Michael Pendragon wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > Zod wrote:
>>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >> > Wenceslas Kabeba wrote:
>
>>> >> >> > > > >> > The freemen ruined the terrorists when impure buildings fell
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Fusty metropolitans, cranks and jokers
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Jiggered by fibrocystic breast disease
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Crosscut clouds of teargas in blue topaz Calcutta
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Salubrious hematomas in overexposed heroism incarnate
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Surfaces a ragged stilted formalism
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Take off your mask
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Is it murder or is it debunked intoxication
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Hence the cowards in their religious residences
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Dissipated Jainism, prosaic love-in-a-mist
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Tom Thumbs knee high to a grasshopper
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Distrain mean leadership
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Necks thick as a celery stick
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Enjoying spatchcocked Muslims for their picnics
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Compromised hacked puttering figurations
>>> >> >> > > > >> > He was a government agent for the Department of Health, Education and Welfare
>>> >> >> > > > >> > A full bodied isometric gnostic by trade
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Excavating the crosshatched neoliths
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Buttresses, posts and lintels
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Hairsplittings of a Mancunian snuffler
>>> >> >> > > > >> > A terrorism of bullshit
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Pyrrhic and masochistic
>>> >> >> > > > >> > More gazump per square foot than Trump University
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Long ago I was fluent in Sindhi
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Now I am pious to careerism
>>> >> >> > > > >> > A jacked programmer with a massive line of credit
>>> >> >> > > > >> > The Secretary of Education at the Circuit Court of Appeals
>>> >> >> > > > >> > I have forsaken the old man, the bearded one
>>> >> >> > > > >> > His well born beacon
>>> >> >> > > > >> > And engaging manner inspiring aspersion
>>> >> >> > > > >> > An opera star of lard
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Harried disquiet
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Of the ambiguous weaver
>>> >> >> > > > >> >
>>> >> >> > > > >> > Wenceslas Kabeba
>>> >> >> > > > >> > copyright 2021
>>> >> >> > > > >> Good to see you back, King Wenceslas.
>>> >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> >> > > > >> It will take me a while to interpret your poem, but reads well so far.
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > > > Agreed and seconded....
>>> >> >> > > > Good morning, the writing reminds me of Lawrence Ferlinghetti a bit.
>>> >> >> > > Corso and mid period Ginsberg as well...
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > Examples if needed.....
>>> >> >> > Ginsberg somewhat. Corso, no.
>>> >> >> Have you really need any of Gregory Corso's poetry?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Poems such as "Bomb" are very close to the style used by W.K.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> https://www.litkicks.com/Texts/Bomb.html
>>> >>
>>> >> > They're nothing alike
>>> >> Wrong, there are similarities.
>>>
>>> > Explain
>>> There's a similar "breathless" style which was actually pioneered by Jack Kerouac and used in various ways by many of the Beat poets.

>> What do you find "rushed," in terms of style, tone, or anything else, about Kabeba's poem?

>> I get the impression that it was written slowly, by a man seeking out unusual synonyms to use for every other word.

Like I said, an onrush of words, read some Jack Kerouac and report back then, since it's obvious to all that Jack Kerouac set this form of poetry in motion, followed up by Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, and hundreds more poets to the present day.

"After me, the Deluge." -Jack Kerouac

And so it goes.

On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 9:28:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> > Zod wrote:
> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> >> > Wenceslas Kabeba wrote:
> >
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The freemen ruined the terrorists when impure buildings fell
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Fusty metropolitans, cranks and jokers
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Jiggered by fibrocystic breast disease
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Crosscut clouds of teargas in blue topaz Calcutta
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Salubrious hematomas in overexposed heroism incarnate
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Surfaces a ragged stilted formalism
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Take off your mask
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Is it murder or is it debunked intoxication
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hence the cowards in their religious residences
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Dissipated Jainism, prosaic love-in-a-mist
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Tom Thumbs knee high to a grasshopper
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Distrain mean leadership
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Necks thick as a celery stick
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Enjoying spatchcocked Muslims for their picnics
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Compromised hacked puttering figurations
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > He was a government agent for the Department of Health, Education and Welfare
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A full bodied isometric gnostic by trade
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Excavating the crosshatched neoliths
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Buttresses, posts and lintels
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hairsplittings of a Mancunian snuffler
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A terrorism of bullshit
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Pyrrhic and masochistic
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > More gazump per square foot than Trump University
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Long ago I was fluent in Sindhi
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Now I am pious to careerism
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A jacked programmer with a massive line of credit
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The Secretary of Education at the Circuit Court of Appeals
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > I have forsaken the old man, the bearded one
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > His well born beacon
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > And engaging manner inspiring aspersion
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > An opera star of lard
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Harried disquiet
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Of the ambiguous weaver
> >>> >> >> > > > >> >
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Wenceslas Kabeba
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > copyright 2021
> >>> >> >> > > > >> Good to see you back, King Wenceslas.
> >>> >> >> > > > >>
> >>> >> >> > > > >> It will take me a while to interpret your poem, but reads well so far.
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > > > Agreed and seconded....
> >>> >> >> > > > Good morning, the writing reminds me of Lawrence Ferlinghetti a bit.
> >>> >> >> > > Corso and mid period Ginsberg as well...
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > Examples if needed.....
> >>> >> >> > Ginsberg somewhat. Corso, no.
> >>> >> >> Have you really need any of Gregory Corso's poetry?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Poems such as "Bomb" are very close to the style used by W.K.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> https://www.litkicks.com/Texts/Bomb.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > They're nothing alike
> >>> >> Wrong, there are similarities.
> >>>
> >>> > Explain
> >>> There's a similar "breathless" style which was actually pioneered by Jack Kerouac and used in various ways by many of the Beat poets.
>
> >> What do you find "rushed," in terms of style, tone, or anything else, about Kabeba's poem?
>
> >> I get the impression that it was written slowly, by a man seeking out unusual synonyms to use for every other word.
> Like I said, an onrush of words, read some Jack Kerouac and report back then, since it's obvious to all that Jack Kerouac set this form of poetry in motion, followed up by Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, and hundreds more poets to the present day.
>
> "After me, the Deluge." -Jack Kerouac
>
> And so it goes.

