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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:41 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 1:32:58 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 12:58:43 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > >
> > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign
> > No, I wrote that.
> > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > Okay, thanks.
> The screen on my phone had this cryptic set of symbols, it read: Will... , ...Will...69. Have you been 69ing yourself again, Will?

Good afternoon, Robert, did someone send you that?

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 1:59:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:45:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:04:40 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:43:10 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:35:11 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:14:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:06:05 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:52:47 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> as a child?
> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > but never "beat".
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > 0n Google search, the top definition of "paddled" is "to beat..."
> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> >> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=paddled&oq=paddled&aqs=chrome...69i57j0i131i433i512j0i512l2j46i10i512j0i512l4.24292j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
> >> >> > > >> >> > > I have friends who were beaten as children, with fists and with blunt objects, and it caused trauma that some of them are still dealing with
> >> >> > > >> >> > > to this day. Getting beat is a far cry from getting paddled.
> >> >> > > >> >> > Okay, you don't have to agree with the dictionary, I suppose.
> >> >> > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > >> >> > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> > > >> >> Okay
> >> >> > > >> > The difference between beating and paddle is
> >> >> > > >> Go argue with the dictionary about it.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Another example of your
> >> >> > > You're the one who wants to argue with the dictionary, Robert.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> > The dictionary is
> >> >> Did you read the definition?
> >> > Per Merriam-Webster:
> >>
> >> > b
> >> > : to punish by or as if by beating with a paddle
> >> Again, that says it all, really.
>
> > And what does it say, really?
>
> > Here's the definition immediately preceding the above:
>
> > : to beat or stir with or as if with a paddle (as in washing or dyeing)
>
> > So, according to Merriam-Webster, one "beats" with a paddle in a beating or stirring motion, as if washing clothes. To punish, "as if by beating with a paddle" would be to beat one as if washing clothes.
> That's right.
>
> Paddle = beat.
>
> HTH and HAND.

You're embarrassing yourself, Will. Are you saying that you really don't understand the difference between a paddling and a beating?
You should ask Zod to paddle you, and then, when he's done with the paddling, ask him to beat you. He's had experience beating on both you and your loved ones IIRC. Maybe then you'll be able to understand the difference between a paddling and a beating. But I doubt it, because you're one stubborn anti-semantic donkey.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:27 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > >
> > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign,
> > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > I read more than one definition of paddled, and the definition of paddled is "to beat".
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> The dictionary is a tool for self-edification. Please don’t
> use it to prove yourself too stupid to understand its function.

Good Goddamned, you and Robert are on a roll and I'm here contemplating dinner rolls...
To nom now or to nom at the proper time?

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:06 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign,
> > > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > > I read more than one definition of paddled, and the definition of paddled is "to beat".
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > The dictionary is a tool for self-edification. Please don’t
> > use it to prove yourself too stupid to understand its function.
> Good Goddamned, you and Robert are on a roll and I'm here contemplating dinner rolls...
> To nom now or to nom at the proper time?

Excuse me, I can’t talk right now.

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Actually, Robert, I don't think about paddling or beatings that much, but I see how they a similar enough that the dictionary uses the words pretty much interchangeably.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 23:10 UTC

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-6, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-23 12:00 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here's the quote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >>>>>> instead?
> >>>>>>> Here's the link:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >>>>>> to one.
> >>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From the same thread:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> >>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> >>>> story was true.
> >>>>
> >>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >>>
> >>> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
> Non-answer #1
> >> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
> >> you mind answering the question?
> Non-answer #2
> >>> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
> >> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
> >> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
> >> that I'd said it had happened to me.
> >>
> >> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
> >> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
> >> I'll ask you again:
> >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >
> Non-answer #3
> > That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."
> That is the quotation we've been discussing, Michael. But we haven't
> commented on the "largely based ..." quotation.
> > The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.
> No, Michael, they really don't. "Largely based" implies that my poem is
> *not* entirely based on my own experiences (not strictly
> autobiographical); which goes for the one stanza you quoted as well as
> for the rest. You imagined that one was strictly autobiographical, and
> you liked that so much that you imagined that I'd told you that it was
> strictly autobiographical.
> > But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
> i'll leave you with interpretation you prefer. But please stop
> pretending you have some evidence that that incident ever happened, and
> certainly not that I told you that it had happened. As much as I dislike
> calling you a liar again, what can I do when you're lying again?
> >
> > Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.
> >
> Imagine what you like; just stop pretending you're doing anything but
> imagaining.

