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* Ping: Robert and MichaelEdward Rochester Esq.
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||+- Re: Ping: Robert and MichaelGeneral-Zod
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|+* Re: Ping: Robert and MichaelRobert Burrows
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Re: Ping: Robert and Michael

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Subject: Re: Ping: Robert and Michael
From: hieronym...@gmail.com (Spam-I-Am)
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 by: Spam-I-Am - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:46 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:44:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:27:26 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:22:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:14:23 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:01:09 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:02:44 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:58:49 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:46:11 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:35:50 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 1:38:21 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> On 2022-11-21 5:13 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:50:07 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:44:34 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >>> "Fecal smearing is a sign of (______) abuse in children...
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> Plonk.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > I deserved that plonking, thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > George brings out the plonker in me...
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > https://youtu.be/GNgz2dA0n88
> > > > > > > >> > > >> Why are you trying to blame me for your interest in "fecal smearing,"
> > > > > > > >> > > >> Robert?
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > He’s comparing
> > > > > > > >> > > Robert is on the monkey team, so shit slinging is required of him.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > > >> > And Will Dockery is xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > xxxxx xxxxxxxxxx x xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Robert Burrows'?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 🙂
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where's the lie
> > > > > > > What you wrote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > Oh, poo to you two too!
> > > > > That's probably just your upper lip you smell, Corey.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, learn to read.
> > > I did.
> > Sure you did, bubba, sure you did.
> For once we agree.
>
> 🙂

Sure we do, bubba, sure we do.

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:13 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:22:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:14:23 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:01:09 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:02:44 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:58:49 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:46:11 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:35:50 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 1:38:21 PM UTC-5, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> On 2022-11-21 5:13 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:50:07 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:44:34 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > > > >> > > >> >>> "Fecal smearing is a sign of (______) abuse in children...
> > > > > >> > > >> >> Plonk.
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> > I deserved that plonking, thanks.
> > > > > >> > > >> > George brings out the plonker in me...
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> > https://youtu.be/GNgz2dA0n88
> > > > > >> > > >> Why are you trying to blame me for your interest in "fecal smearing,"
> > > > > >> > > >> Robert?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > He’s comparing
> > > > > >> > > Robert is on the monkey team, so shit slinging is required of him.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >> > And Will Dockery is xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > > > xxxxx xxxxxxxxxx x xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Robert Burrows'?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 🙂
> > > > >
> > > > > > Where's the lie
> > > > > What you wrote.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > Oh, poo to you two too!
> > > That's probably just your upper lip you smell, Corey.
> > >
> >
> > Oh, learn to read.
> I did.

The proof of your illiteracy is evidenced in your response: had you learned to read *and write,* you would have said "I have."

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:00 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > >>>> George Dance:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > >>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > >>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > >>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > >>>
> > >>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > >>>
> > >>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > >>>
> > >>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > >> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > >
> > > Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > >
> > > The archives are easily searchable.
> > >
> > > Here's the quote:
> > >
> > > Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > instead?
> > > Here's the link:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > >
> > I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > to one.
> > > Why do you lie so much, George?
> > why do you project so much, Michael?
> From the same thread:
>
> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance

Who of our era didn't?

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > >>>> George Dance:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > >>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > >>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > >>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > >> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > > >
> > > > Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > > >
> > > > The archives are easily searchable.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the quote:
> > > >
> > > > Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > > Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > > Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > > poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > > instead?
> > > > Here's the link:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > > >
> > > I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > > to one.
> > > > Why do you lie so much, George?
> > > why do you project so much, Michael?
> > From the same thread:
> >
> > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> Who of our era didn't?

I never waited in bed with my pajama pants pulled down. Did you?

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:27:31 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > >>>> George Dance:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > > >>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > > >>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > > >>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > > >> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > > > >
> > > > > The archives are easily searchable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the quote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > > > Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > > > Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > > > poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > > > instead?
> > > > > Here's the link:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > > > >
> > > > I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > > > to one.
> > > > > Why do you lie so much, George?
> > > > why do you project so much, Michael?
> > > From the same thread:
> > >
> > > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > Who of our era didn't?
> I never waited in bed with my pajama pants pulled down. Did you?

