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Subject: Re: Poets of Revolt aka Free-Versers / Strange Bedfellows
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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 2 Oct 2022 07:27 UTC

On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 7:25:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 1:59:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday November 2, 2021 at 6:50:37 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > On Tuesday November 2 2021 at 12:30:19 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday November 1, 2021 at 3:59:12 AM UTC-4, Victor Hugo III wrote:
> > > > > On Monday November 1, 2021 at 2:50:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard Aldington
> > > > > > Amy Lowell
> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > > > > Harry Kemp
> > > > > > Donald Evans
> > > > > > Allen Norton
> > > > > > Louise Norton
> > > > > > H.D.
> > > > > > Mina Loy
> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > Ezra Pound
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
> > > Stan The Man...!!
> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

Likewise.

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 by: Rocky Stoneberg - Sun, 2 Oct 2022 19:28 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 7:25:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 1:59:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Tuesday November 2, 2021 at 6:50:37 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>
>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>> > > > > > H.D.
>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>> > > >
>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

> Likewise.

Quite so...

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 5 Oct 2022 09:38 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>
>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 5 Oct 2022 21:29 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

Cool...

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 by: W-Dockery - Sun, 9 Oct 2022 06:41 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Zod wrote:
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

>> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

> Cool...

Good morning, and, again, agreed.

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Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Zod wrote:
>
>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

Very cool work....!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

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General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Zod wrote:
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> Zod wrote:
>>
>>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

>> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

> Very cool work....!

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

Yes, "Thor: Love and Thunder" turned out pretty good, also.

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Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>
>>>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

>>> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.

>> Very cool work....!

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

> Yes, "Thor: Love and Thunder" turned out pretty good, also.

Reading GREAT things about the new Thor movie, yes...!

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On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:28:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> Zod wrote:
> >>>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> Zod wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
> >>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....
>
> >> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.
>
>
> > Very cool work....!
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg
> Yes, "Thor: Love and Thunder" turned out pretty good, also.

As I am seeing...!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNro_55dnRQ

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:07 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:28:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>>
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >>> Zod wrote:
>> >>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>> Zod wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>> >>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....
>>
>> >> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.
>>
>>
>> > Very cool work....!
>>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg
>> Yes, "Thor: Love and Thunder" turned out pretty good, also.

> As I am seeing...!

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNro_55dnRQ

Yes, I started watching"The Dark World" last night, again. The current film made me want to revisit the earlier ones.

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 22:13 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
>Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>> >>>>> > > >
>>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.

I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Literary+World+of+San+Francisco%22+%22brian+doohan%22

FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 102
"In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers..."

Brian Doohan bio....

https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Doohan

'Brian Doohan' is an American writer, originally of the 1970s latter-day Beat poetry scene of San Francisco, California, now living and writing in Columbus, Georgia.

The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
In the 1985 book published by {City Lights Books]] "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs by Don Herron and Nancy Joyce Peters, Brian's writings are discussed on Page 102:

"In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers was one of his works..."

Doohan now lives and works in Columbus, Georgia.

External Links
The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
The Golden Dawn
The Don Jones Index
Frisco Beat: Where are the Fanzines of Yesteryear?

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 by: W-Dockery - Sat, 19 Nov 2022 04:44 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>Zod wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Zod wrote:
>>
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.

> I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...

> https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Literary+World+of+San+Francisco%22+%22brian+doohan%22

> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 102
> "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers..."

> Brian Doohan bio....

> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Doohan

> 'Brian Doohan' is an American writer, originally of the 1970s latter-day Beat poetry scene of San Francisco, California, now living and writing in Columbus, Georgia.

> The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
> In the 1985 book published by {City Lights Books]] "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs by Don Herron and Nancy Joyce Peters, Brian's writings are discussed on Page 102:

> "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers was one of his works..."

> Doohan now lives and works in Columbus, Georgia.

> External Links
> The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
> The Golden Dawn
> The Don Jones Index
> Frisco Beat: Where are the Fanzines of Yesteryear?

Good find, Zod.