As Karla Rogers put it:

"Try not to confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:10:05 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-6, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-23 12:00 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > >>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Here's the quote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > >>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > >>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> > >>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > >>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > >>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > >>>>>> instead?
> > >>>>>>> Here's the link:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > >>>>>> to one.
> > >>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> > >>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From the same thread:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > >>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > >>>> story was true.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > >>>
> > >>> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
> > Non-answer #1
> > >> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
> > >> you mind answering the question?
> > Non-answer #2
> > >>> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
> > >> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
> > >> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
> > >> that I'd said it had happened to me.
> > >>
> > >> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
> > >> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
> > >> I'll ask you again:
> > >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > >
> > Non-answer #3
> > > That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."
> > That is the quotation we've been discussing, Michael. But we haven't
> > commented on the "largely based ..." quotation.
> > > The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.
> > No, Michael, they really don't. "Largely based" implies that my poem is
> > *not* entirely based on my own experiences (not strictly
> > autobiographical); which goes for the one stanza you quoted as well as
> > for the rest. You imagined that one was strictly autobiographical, and
> > you liked that so much that you imagined that I'd told you that it was
> > strictly autobiographical.
> > > But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
> > i'll leave you with interpretation you prefer. But please stop
> > pretending you have some evidence that that incident ever happened, and
> > certainly not that I told you that it had happened. As much as I dislike
> > calling you a liar again, what can I do when you're lying again?
> > >
> > > Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.
> > >
> > Imagine what you like; just stop pretending you're doing anything but
> > imagaining.
>
> As Karla Rogers put it:
>
> "Try not to confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

We can now add "autobiographical" to the ever-growing list of words, phrases and acronyms that Will Donkey refuses to understand.

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:25:27 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:10:05 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-6, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-11-23 12:00 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > > >> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > >>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo....@aol.com wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> > > >>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Here's the quote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> > > >>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > >>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> > > >>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > >>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> > > >>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> > > >>>>>> instead?
> > > >>>>>>> Here's the link:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> > > >>>>>> to one.
> > > >>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> > > >>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> From the same thread:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> > > >>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> > > >>>> story was true.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
> > > Non-answer #1
> > > >> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
> > > >> you mind answering the question?
> > > Non-answer #2
> > > >>> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
> > > >> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
> > > >> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
> > > >> that I'd said it had happened to me.
> > > >>
> > > >> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
> > > >> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
> > > >> I'll ask you again:
> > > >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> > > >
> > > Non-answer #3
> > > > That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."
> > > That is the quotation we've been discussing, Michael. But we haven't
> > > commented on the "largely based ..." quotation.
> > > > The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.
> > > No, Michael, they really don't. "Largely based" implies that my poem is
> > > *not* entirely based on my own experiences (not strictly
> > > autobiographical); which goes for the one stanza you quoted as well as
> > > for the rest. You imagined that one was strictly autobiographical, and
> > > you liked that so much that you imagined that I'd told you that it was
> > > strictly autobiographical.
> > > > But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
> > > i'll leave you with interpretation you prefer. But please stop
> > > pretending you have some evidence that that incident ever happened, and
> > > certainly not that I told you that it had happened. As much as I dislike
> > > calling you a liar again, what can I do when you're lying again?
> > > >
> > > > Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.
> > > >
> > > Imagine what you like; just stop pretending you're doing anything but
> > > imagaining.
> >
> > As Karla Rogers put it:
> >
> > "Try not to confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> We can now add "autobiographical" to the ever-growing list of words, phrases and acronyms that Will Donkey refuses to understand.

It’s not that he refuses to understand. He simply doesn’t believe that words have meanings.
As far as he’s concerned, one word, like paddle, is just as good as another word, like beat.

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Robert Burrows wrote:

> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 1:59:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:45:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:04:40 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > > Robert Burrows wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:43:10 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:35:11 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:14:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:06:05 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:52:47 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > George J. Dance wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> as a child?
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > but never "beat".
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > 0n Google search, the top definition of "paddled" is "to beat..."
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=paddled&oq=paddled&aqs=chrome...69i57j0i131i433i512j0i512l2j46i10i512j0i512l4.24292j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > I have friends who were beaten as children, with fists and with blunt objects, and it caused trauma that some of them are still dealing with
>> >> >> > > >> >> > > to this day. Getting beat is a far cry from getting paddled.
>> >> >> > > >> >> > Okay, you don't have to agree with the dictionary, I suppose.
>> >> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> >> > > >> >> > HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> > > >> >> Okay
>> >> >> > > >> > The difference between beating and paddle is
>> >> >> > > >> Go argue with the dictionary about it.
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > Another example of your
>> >> >> > > You're the one who wants to argue with the dictionary, Robert.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> > The dictionary is
>> >> >> Did you read the definition?
>> >> > Per Merriam-Webster:
>> >>
>> >> > b
>> >> > : to punish by or as if by beating with a paddle
>> >> Again, that says it all, really.
>>
>> > And what does it say, really?
>>
>> > Here's the definition immediately preceding the above:
>>
>> > : to beat or stir with or as if with a paddle (as in washing or dyeing)
>>
>> > So, according to Merriam-Webster, one "beats" with a paddle in a beating or stirring motion, as if washing clothes. To punish, "as if by beating with a paddle" would be to beat one as if washing clothes.
>> That's right.
>>
>> Paddle = beat.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Are you saying that you really don't understand the difference between a paddling and a beating

Don't you trust the dictionary?

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:42:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 1:59:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:45:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:04:40 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:43:10 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:35:11 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:14:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:06:05 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:52:47 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> as a child?
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > but never "beat".
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > 0n Google search, the top definition of "paddled" is "to beat..."
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=paddled&oq=paddled&aqs=chrome...69i57j0i131i433i512j0i512l2j46i10i512j0i512l4.24292j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > I have friends who were beaten as children, with fists and with blunt objects, and it caused trauma that some of them are still dealing with
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > to this day. Getting beat is a far cry from getting paddled.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > Okay, you don't have to agree with the dictionary, I suppose.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> Okay
> >> >> >> > > >> > The difference between beating and paddle is
> >> >> >> > > >> Go argue with the dictionary about it.
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > Another example of your
> >> >> >> > > You're the one who wants to argue with the dictionary, Robert.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > The dictionary is
> >> >> >> Did you read the definition?
> >> >> > Per Merriam-Webster:
> >> >>
> >> >> > b
> >> >> > : to punish by or as if by beating with a paddle
> >> >> Again, that says it all, really.
> >>
> >> > And what does it say, really?
> >>
> >> > Here's the definition immediately preceding the above:
> >>
> >> > : to beat or stir with or as if with a paddle (as in washing or dyeing)
> >>
> >> > So, according to Merriam-Webster, one "beats" with a paddle in a beating or stirring motion, as if washing clothes. To punish, "as if by beating with a paddle" would be to beat one as if washing clothes.
> >> That's right.
> >>
> >> Paddle = beat.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > Are you saying that you really don't understand the difference between a paddling and a beating
> Don't you trust the dictionary?

You sound like an absolute fucking fool when you say something that stupid. Are you retarded? Seriously. Are you retarded? If I were you I'd cut my losses and claim that the fake Dockery was making these idiotic posts. Sheesh! If you keep it up, even George is going to have to walk away from you if he wants to cling to any shred of credibility..

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You're looking a bit like a fool, arguing over this, Robert.

The dictionary definition of paddled is "to beat".

Case closed.

🙂

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> You're looking a bit like a fool, arguing over this, Robert.
>
> The dictionary definition of paddled is "to beat".
>
> Case closed.
>
> 🙂

Arguing with you is an exercise in futility.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 01:09 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:42:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 1:59:47 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:45:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:04:40 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:43:10 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:35:11 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:14:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:06:05 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:52:47 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> IME, corporal punishment was pretty common in that time and plaee, Robert.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> You're not that much younger than I am. Were you beaten by your father
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> as a child?
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Corporeal punishment was the norm, so of course I received some carefully measured physical punishment, both at home, and at school. I was "paddled" and "spanked", but I was
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > but never "beat".
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > 0n Google search, the top definition of "paddled" is "to beat..."
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=paddled&oq=paddled&aqs=chrome...69i57j0i131i433i512j0i512l2j46i10i512j0i512l4.24292j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > I have friends who were beaten as children, with fists and with blunt objects, and it caused trauma that some of them are still dealing with
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > to this day. Getting beat is a far cry from getting paddled.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > Okay, you don't have to agree with the dictionary, I suppose.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > >> >> > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > > >> >> Okay
> >> >> >> > > >> > The difference between beating and paddle is
> >> >> >> > > >> Go argue with the dictionary about it.
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > Another example of your
> >> >> >> > > You're the one who wants to argue with the dictionary, Robert.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > The dictionary is
> >> >> >> Did you read the definition?
> >> >> > Per Merriam-Webster:
> >> >>
> >> >> > b
> >> >> > : to punish by or as if by beating with a paddle
> >> >> Again, that says it all, really.
> >>
> >> > And what does it say, really?
> >>
> >> > Here's the definition immediately preceding the above:
> >>
> >> > : to beat or stir with or as if with a paddle (as in washing or dyeing)
> >>
> >> > So, according to Merriam-Webster, one "beats" with a paddle in a beating or stirring motion, as if washing clothes. To punish, "as if by beating with a paddle" would be to beat one as if washing clothes.
> >> That's right.
> >>
> >> Paddle = beat.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > Are you saying that you really don't understand the difference between a paddling and a beating
> Don't you trust the dictionary?

