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* The Ladder of St. AugustineMack A. Damia
+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineMichael Pendragon
|+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineNancyGene
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|`* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineMack A. Damia
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+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineWill Dockery
+- Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineWill Dockery
+- Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineWill Dockery
+- Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineWill Dockery
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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 19:32 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 6:14:52 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>
>> > > "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> > > - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> > >
>> > > "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> > > Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> > > But they, while their companions slept,
>> > > Were toiling upward in the night."
>> > Hi Mack.
>> >

>> Also, please don't use the stanzas that other sites have featured. Why did you choose this particular snippet of Longfellow's poem? You have not supplied anything new for us to consider, and you haven't given your opinion on why we should ponder this quote today.
>> https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/manly-lessons/manvotional-ladder-st-augustine/?utm_content=buffer9767a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=pinterest&utm_campaign=buffer
>> https://www.passiton.com/inspirational-quotes/3758-the-heights-by-great-men-reached-and-kept-were
>> https://www.amazon.com/Henry-Longfellow-heights-reached-attained/dp/B07XT9Y38W
>> https://quotes.pub/q/the-heights-by-great-men-reached-and-kept-were-not-attained--113995
>> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/861032022516458535/
>> https://www.redbubble.com/i/poster/Inspirational-motivational-affirmation-The-heights-by-great-men-reached-and-kept-by-Artonmytee/86533597.LVTDI

> Nice links....

Agreed.

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 03:58 UTC

Mack A. Damia wrote:

>
> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> But they, while their companions slept,
> Were toiling upward in the night."

Hello there Mack, happy Thanksgiving.

πŸ™‚

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 05:30 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> > >>
>> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
>> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>> > >
>> > >Hi Mack.
>> > >
>> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
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>> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
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>> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers..

> No, you’re simply choosing to see him as one. Change your mind. I dare you.

Nice try, anyhow.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:34 UTC

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >
> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> >

I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.

I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:12 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>
>> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
>> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
>> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
>> >

> I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.

> I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.

Coco = Pendragon.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:42 UTC

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 4:42:41 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 10:52:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:09:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On 2022-11-15 4:04 p.m., Zod wrote:
> > >> >> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:44:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> >>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:13 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> He hasn't acclimated well to a poetry environment.
> > >> >>>>>>> In your opinion, I think Mack is doing fine.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Welcome to Team Donkey, Mack!
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Don't be so dishonest, Michael. Your Team Monkey has been calling Mack a
> > >> >>>>> "plant" for "Team Donkey" since the first time he showed up here.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> I never said that Mack wasn't suspected of being a plant, George.
> > >> >>> Which, as far as I know, bullshit.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yep...
> > >>
> > >> > Of course it was. But, if Michael's now "officially" assigned him to
> > >> > "Team Donkey", then I guess TD has to return the favor by "officially"
> > >> > assigning someone to Team Monkey. And since there's a quorum of TD here:
> > >>
> > >> > I nominate Robert Burrows / Bobby Burro.
> > >>
> > >> > I move to call the question. Vote Yea or Nay.
> > >>
> > >> > Note that we're using Pendragon rules: "Those who fail to cast their
> > >> > vote, or to voice any objections they might have, have approved it by
> > >> > default."
> > >> Robert Burrows could be seen as being a member of Corey's "team"?
> >
> > > I can’t have my own team if, as George asserts, I am a fan of another team,
> > > and there is no precedence for how the game might proceed with more than
> > > two teams on the field, so the simple answer to your question is obviously no.
> > Okay, glad we settled that.
> Ha ha... yep.

Good morning, agreed.

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 by: Zod - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:35 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:04:23 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi Mack.
> >> > >
> >> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >> > >
> >> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >> > trouble makers.
> >> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers..
>
> > No, you’re simply choosing to see him as one. Change your mind. I dare you.
>
> Nice try, anyhow.

Yep...

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:58 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:04:23 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Hi Mack.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > >> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > >> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > >> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > >> > trouble makers.
> > >> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers..
> >
> > > No, you’re simply choosing to see him as one. Change your mind. I dare you.
> >
> > Nice try, anyhow.
> Yep...

How profound!

Nothing like clicking on a post in a poetry discussion to find such stimulating commentary as "Yep...".

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:04:23 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> > >> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> > >> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> > >> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> > >> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> > >> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
>> > >> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Hi Mack.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>> > >> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>> > >> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>> > >> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>> > >> > trouble makers.
>> > >> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers..
>> >
>> > > No, you’re simply choosing to see him as one. Change your mind. I dare you.
>> >
>> > Nice try, anyhow.
>> Yep...