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 by: Zod - Sat, 19 Nov 2022 22:18 UTC

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
> >>>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
> >>>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
> >>>> >>>>> > > >
> >>>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
> >>>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
> >>>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>
> > I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...
>
> > https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Literary+World+of+San+Francisco%22+%22brian+doohan%22
>
> > FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 102
> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers...."
>
> > Brian Doohan bio....
>
> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Doohan
>
> > 'Brian Doohan' is an American writer, originally of the 1970s latter-day Beat poetry scene of San Francisco, California, now living and writing in Columbus, Georgia.
>
> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
> > In the 1985 book published by {City Lights Books]] "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs by Don Herron and Nancy Joyce Peters, Brian's writings are discussed on Page 102:
>
> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers was one of his works..."
>
> > Doohan now lives and works in Columbus, Georgia.
>
> > External Links
> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
> > The Golden Dawn
> > The Don Jones Index
> > Frisco Beat: Where are the Fanzines of Yesteryear?
> Good find, Zod.

http://www.lysator.liu.se/sf_archive/SF_resource_guide/sfrgo2.htm

More Doohan....

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 by: W-Dockery - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 17:29 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>> >>>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>> >>>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>
>> > I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...
>>
>> > https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Literary+World+of+San+Francisco%22+%22brian+doohan%22
>>
>> > FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 102
>> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers...."
>>
>> > Brian Doohan bio....
>>
>> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Doohan
>>
>> > 'Brian Doohan' is an American writer, originally of the 1970s latter-day Beat poetry scene of San Francisco, California, now living and writing in Columbus, Georgia.
>>
>> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
>> > In the 1985 book published by {City Lights Books]] "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs by Don Herron and Nancy Joyce Peters, Brian's writings are discussed on Page 102:
>>
>> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers was one of his works..."
>>
>> > Doohan now lives and works in Columbus, Georgia.
>>
>> > External Links
>> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
>> > The Golden Dawn
>> > The Don Jones Index
>> > Frisco Beat: Where are the Fanzines of Yesteryear?
>> Good find, Zod.

> http://www.lysator.liu.se/sf_archive/SF_resource_guide/sfrgo2.htm

> More Doohan....

Good find.

Brian Doohan writes about 1975 San Francisco.

https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Mayor_George_Moscone

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 04:00 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>> >>>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>> >>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>> >>>> >>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>> >>>> >>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>
>> > I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...
>>
>> > https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Literary+World+of+San+Francisco%22+%22brian+doohan%22
>>
>> > FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 102
>> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers...."
>>
>> > Brian Doohan bio....
>>
>> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Doohan
>>
>> > 'Brian Doohan' is an American writer, originally of the 1970s latter-day Beat poetry scene of San Francisco, California, now living and writing in Columbus, Georgia.
>>
>> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
>> > In the 1985 book published by {City Lights Books]] "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs by Don Herron and Nancy Joyce Peters, Brian's writings are discussed on Page 102:
>>
>> > "In the late 1970s Brian Doohan lived in apartment No. 1 in : 10 30 GERKE ALLEY From this building Doohan continued an offbeat literary artform he had first conceived and executed in Philadelphia . The work Greasy Fingers was one of his works..."
>>
>> > Doohan now lives and works in Columbus, Georgia.
>>
>> > External Links
>> > The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs
>> > The Golden Dawn
>> > The Don Jones Index
>> > Frisco Beat: Where are the Fanzines of Yesteryear?
>> Good find, Zod.

> http://www.lysator.liu.se/sf_archive/SF_resource_guide/sfrgo2.htm

> More Doohan....

Good evening, Zod, good find.

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Rocky Stoneberg wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 7:25:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 1:59:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > On Tuesday November 2, 2021 at 6:50:37 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>>
>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....

>> Likewise.

> Quite so...

Good evening my friend, happy Thanksgiving to you and Mike.

🙂

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:16:27 AM UTC-5, fake Conley Brothers forged:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:10:15 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>
> > I am reading a good book online "The Literary World of San Francisco & Its Environs" and have found friend Brian Doohan there...
> He's not your friend

How would you know, fake Conley?

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