It’s your word that’s untrustworthy, not the dictionary.

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> You're looking a bit like a fool, arguing over this, Robert.
>
> The dictionary definition of paddled is "to beat".
>
> Case closed. I
>
> 🙂

And the dictionary definition of imbibe is Will Dockery. Even your slurp puppet Zod hasn't chimed in with his obligatory "...nailed it doc." Shouldn't that make you wonder if, just maybe, you're wrong? I think that George Dance should be allowed to answer that question.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 01:19 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> You're looking a bit like a fool, arguing over this, Robert.
>
> The dictionary definition of paddled is "to beat".
>
> Case closed.
>
> 🙂

And the dictionary definition of imbecile is Will Dockery. Even your slurp puppet Zod hasn't chimed in with his obligatory "...nailed it doc." Shouldn't that make you wonder if, just maybe, you're wrong? I think that George Dance should be allowed to answer that question.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 01:25 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:19:38 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > You're looking a bit like a fool, arguing over this, Robert.
> >
> > The dictionary definition of paddled is "to beat".
> >
> > Case closed.
> >
> > 🙂
> And the dictionary definition of imbecile is Will Dockery. Even your slurp puppet Zod hasn't chimed in with his obligatory "...nailed it doc." Shouldn't that make you wonder if, just maybe, you're wrong? I think that George Dance should be allowed to answer that question.

He has a point though. Arguing with an imbecile doesn’t make you look very smart.

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:53:52 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Actually, Robert, I don't think about paddling or beatings that much, but I see how they a similar enough that the dictionary uses the words pretty much interchangeably.

That's one of your biggest problems (at least insofar as literacy is concerned); you think that synonyms are interchangeable.

In the vast majority of cases, they're not.

Words matter. Learn them.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 10:12 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 9:17:41 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:53:52 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Actually, Robert, I don't think about paddling or beatings that much, but I see how they a similar enough that the dictionary uses the words pretty much interchangeably.
> That's one of your biggest problems (at least insofar as literacy is concerned); you think that synonyms are interchangeable.
>
> In the vast majority of cases, they're not.
>
> Words matter. Learn them.

disjointed and muddled,
garbled and jumbled,
confused and mumbled,
but not incoherent or
unclear...

Will Dockery inadvertently revals his mastery of the English language...

"Actually… I don't think… that much,
but I…uses …words pretty much
interchangeably."
-WD
disjointed and muddled,
garbled and jumbled,
confused and mumbled,
but not incoherent or
unclear...

Will Dockery inadvertently revals his mastery of the English language...

"Actually… I don't think… that much, but I…uses …words pretty much interchangeably."
-WD

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 by: Robert Burrows - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 10:14 UTC

On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 9:17:41 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:53:52 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Actually, Robert, I don't think about paddling or beatings that much, but I see how they a similar enough that the dictionary uses the words pretty much interchangeably.
> That's one of your biggest problems (at least insofar as literacy is concerned); you think that synonyms are interchangeable.
>
> In the vast majority of cases, they're not.
>
> Words matter. Learn them.

disjointed and muddled,
garbled and jumbled,
confused and mumbled,
but not incoherent or
unclear...

Will Dockery inadvertently revals his mastery of the English language...

"Actually… I don't think… that much, but I…uses …words pretty much interchangeably."
-WD

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:53:52 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Actually, Robert, I don't think about paddling or beatings that much, but I see how they a similar enough that the dictionary uses the words pretty much interchangeably.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, I wrote a little story about
“driving nonstop straight to your little hovel there, and BEATING
the living fuck out of you” with a couple of little words, remember?
If I had written PADDLE, would you have reacted “similar enough”?