> How profound!

> Nothing like clicking on a post in a poetry discussion to find such stimulating commentary as "Yep...".

"Skip and ignore."

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 21:35 UTC

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:16:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-16 7:25 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:14:32 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:47:17 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:44:04 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 4:04 p.m., Zod wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:44:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:13 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> He hasn't acclimated well to a poetry environment.
> >>>>>>>>>> In your opinion, I think Mack is doing fine.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Welcome to Team Donkey, Mack!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Don't be so dishonest, Michael. Your Team Monkey has been calling Mack a
> >>>>>>>> "plant" for "Team Donkey" since the first time he showed up here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I never said that Mack wasn't suspected of being a plant, George.
> >>>>>> Which, as far as I know, bullshit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep...
> >>>> Of course it was. But, if Michael's now "officially" assigned him to
> >>>> "Team Donkey", then I guess TD has to return the favor by "officially"
> >>>> assigning someone to Team Monkey. And since there's a quorum of TD here:
> >>>>
> >>>> I nominate Robert Burrows / Bobby Burro.
> >>>>
> >>>> I move to call the question. Vote Yea or Nay.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that we're using Pendragon rules: "Those who fail to cast their
> >>>> vote, or to voice any objections they might have, have approved it by
> >>>> default."
> >>> A paranoid mind, teeming with imaginary teams.
> >> Yes, Pendragon came up with the team concept, by the way.
> >
> > Bullshit.
> > George has been obsessed with various "teams" here for over twenty years. Check the archives.
> Robert, I only got to aapc in 2007. Of course, if you weren't around in
> those days, you wouldn't know that.

Robert was known as "Adam Lynn" bakl in those days.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:02 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:35:35 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:16:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-16 7:25 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:14:32 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:47:17 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:44:04 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-11-15 4:04 p.m., Zod wrote:
> > >>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:44:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:13 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He hasn't acclimated well to a poetry environment.
> > >>>>>>>>>> In your opinion, I think Mack is doing fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Welcome to Team Donkey, Mack!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Don't be so dishonest, Michael. Your Team Monkey has been calling Mack a
> > >>>>>>>> "plant" for "Team Donkey" since the first time he showed up here.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I never said that Mack wasn't suspected of being a plant, George.
> > >>>>>> Which, as far as I know, bullshit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yep...
> > >>>> Of course it was. But, if Michael's now "officially" assigned him to
> > >>>> "Team Donkey", then I guess TD has to return the favor by "officially"
> > >>>> assigning someone to Team Monkey. And since there's a quorum of TD here:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I nominate Robert Burrows / Bobby Burro.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I move to call the question. Vote Yea or Nay.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Note that we're using Pendragon rules: "Those who fail to cast their
> > >>>> vote, or to voice any objections they might have, have approved it by
> > >>>> default."
> > >>> A paranoid mind, teeming with imaginary teams.
> > >> Yes, Pendragon came up with the team concept, by the way.
> > >
> > > Bullshit.
> > > George has been obsessed with various "teams" here for over twenty years. Check the archives.
> > Robert, I only got to aapc in 2007. Of course, if you weren't around in
> > those days, you wouldn't know that.
> Robert was known as "Adam Lynn" back in those days.
Typo corrected ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh, I made a typo and NancyGene is thrilled.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:11 UTC

On 2022-11-29 4:35 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:16:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-16 7:25 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:14:32 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:47:17 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:44:04 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 4:04 p.m., Zod wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:44:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:13 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He hasn't acclimated well to a poetry environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In your opinion, I think Mack is doing fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to Team Donkey, Mack!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't be so dishonest, Michael. Your Team Monkey has been calling Mack a
>>>>>>>>>> "plant" for "Team Donkey" since the first time he showed up here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I never said that Mack wasn't suspected of being a plant, George.
>>>>>>>> Which, as far as I know, bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep...
>>>>>> Of course it was. But, if Michael's now "officially" assigned him to
>>>>>> "Team Donkey", then I guess TD has to return the favor by "officially"
>>>>>> assigning someone to Team Monkey. And since there's a quorum of TD here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I nominate Robert Burrows / Bobby Burro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I move to call the question. Vote Yea or Nay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that we're using Pendragon rules: "Those who fail to cast their
>>>>>> vote, or to voice any objections they might have, have approved it by
>>>>>> default."
>>>>> A paranoid mind, teeming with imaginary teams.
>>>> Yes, Pendragon came up with the team concept, by the way.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>> George has been obsessed with various "teams" here for over twenty years. Check the archives.
>> Robert, I only got to aapc in 2007. Of course, if you weren't around in
>> those days, you wouldn't know that.
>
> Robert was known as "Adam Lynn" ba[ck] in those days.