"Don't mistake the speaker in the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers

HTH and HAND.

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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:27:31 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > >>>> George Dance:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > > > >>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > > > >>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > > > >>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > > > >> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The archives are easily searchable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's the quote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > > > > Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > > > > Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > > > > poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > > > > instead?
> > > > > > Here's the link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > > > > >
> > > > > I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > > > > to one.
> > > > > > Why do you lie so much, George?
> > > > > why do you project so much, Michael?
> > > > From the same thread:
> > > >
> > > > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > > Who of our era didn't?
> > I never waited in bed with my pajama pants pulled down. Did you?
> "Don't mistake the speaker in the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers

"The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:27:31 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > > On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> > > > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > > >> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > >>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>> > > > > >>>> George Dance:
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>> > > > > >>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>> > > > > >>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>> > > > > >>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>> > > > > >> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Don't be such a dunce, George.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The archives are easily searchable.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Here's the quote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>> > > > > > Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>> > > > > > Face and pajama bottoms down
>> > > > > > Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> > > > > As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>> > > > > poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>> > > > > instead?
>> > > > > > Here's the link:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>> > > > > to one.
>> > > > > > Why do you lie so much, George?
>> > > > > why do you project so much, Michael?
>> > > > From the same thread:
>> > > >
>> > > > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
>> > > > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>> > > Who of our era didn't?
>> > I never waited in bed with my pajama pants pulled down. Did you?
>> "Don't mistake the speaker in the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers

> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance

Again, who from our era didn't experience corporal punishment in some form?

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:01 UTC

On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> George Dance:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>>>
>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
>>>
>>> The archives are easily searchable.
>>>
>>> Here's the quote:
>>>
>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>> instead?
>>> Here's the link:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>>>
>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>> to one.
>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
>> why do you project so much, Michael?
>
> From the same thread:
>
> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance

Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
story was true.

Were you beaten by your father as a child?

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 by: Edward Rochester Esq - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:08 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>
> >>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>
> >>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the quote:
> >>>
> >>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >> instead?
> >>> Here's the link:
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>
> >> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >> to one.
> >>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >
> > From the same thread:
> >
> > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> story was true.
>
> Were you beaten by your father as a child?

and you were beaten in the political arena as well....answers much on your holier than thou attitude.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:17 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:13:59 AM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:07:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:02:31 AM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:01:09 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:02:44 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:58:49 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:46:11 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:35:50 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 1:38:21 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> On 2022-11-21 5:13 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:50:07 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:44:34 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >>> "Fecal smearing is a sign of (______) abuse in children...
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> Plonk.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >> > I deserved that plonking, thanks.
> > > > > > >> > > >> > George brings out the plonker in me...
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >> > https://youtu.be/GNgz2dA0n88
> > > > > > >> > > >> Why are you trying to blame me for your interest in "fecal smearing,"
> > > > > > >> > > >> Robert?
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > He’s comparing
> > > > > > >> > > Robert is on the monkey team, so shit slinging is required of him.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > >> > And Will Dockery is xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > > > > xxxxx xxxxxxxxxx x xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Robert Burrows'?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 🙂
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where's the lie
> > > > > > What you wrote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > Oh, poo to you two too!
> > > > That's probably just your upper lip you smell, Corey.
> > > Or perhaps he's downwind
> > Obsess over Zod much, Pendragon?
> If Corey's downwind of him, so am I.
>
> Like I said, that stench really travels.

Well Hell, here I thought that was just the stench of shit from the local farms on the wind!

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:31 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>
> >>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>
> >>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the quote:
> >>>
> >>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >> instead?
> >>> Here's the link:
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>
> >> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >> to one.
> >>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >
> > From the same thread:
> >
> > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> story was true.
>
> Were you beaten by your father as a child?

Who in our era wasn't?

Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved.

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:41 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>
> >>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>
> >>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the quote:
> >>>
> >>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >> instead?
> >>> Here's the link:
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>
> >> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >> to one.
> >>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >
> > From the same thread:
> >
> > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> story was true.
>
> Were you beaten by your father as a child?

Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point. The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.

IMO, such conditioning would have proved far more harmful to your mental health than a straight-forward beating for having done something wrong.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:29 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>
> >>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>
> >>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the quote:
> >>>
> >>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >> instead?
> >>> Here's the link:
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>
> >> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >> to one.
> >>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >
> > From the same thread:
> >
> > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> story was true.
>
> Were you beaten by your father as a child?

All kidding aside, that sucks, and I'm sorry you had to experience that.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 22:59 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 4:29:54 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>
> > Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > story was true.
> >
> > Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> All kidding aside, that sucks, and I'm sorry you had to experience that.

Agreed.

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 by: ME - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 03:04 UTC

On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 at 21:30:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > >>>>>> George Dance:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > >>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > >>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > >>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > >>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > >>>
> > >>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > >>>
> > >>> The archives are easily searchable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's the quote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > >>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > >>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> > >>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > >> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > >> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > >> instead?
> > >>> Here's the link:
> > >>>
> > >>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > >>>
> > >> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > >> to one.
> > >>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> > >> why do you project so much, Michael?
> > >
> > > From the same thread:
> > >
> > > "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > story was true.
> >
> > Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> Who in our era wasn't?
>
> Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved

You are trying to equate what dance described as corporal punishment?
You’re as fucking sick as he is, then.

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 by: George J. Dance - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 03:43 UTC

On 2022-11-22 4:29 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> George Dance:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>>>> instead?
>>>>> Here's the link:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>>>> to one.
>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
>>>
>>> From the same thread:
>>>
>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
>> story was true.
>>
>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
>
> All kidding aside, that sucks, and I'm sorry you had to experience that.

IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.

You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
as a child?

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 by: George J. Dance - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 03:59 UTC

On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> George Dance:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>>>> instead?
>>>>> Here's the link:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>>>> to one.
>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
>>>
>>> From the same thread:
>>>
>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
>> story was true.
>>
>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
>
> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.

Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
you mind answering the question?

> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.

The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
that I'd said it had happened to me.

All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
I'll ask you again:

Were you beaten by your father as a child?

> IMO, such conditioning would have proved far more harmful to your mental health than a straight-forward beating for having done something wrong.

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 by: George J. Dance - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:08 UTC

On 2022-11-22 10:04 p.m., ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 at 21:30:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the quote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>>>>> instead?
>>>>>> Here's the link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>>>>> to one.
>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
>>>>
>>>> From the same thread:
>>>>
>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
>>> story was true.
>>>
>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
>> Who in our era wasn't?
>>
>> Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved
>
> You are trying to equate what dance described as corporal punishment?
>

Actually, STeve, what I described happening to me was corporal
punishment: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own
experience...and most of the boys (in my family) were subject to
corporal punishment."

> You’re as fucking sick as he is, then.

You think it's sick to "equate" corporal punishment with corporal
punishment? I swear, sometimes you're as stupid as a Senetto.

I swear

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 by: jdcha...@gmail.com - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:25 UTC

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 8:40:08 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > George Dance:
> >
> > Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > > distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > > pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > > having to actually write anything.
> >
> > This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>
> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>
> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>
> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him off.

That reminds me of when I used to slip into young Jordy's room and give him a little nightcap at bedtime. He was such a cute kid.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:00 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's the quote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >>>> instead?
> >>>>> Here's the link:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>>>
> >>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >>>> to one.
> >>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >>>
> >>> From the same thread:
> >>>
> >>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> >>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> >> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> >> story was true.
> >>
> >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >
> > Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
> you mind answering the question?
> > The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
> that I'd said it had happened to me.
>
> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
> I'll ask you again:
> Were you beaten by your father as a child?

That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."

The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.

But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.

Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:49 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:43:21 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 4:29 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's the quote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >>>> instead?
> >>>>> Here's the link:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>>>
> >>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >>>> to one.
> >>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >>>
> >>> From the same thread:
> >>>
> >>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> >>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> >> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> >> story was true.
> >>
> >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >
> > All kidding aside, that sucks, and I'm sorry you had to experience that.
> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
>
> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
> as a child?

Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
but never "beat".

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Robert Burrows wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
>>
>> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
>> as a child?

> Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
> but never "beat".

0n Google search, the top definition of "paddled" is "to beat..."

https://www.google.com/search?q=paddled&oq=paddled&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i131i433i512j0i512l2j46i10i512j0i512l4.24292j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:12 UTC

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:08:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 10:04 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 at 21:30:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's the quote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >>>>> instead?
> >>>>>> Here's the link:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >>>>> to one.
> >>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >>>>
> >>>> From the same thread:
> >>>>
> >>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> >>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> >>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> >>> story was true.
> >>>
> >>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >> Who in our era wasn't?
> >>
> >> Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved
> >
> > You are trying to equate what dance described as corporal punishment?
> >
> Actually, STeve, what I described happening to me was corporal
> punishment: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own
> experience...and most of the boys (in my family) were subject to
> corporal punishment."
> > You’re as fucking sick as he is, then.
> You think it's sick to "equate" corporal punishment with corporal
> punishment? I swear, sometimes you're as stupid as a Senetto.

The Assistant Principal at our school was the one who paddled the boys who were judged to deserve this form of punishment, and he had more than one paddle, one had holes drilled in it.

I think that the paddles were made by the wood shop instructor.

>
>
>
> I swear

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On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:12:06 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:08:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-22 10:04 p.m., ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 at 21:30:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > >>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > >>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here's the quote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > >>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > >>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> > >>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > >>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > >>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > >>>>> instead?
> > >>>>>> Here's the link:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > >>>>> to one.
> > >>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> > >>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> From the same thread:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > >>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > >>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > >>> story was true.
> > >>>
> > >>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > >> Who in our era wasn't?
> > >>
> > >> Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved
> > >
> > > You are trying to equate what dance described as corporal punishment?
> > >
> > Actually, STeve, what I described happening to me was corporal
> > punishment: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own
> > experience...and most of the boys (in my family) were subject to
> > corporal punishment."
> > > You’re as fucking sick as he is, then.
> > You think it's sick to "equate" corporal punishment with corporal
> > punishment? I swear, sometimes you're as stupid as a Senetto.
> The Assistant Principal at our school was the one who paddled the boys who were judged to deserve this form of punishment, and he had more than one paddle, one had holes drilled in it.
>
> I think that the paddles were made by the wood shop instructor.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I swear

Our Vice Principal was Mr. Hand.
Mr. Hand had a big hand. That’s
all I remember about Mr. Hand.
It was a very long time ago.

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:29 UTC

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:15:45 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:12:06 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:08:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-11-22 10:04 p.m., ME wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 at 21:30:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > > >>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo....@aol.com wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > >>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Here's the quote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > >>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > >>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > >>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > >>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > > >>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > > >>>>> instead?
> > > >>>>>> Here's the link:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > > >>>>> to one.
> > > >>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> > > >>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> From the same thread:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > >>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > > >>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > > >>> story was true.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > > >> Who in our era wasn't?
> > > >>
> > > >> Even the teachers in our schools whipped children who misbehaved
> > > >
> > > > You are trying to equate what dance described as corporal punishment?
> > > >
> > > Actually, STeve, what I described happening to me was corporal
> > > punishment: "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own
> > > experience...and most of the boys (in my family) were subject to
> > > corporal punishment."
> > > > You’re as fucking sick as he is, then.
> > > You think it's sick to "equate" corporal punishment with corporal
> > > punishment? I swear, sometimes you're as stupid as a Senetto.
> > The Assistant Principal at our school was the one who paddled the boys who were judged to deserve this form of punishment, and he had more than one paddle, one had holes drilled in it.
> >
> > I think that the paddles were made by the wood shop instructor.
>
> > > I swear
> Our Vice Principal was Mr. Hand.
> Mr. Hand had a big hand. That’s
> all I remember about Mr. Hand.
> It was a very long time ago.

Our Principal at Edgewood Elementary was Mr. Hancock.

You can probably imagine the jokes about his name.

I heard Mr. Hancock had some scary paddles but I never did anything bad enough to get sent to the "Office".

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