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:10:05 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-6, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On 2022-11-23 12:00 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> > >>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
>> > >>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Here's the quote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
>> > >>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>> > >>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
>> > >>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> > >>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
>> > >>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
>> > >>>>>> instead?
>> > >>>>>>> Here's the link:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
>> > >>>>>> to one.
>> > >>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
>> > >>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> From the same thread:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
>> > >>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
>> > >>>> story was true.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
>> > Non-answer #1
>> > >> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
>> > >> you mind answering the question?
>> > Non-answer #2
>> > >>> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
>> > >> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
>> > >> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
>> > >> that I'd said it had happened to me.
>> > >>
>> > >> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
>> > >> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
>> > >> I'll ask you again:
>> > >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
>> > >
>> > Non-answer #3
>> > > That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."
>> > That is the quotation we've been discussing, Michael. But we haven't
>> > commented on the "largely based ..." quotation.
>> > > The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.
>> > No, Michael, they really don't. "Largely based" implies that my poem is
>> > *not* entirely based on my own experiences (not strictly
>> > autobiographical);

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^

which goes for the one stanza you quoted as well as
>> > for the rest. You imagined that one was strictly autobiographical, and
>> > you liked that so much that you imagined that I'd told you that it was
>> > strictly autobiographical.
>> > > But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
>> > i'll leave you with interpretation you prefer. But please stop
>> > pretending you have some evidence that that incident ever happened, and
>> > certainly not that I told you that it had happened. As much as I dislike
>> > calling you a liar again, what can I do when you're lying again?
>> > >
>> > > Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.
>> > >
>> > Imagine what you like; just stop pretending you're doing anything but
>> > imagaining.
>>
>> As Karla Rogers put it:
>>
>> "Try not to confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

> We can now add "autobiographical" xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx

George Dance has already said his poem wasn't actually autobiographical, earlier on this thread.

See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:06:52 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign,
> > > > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > > > I read more than one definition of paddled, and the definition of paddled is "to beat".
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > The dictionary is a tool for self-edification. Please don’t
> > > use it to prove yourself too stupid to understand its function.
> > Good Goddamned, you and Robert are on a roll and I'm here contemplating dinner rolls...
> > To nom now or to nom at the proper time?
> Excuse me, I can’t talk right now.

I know, it's not polite to talk with your mouth full. So how about now?
Perhaps I'll paddle it out of you-- stir you with a paddle, beat you like eggs with a paddle.
Or would you prefer a paddling with a belt or some other hazardous object?

