fucked up; it looks like she was
> >>>>>> trolling Dr. Dalton deliberately, under the impression he was "Mack"
> >>>>>> using a different name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But yes, MMP's just trying to make excuses for her again, just as he did
> >>>>>> when she was trolling "Mack" in the NIMBY thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ME has said that she was addressing General Stink, George.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you insist on lying about it?
> >>>> I've asked you several times, not be so dishonest, Michael. Whether you
> >>>> made up the "email" story or not, no one will deny that your MEatpuppet
> >>>> agrees with you.
> >>>>
> >>>> What I told you is that that's what meatpuppets do; having your own
> >>>> meatpuppet agree with you doesn't mean anything more than you agreeing
> >>>> with yourself.
> >>>
> >>> I'll advise you not to call me a liar, George.
> >>>
> >> I'll be more than happy to not have reason to.
> >
> > You haven't been given any -- but it hasn't stopped you from shooting off your mouth.
> >
> >>> ME sent me an email confirming that she was responding to Stink.
> >> And you falsely accused me of "lying about that". When what I've told
> >> you is that claiming that your're right because your meatpuppet agrees
> >> with you counts is no better than claiming you're right because you say
> >
> > And that *is* a lie.
> >
> > You may have deluded yourself into believing it, but that doesn't make it any less of a lie.
> >
> >>> If your IQ was half of what you pretend, you would see that here post directly replies to Stinks.
> >>>
> >> Fortunately, my IQ is double that; so it's not all that hard to read the
> >> thread to and see that both her posts in this thread were trolls of
> >> David Dalton['s OP. Hell, Will and Zod both did the same; and you
> >> "pretend" to have a higher IQ than either of them.
> >>> And let us not forget that you'd previously questioned how her post applied to Mr. Dalton's:
> >>>
> >>> "*What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?"
> >>>
> >>> How do you explain that, George?
> >>>
> >> Rather than assume what she meant by "this", I asked her to explain it.
> >
> > The fact that you were unable to apply it to Dalton's post should have alerted you to the fact that her message wasn't directed at Dalton.
> "This" can apply to any post in the thread.
> >> Instead of answering, of course, she ran away and you took up the troll
> >> baton.
> >
> > Why should ME bother with your nonsense?
> >
> The MEatpuppet doesn't have to answer questions. Nor did you have to try
> to answer for her.
> > There's no point in arguing with bratty children. You're going to stick out your tongues and chant "Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!" regardless of what anyone says.
> If you thought that, you'd stop. But you can't stop because, as I've
> previously noted, you're a last-worder.

As Dennis M. Hammes called it:

"Last man standing."

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>>>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
> >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
> >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> , or
> >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
> >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
> >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
> >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
> >>>>>> before I stepped in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
> >>>>
> >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
> >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
> >>>> heart is in the right place.
> >>>
> >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
> >>
> >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
>
>
> In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
> someone else.
>
> >>>
> >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
> >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
> >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
> >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
> >>>
> >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
>
>
> Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
> never have heard of) to Mack.
>
>
> >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
> >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
> >> with them.
> >
> > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
> >
> > PP or STFU.
>
>
> See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
> of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

Quite rightly...

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:13:55 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >>>>>>>>>>> version.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> > >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> > >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> > >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> > >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
> > >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
> > >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> , or
> > >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
> > >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post".. So,
> > >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
> > >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
> > >>>>>> before I stepped in.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
> > >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
> > >>>>>> Dalton.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
> > >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
> > >>>> heart is in the right place.
> > >>>
> > >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
> > >>
> > >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
> >
> >
> > In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
> > someone else.
> >
> > >>>
> > >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
> > >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
> > >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
> > >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
> > >>>
> > >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
> >
> >
> > Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
> > never have heard of) to Mack.
> >
> >
> > >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
> > >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
> > >> with them.
> > >
> > > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
> > >
> > > PP or STFU.
> >
> >
> > See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
> > of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.
> Quite rightly...

Good afternoon, agreed.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

We never did get an answer to that question... ha ha.

General-Zod wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:

>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>> >> version.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>> >>
>> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>> >>
>> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>> (mystic page)
>> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>> Tikaram)
>> >
>> >
>> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

> We never did get an answer to that question... ha ha.