Robert showed up in 2012 and said he was "adam lynn". That's all I know
about that.

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-29 4:35 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:16:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-16 7:25 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:14:32 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:47:17 AM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:44:04 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-11-15 4:04 p.m., Zod wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:44:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:13 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He hasn't acclimated well to a poetry environment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In your opinion, I think Mack is doing fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to Team Donkey, Mack!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Don't be so dishonest, Michael. Your Team Monkey has been calling Mack a
> >>>>>>>>>> "plant" for "Team Donkey" since the first time he showed up here.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I never said that Mack wasn't suspected of being a plant, George.
> >>>>>>>> Which, as far as I know, bullshit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep...
> >>>>>> Of course it was. But, if Michael's now "officially" assigned him to
> >>>>>> "Team Donkey", then I guess TD has to return the favor by "officially"
> >>>>>> assigning someone to Team Monkey. And since there's a quorum of TD here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I nominate Robert Burrows / Bobby Burro.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I move to call the question. Vote Yea or Nay.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note that we're using Pendragon rules: "Those who fail to cast their
> >>>>>> vote, or to voice any objections they might have, have approved it by
> >>>>>> default."
> >>>>> A paranoid mind, teeming with imaginary teams.
> >>>> Yes, Pendragon came up with the team concept, by the way.
> >>>
> >>> Bullshit.
> >>> George has been obsessed with various "teams" here for over twenty years. Check the archives.
> >> Robert, I only got to aapc in 2007. Of course, if you weren't around in
> >> those days, you wouldn't know that.
> >
> > Robert was known as "Adam Lynn" ba[ck] in those days.
>
> Robert showed up in 2012 and said he was "adam lynn". That's all I know
> about that.

That's about it, really.

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >
> >> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> >> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> >> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> >> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> >> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> >> >
>
> > I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.
>
> > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> Coco = Pendragon.

Ha ha....

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 by: ME - Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:55 UTC

On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >
> >> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> >> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> >> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> >> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> >> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> >> >
>
> > I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.
>
> > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> Coco = Pendragon.

will = brillo head.

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 30 Nov 2022 02:05 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >
> > >> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> > >> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > >> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> > >> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> > >> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> > >> >
> >
> > > I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.
> >
> > > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> > Coco = Pendragon.
> will = brillo head.

Very observant of you;

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161040559269363&substory_index=0&id=620409362&mibextid=Nif5oz

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 by: ME - Wed, 30 Nov 2022 02:43 UTC

On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 21:05:47 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > > >> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> > > >> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > > >> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> > > >> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> > > >> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> > > >> >
> > >
> > > > I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.
> > >
> > > > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> > > Coco = Pendragon.
> > will = brillo head.
> Very observant of you;
>
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161040559269363&substory_index=0&id=620409362&mibexti

Eeeeeeee gross…

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 30 Nov 2022 03:07 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:43:37 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 21:05:47 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:36:12 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >> On 2022-11-16 2:26 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > Will Dockery, General Zod and George J Dance don't want people seeing this from the archive, where Karen said that they were also part of the problem:
> > > > >> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > > > >> Oh, no! Not the thread where Michael Monkey got his name (from Karen's
> > > > >> rhyme)! We can't have anyone see that!
> > > > >> > Get burying, deflecting and misrepresenting whippin' boys, you can't let people see the truth...
> > > > >> >
> > > >
> > > > > I have no need to bury Karen's poem, George.
> > > >
> > > > > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> > > > Coco = Pendragon.
> > > will = brillo head.
> > Very observant of you;
> >
> > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161040559269363&substory_index=0&id=620409362&mibexti
> Eeeeeeee gross…

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 by: Zod - Wed, 30 Nov 2022 22:16 UTC

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:05:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> > > Coco = Pendragon.
> > will = brillo head.
> Very observant of you;
>
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161040559269363&substory_index=0&id=620409362&mibextid=Nif5oz
>
> πŸ™‚

Cool cat, my ole pal Doc....

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:29 UTC

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 5:16:04 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:05:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 18:52:21 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > > > I have chosen a sockmonkey as my avatar -- it's perfectly acceptable for Karen (or anyone else) to refer to "Coco" as a monkey.
> > > > Coco = Pendragon.
> > > will = brillo head.
> > Very observant of you;
> >
> > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161040559269363&substory_index=0&id=620409362&mibextid=Nif5oz
> >
> > πŸ™‚
> Cool cat, my ole pal Doc....

Thanks, my friend.

:)

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