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On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 6:10:05 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-6, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > On 2022-11-23 12:00 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > >> On 2022-11-22 3:41 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> > >>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 3:01:30 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > >>>> On 2022-11-22 8:16 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > >>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > >>>>>> On 2022-11-21 1:52 p.m., Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:56:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 8:40 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:46:43 AM UTC-5, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> George Dance:
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Bottom line this time: it worked. Thanks to Robert's and Michael's
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> distraction, I didn't see the Chimp's "challenge". Which allowed his to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend that he'd won, and proved his superiority as a poet, without
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> having to actually write anything.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> This Mensa man has some serious issues.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Paranoia with a resultant persecution complex.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> This can be the result of excessive marijuana use, or it may stem from deeper, psychological issues.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> I remember George saying that as a boy, he'd have to lie in bed with his pajama pants pulled down each night while he waited for his father to come in to beat him.
> >> > >>>>>>>> NO, you don't remember any such thing. PPoSTFU.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Don't be such a dunce, George.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> The archives are easily searchable.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Here's the quote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Lights out, in bed by nine each night:
> >> > >>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> > >>>>>>> Face and pajama bottoms down
> >> > >>>>>>> Where for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> > >>>>>> As I suspected, Michael, it was something you'd found in one of my
> >> > >>>>>> poems. Why did you claim it was something I'd told you happened to me,
> >> > >>>>>> instead?
> >> > >>>>>>> Here's the link:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JMaPb2xVZyU/m/NFVZaZzaUgoJ?hl=en
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> I'm familiar with my own poems, Michael. But thank you for giving a link
> >> > >>>>>> to one.
> >> > >>>>>>> Why do you lie so much, George?
> >> > >>>>>> why do you project so much, Michael?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> From the same thread:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "The boy is a composite; largely based on my own experience...and most of
> >> > >>>>> the boys (in my family) were subject to corporal punishment." -- George J. Dance
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Yes, Michael; I was beaten by my father as a child. That much of your
> >> > >>>> story was true.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Having been beaten by one's father isn't the point.
> >> > Non-answer #1
> >> > >> Funny, then, that you're the one that began talking about it. Now, do
> >> > >> you mind answering the question?
> >> > Non-answer #2
> >> > >>> The point is that you were conditioned to lie in your bed with your pajama bottoms pulled down in docile anticipation of a whipping.
> >> > >> The point about that, Michael, is that you found that line in a poem,
> >> > >> and just made up that it had happened to: and then went on to make up
> >> > >> that I'd said it had happened to me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> All you've found that I actually said happen to me is that I'd been
> >> > >> beaten by my father as a child. So, since that is your entire point,
> >> > >> I'll ask you again:
> >> > >> Were you beaten by your father as a child?
> >> > >
> >> > Non-answer #3
> >> > > That is not all I found by you, George. You said that your poem was "largely based on (your) own experience" and that you were subjected to "corporal punishment."
> >> > That is the quotation we've been discussing, Michael. But we haven't
> >> > commented on the "largely based ..." quotation.
> >> > > The two statements, taken in conjunction, strongly imply that the boy lying in bed with his bare ass exposed was George J. Dance.
> >> > No, Michael, they really don't. "Largely based" implies that my poem is
> >> > *not* entirely based on my own experiences (not strictly
> >> > autobiographical);
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> which goes for the one stanza you quoted as well as
> >> > for the rest. You imagined that one was strictly autobiographical, and
> >> > you liked that so much that you imagined that I'd told you that it was
> >> > strictly autobiographical.
> >> > > But why drag this out? If you want to pretend that the bare-assed boy was one of the other boys who provided a much smaller portion of the basis of your poem, now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.
> >> > i'll leave you with interpretation you prefer. But please stop
> >> > pretending you have some evidence that that incident ever happened, and
> >> > certainly not that I told you that it had happened. As much as I dislike
> >> > calling you a liar again, what can I do when you're lying again?
> >> > >
> >> > > Barring this disclaimer to the contrary, the implication remains.
> >> > >
> >> > Imagine what you like; just stop pretending you're doing anything but
> >> > imagaining.
> >>
> >> As Karla Rogers put it:
> >>
> >> "Try not to confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > We can now add "autobiographical" xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> George Dance has already said his poem wasn't actually autobiographical, earlier on this thread.
>
> See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually, George Dance did not say that his poem wasn’t actually autobiographical.
Actually, what George Dance did say was his poem wasn’t strictly autobiographical.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:20 UTC

On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 11:25:29 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:06:52 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign,
> > > > > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > > > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > > > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > > > > I read more than one definition of paddled, and the definition of paddled is "to beat".
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > The dictionary is a tool for self-edification. Please don’t
> > > > use it to prove yourself too stupid to understand its function.
> > > Good Goddamned, you and Robert are on a roll and I'm here contemplating dinner rolls...
> > > To nom now or to nom at the proper time?
> > Excuse me, I can’t talk right now.
> I know, it's not polite to talk with your mouth full. So how about now?
> Perhaps I'll paddle it out of you-- stir you with a paddle, beat you like eggs with a paddle.
> Or would you prefer a paddling with a belt or some other hazardous object?

I think we’ve just about beaten that subject to death, don’t you?

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 25 Nov 2022 19:17 UTC

On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 1:20:49 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 11:25:29 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 4:06:52 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 11:02:43 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:51:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yes, as the dictionary definition puts it:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Paddle = to beat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > > The dictionary definition does not include the = sign,
> > > > > > > nor does it say or suggest that one word equals the other.
> > > > > > > Please, please, please learn to read the dictionary before
> > > > > > > commenting on its contents again. You can thank me later.
> > > > > > I read more than one definition of paddled, and the definition of paddled is "to beat".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > The dictionary is a tool for self-edification. Please don’t
> > > > > use it to prove yourself too stupid to understand its function.
> > > > Good Goddamned, you and Robert are on a roll and I'm here contemplating dinner rolls...
> > > > To nom now or to nom at the proper time?
> > > Excuse me, I can’t talk right now.
> > I know, it's not polite to talk with your mouth full. So how about now?
> > Perhaps I'll paddle it out of you-- stir you with a paddle, beat you like eggs with a paddle.
> > Or would you prefer a paddling with a belt or some other hazardous object?
> I think we’ve just about beaten that subject to death, don’t you?

But the beating has just begun! Now we whip that shit into a meringue-- then it will be well beaten!

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