Notice Pendragon's elaborate deflection attempts.

🙂

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:44:35 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 10:43 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:26:25 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-26 11:15 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-4,
> >>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-10-26 4:32 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: > George J. Dance wrote: >
> >>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote: >> > On Tuesday, 18 October
> >>>>> 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote: >> >> >> Here is Sarah
> >>>>> McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s >> >> Hallelujah. Even though
> >>>>> many people have covered it, >> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing
> >>>>> it---she does a beautiful >> >> version. >> >> >> >>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI >> >> >> >> (And I hope
> >>>>> I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.) >> >> >> >> Also the
> >>>>> song is only partly religious. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Dalton
> >>>>> dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) >> >>
> >>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns >>
> >>>>> (mystic page) >> >> "And I know the young man with a century's
> >>>>> face/A philosopher king >> - he >> >> will try to amaze/With
> >>>>> examples of love and examples of hate" (T. >> Tikaram) >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it? > >> *What* do
> >>>>> you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The >> song?
> >>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident..
> >>>>> It's possible that the MEatpuppet replied to the wrong person's post
> >>>>> by accident; but not very likely that she'd have made the same
> >>>>> mistake twice in a row. Still, if the Monkeys had claimed that's what
> >>>>> happened, either in a post from her or an alleged "email" from her to
> >>>>> MMP, then we could accept it, drop it, and move on.
> >>>>> Instead, they're stuck defending this cockamamie story that somehow
> >>>>> all the backthread got scrambled by this glitch in the internet.
> >>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> >>>
> >>>> Pay attention, George.
> >>>
> >>>> Here is what I said:
> >>>
> >>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual),
> >>>
> >>> Definitely not the correct answer.
> >> Agreed. Neither Dalton's post nor the MEatpuppet's were made on NovaBBS,
> >> nor am I reading them there.
> >
> > But Stink's probably was.
> >
> > And ME was responding to Stink.
> >
> According to the headers, you responded to Zod yourself the same day in
> the same thread. No sign of a "glitch".
> >> I have looked on narkive and of course
> >> Thunderbird, as well as Google, and they all show the MEatpuppet
> >> replying to Dr. Dalton. So, while it's possible (at least one chance in
> >> a million) that usenet could have mixed up the headers, there's no
> >
> > My reason for thinking it is because Nova BS often does that to me.
> >
> I've never heard of or seen it happening to anyone, including you.
> >>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of
> >>>> Dalton's post
> >>>
> >>> Possibly >
> >> No, that is impossible. The MEatpuppet couldn't have been responding to
> >> Zod's statement in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post, because Zod's
> >> statement wasn't in the backthread of Dr. Dalton's post.
> >
> > It's in the thread.
> >
> It is not "within the body of Dalton's post", as you falsely claimed.
> There was zero backthread in Dr. Dalton's post. None. Nada. Zilch.
> >> Just saying Zod's post is not in the backthread isn't conclusive. What
> >> is conclusive is the fact that Zod's post couldn't have been in the
> >> backthread. That's Dr. Dalton's post, the one to which the MEatpuppet
> >> replied (twice), didn't have any backthread: he made the original post
> >> in the thread.
> >>
> >> So that scenario is patently false; we don't even have to consider it.
> >
> > Stink's post preceded ME's in the thread. That is all that is required for her to have responded to it.
> But there's no evidence - just your and your MEatpuppet's claims - that
> she did respond to it, or that she even saw it.

1) ME's statement only makes sense in response to Stink's post.
2) ME has confirmed that she was responding to Stink.

Case closed.

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>>>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
> >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
> >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> , or
> >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
> >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
> >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
> >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
> >>>>>> before I stepped in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
> >>>>>> Dalton.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
> >>>>
> >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
> >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
> >>>> heart is in the right place.
> >>>
> >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
> >>
> >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
>
>
> In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
> someone else.
>
> >>>
> >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
> >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
> >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
> >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
> >>>
> >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
>
>
> Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
> never have heard of) to Mack.

No, George. Read that passage carefully. "Our trolls" refers to *you* and Will.

When I first came to AAPC, you and Will welcomed me here. This predisposed me to accepting you as friends -- and to believe *your* story that PJR and his alt.kooks friends were a gang of Usenet "thugs" who often took their fights into the real world (contacting their opponents' employers, etc.).

That is why I said that "(you) had me fooled, and supporting them, for a number of years."

Nothing in my statement even hints that Mack was a "plant."

> >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
> >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
> >> with them.
> >
> > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
> >
> > PP or STFU.
>
>
> See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
> of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

I did not blame him, George.

I explained to him why ME is wary of accepting newcomers to the group -- especially when they are known to participate in other groups where you and/or Will are members.

I also did not accuse him of having been fooled by you and Will. I told him that *I* had been fooled by you, and cautioned him against being led down that same path.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> On 2022-10-27 12:39 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:21:24 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>>> On 2022-10-26 11:38 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2022-10-26 7:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:51:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>> >>>>>>>>>>> version.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>> >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>> >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>> >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>> >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
>> >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
>> >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
>> >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> , or
>> >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
>> >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
>> >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
>> >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
>> >>>>>> before I stepped in.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
>> >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
>> >>>>>> Dalton.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
>> >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
>> >>>> heart is in the right place.
>> >>>
>> >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
>> >>
>> >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
>>
>>
>> In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
>> someone else.
>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
>> >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
>> >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
>> >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
>> >>>
>> >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
>>
>>
>> Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
>> never have heard of) to Mack.

> No, George. Read that passage carefully. "Our trolls" refers to *you* and Will.

> When I first came to AAPC, you and Will welcomed me here. This predisposed me to accepting you as friends -- and to believe *your* story that PJR and his alt.kooks friends were a gang of Usenet "thugs" who often took their fights into the real world (contacting their opponents' employers, etc.).

> That is why I said that "(you) had me fooled, and supporting them, for a number of years."

> Nothing in my statement even hints that Mack was a "plant."

>> >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
>> >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
>> >> with them.
>> >
>> > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
>> >
>> > PP or STFU.
>>
>>
>> See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
>> of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

> I did not blame him, George.

> I explained to him why ME is wary of accepting newcomers to the group -- especially when they are known to participate in other groups where you and/or Will are members.

> I also did not accuse him of having been fooled by you and Will. I told him that *I* had been fooled by you, and cautioned him against being led down that same path.

Even the forgers and identity thieving trolls fool you, Pendragon.

🙂

W-Dockery wrote:

> Michael Pendragon wrote:

>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-10-27 3:04 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:51 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>>> >>>>>>>>> (mystic page)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Tikaram)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>>> >>>>>>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
>>> >>>>>>>> ME made a mistake (twice) and replied to David Dalton by accident.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Just goes to show that we all make mistakes from time-to-time.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 1) NovaBS might have posted the wrong headers (as per usual)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The problem with that "scenario" of yours is that the same "wrong
>>> >>>>>> headers" also appear on Google Groups, and Thunderbird, and Narkive.
>>> >>>>>> you'd have to claim that usenet "posted the wrong headers" everywhere.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> , or
>>> >>>>>>> 2) ME may have responded to Stink's statement within the body of Dalton's post.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> And the problem with that "scenario" of yours, is that "Stink's"
>>> >>>>>> statement didn't appear "within the body of [Dr.] Dalton's post". So,
>>> >>>>>> according to you, usenet didn't just screw up the headers but screwed up
>>> >>>>>> all the backthread, too.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The fact is that the MEatpuppet was trolling David Dalton -- twice --
>>> >>>>>> before I stepped in.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Like I said, whichever scenario one chooses to believe, George Dance was still playing the disingenuous troll.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The only trolls evident here are (1) your MEatpuppet, trolling Dr.
>>> >>>>>> Dalton; and (2) you, trying to defend your MEatpuppet's trolling of Dr.
>>> >>>>>> Dalton.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Just as ME was calling Mack a "motherfucker" last week.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>> And just as MMP was trying to make excuses for her last week.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "ME can be a bit over-protective -- and isn't fond of newcomers who
>>> >>>> associate with the group's trolls. But she's a talented poet and her
>>> >>>> heart is in the right place.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The above was to-all-intents-and-purposes an apology for ME's unwarranted attack.
>>> >>
>>> >>> It is a 90 degree turn from telling you that she was addressing the General Stink.
>>>
>>>
>>> In both cases, it was an attempt to excuse and defend ME by blaming
>>> someone else.
>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> "Our trolls are known for being extraordinarily friendly to newcomers.
>>> >>>> They need allies and actively recruit them. They had me fooled, and
>>> >>>> supporting them, for a number of years, so I have no right to be
>>> >>>> impatient with others who follow the same path."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Uhm... George... I was referring to you and your Donkey in the above passage.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure thing; that's you spouting the "plant" theory (that you claim to
>>> never have heard of) to Mack.

>> No, George. Read that passage carefully. "Our trolls" refers to *you* and Will.

>> When I first came to AAPC, you and Will welcomed me here. This predisposed me to accepting you as friends -- and to believe *your* story that PJR and his alt.kooks friends were a gang of Usenet "thugs" who often took their fights into the real world (contacting their opponents' employers, etc.).

>> That is why I said that "(you) had me fooled, and supporting them, for a number of years."

>> Nothing in my statement even hints that Mack was a "plant."

>>> >> LIke I said; you were defending your MEatpuppet's trolling by calling
>>> >> someone else the "real trolls", and attacking Mack for "associating"
>>> >> with them.
>>> >
>>> > I haven't attacked Mack, George.
>>> >
>>> > PP or STFU.
>>>
>>>
>>> See above; you blamed him for the MEatpuppet's trolling, and accused him
>>> of being "fooled by" and "supporting" alleged trolls.

>> I did not blame him, George.

>> I explained to him why ME is wary of accepting newcomers to the group -- especially when they are known to participate in other groups where you and/or Will are members.

>> I also did not accuse him of having been fooled by you and Will. I told him that *I* had been fooled by you, and cautioned him against being led down that same path.

> Even the forgers and identity thieving trolls fool you, Pendragon.

>

Ha ha.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

That's ME, clueless as ever.

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

Since Pendragon is still making false claims about this, here's a link to the view Nova BBS offers:

https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=176838&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#176838

HTH and HAND.

ME wrote:

> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>> version.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>
>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>
>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>
>> --
>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)

> This has not worked out well for you, has it?

Pendragon, this is posted from Nova BBS, and as you can see, you're mistaken.

Link:

https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=176838&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#176838

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

Good example of a thread where Pen tries his best to defend his trollish friend, although all evidence is against the sleazy little mother fucker....

General-Zod wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:

>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>>
>> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>> >> version.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>> >>
>> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>> >>
>> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
>> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>> (mystic page)
>> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
>> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>> Tikaram)
>> >
>> >
>> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

> Good example of a thread where Pen tries his best to defend his trollish friend, although all evidence is against the sleazy little mother fucker....

Exactly, Pendragon just keeps slinging his monkey shit, hoping some of it will stick.

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-22 2:43 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > Rachel wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> >>> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> >>> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote: >Here is Sarah McLachlan
> >>> performing Leonard Cohen’s >Hallelujah. Even though many people have
> >>> covered it, >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a
> >>> beautiful >version. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI >
> >>> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.) > >Also the
> >>> song is only partly religious. >
> >>> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> >>> >-- >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> >>> page) >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>> (mystic page) >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A
> >>> philosopher king - he >will try to amaze/With examples of love and
> >>> examples of hate" (T. Tikaram) >
> >>> --
> >>> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> >>> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> >>> AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> >>> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b How can we serve those we
> >>> are trying to crush? -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com
> >
> >> I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this one
> >> was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> >
> >> What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> >
> > Hello there, Rachel.
> >
> > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect Senetto
> > will think he's a "plant".
> >
>
> David Dalton is the husband of Newfoundland poet Mary Dalton. He's been
> posting to aapc since 2003, and to RAP since 1994. He doesn't post much,
> usually (IME) to announce new work from his wife, but occasionally about
> other interests. I'd expect Senetto to be unaware of any of that.

Exactly...!