Damn, but you're an idiot!

Where is this "deluge" in Kabeba's poem?

On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 9:28:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> > Zod wrote:
> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> >> > Wenceslas Kabeba wrote:
> >
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The freemen ruined the terrorists when impure buildings fell
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Fusty metropolitans, cranks and jokers
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Jiggered by fibrocystic breast disease
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Crosscut clouds of teargas in blue topaz Calcutta
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Salubrious hematomas in overexposed heroism incarnate
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Surfaces a ragged stilted formalism
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Take off your mask
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Is it murder or is it debunked intoxication
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hence the cowards in their religious residences
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Dissipated Jainism, prosaic love-in-a-mist
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Tom Thumbs knee high to a grasshopper
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Distrain mean leadership
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Necks thick as a celery stick
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Enjoying spatchcocked Muslims for their picnics
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Compromised hacked puttering figurations
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > He was a government agent for the Department of Health, Education and Welfare
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A full bodied isometric gnostic by trade
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Excavating the crosshatched neoliths
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Buttresses, posts and lintels
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hairsplittings of a Mancunian snuffler
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A terrorism of bullshit
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Pyrrhic and masochistic
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > More gazump per square foot than Trump University
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Long ago I was fluent in Sindhi
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Now I am pious to careerism
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A jacked programmer with a massive line of credit
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The Secretary of Education at the Circuit Court of Appeals
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > I have forsaken the old man, the bearded one
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > His well born beacon
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > And engaging manner inspiring aspersion
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > An opera star of lard
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Harried disquiet
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Of the ambiguous weaver
> >>> >> >> > > > >> >
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Wenceslas Kabeba
> >>> >> >> > > > >> > copyright 2021
> >>> >> >> > > > >> Good to see you back, King Wenceslas.
> >>> >> >> > > > >>
> >>> >> >> > > > >> It will take me a while to interpret your poem, but reads well so far.
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > > > Agreed and seconded....
> >>> >> >> > > > Good morning, the writing reminds me of Lawrence Ferlinghetti a bit.
> >>> >> >> > > Corso and mid period Ginsberg as well...
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > Examples if needed.....
> >>> >> >> > Ginsberg somewhat. Corso, no.
> >>> >> >> Have you really need any of Gregory Corso's poetry?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Poems such as "Bomb" are very close to the style used by W.K.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> https://www.litkicks.com/Texts/Bomb.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > They're nothing alike
> >>> >> Wrong, there are similarities.
> >>>
> >>> > Explain
> >>> There's a similar "breathless" style which was actually pioneered by Jack Kerouac and used in various ways by many of the Beat poets.
>
> >> What do you find "rushed," in terms of style, tone, or anything else, about Kabeba's poem?
>
> >> I get the impression that it was written slowly, by a man seeking out unusual synonyms to use for every other word.
> Like I said, an onrush of words, read some Jack Kerouac and report back then, since it's obvious to all that Jack Kerouac set this form of poetry in motion, followed up by Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, and hundreds more poets to the present day.
>
> "After me, the Deluge." -Jack Kerouac
>
> And so it goes.

https://www.beatdom.com/after-me-the-deluge-considering-kerouacs-final-statement/

Zod wrote:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 9:28:11 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> >> > Wenceslas Kabeba wrote:
>
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The freemen ruined the terrorists when impure buildings fell
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Fusty metropolitans, cranks and jokers
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Jiggered by fibrocystic breast disease
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Crosscut clouds of teargas in blue topaz Calcutta
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Salubrious hematomas in overexposed heroism incarnate
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Surfaces a ragged stilted formalism
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Take off your mask
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Is it murder or is it debunked intoxication
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hence the cowards in their religious residences
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Dissipated Jainism, prosaic love-in-a-mist
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Tom Thumbs knee high to a grasshopper
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Distrain mean leadership
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Necks thick as a celery stick
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Enjoying spatchcocked Muslims for their picnics
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Compromised hacked puttering figurations
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > He was a government agent for the Department of Health, Education and Welfare
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A full bodied isometric gnostic by trade
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Excavating the crosshatched neoliths
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Buttresses, posts and lintels
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Hairsplittings of a Mancunian snuffler
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A terrorism of bullshit
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Pyrrhic and masochistic
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > More gazump per square foot than Trump University
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Long ago I was fluent in Sindhi
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Now I am pious to careerism
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > A jacked programmer with a massive line of credit
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > The Secretary of Education at the Circuit Court of Appeals
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > I have forsaken the old man, the bearded one
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > His well born beacon
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > And engaging manner inspiring aspersion
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > An opera star of lard
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Harried disquiet
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Of the ambiguous weaver
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > Wenceslas Kabeba
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> > copyright 2021
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> Good to see you back, King Wenceslas.
>> >>> >> >> > > > >>
>> >>> >> >> > > > >> It will take me a while to interpret your poem, but reads well so far.
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > > > > Agreed and seconded....
>> >>> >> >> > > > Good morning, the writing reminds me of Lawrence Ferlinghetti a bit.
>> >>> >> >> > > Corso and mid period Ginsberg as well...
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > Examples if needed.....
>> >>> >> >> > Ginsberg somewhat. Corso, no.
>> >>> >> >> Have you really need any of Gregory Corso's poetry?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Poems such as "Bomb" are very close to the style used by W.K.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> https://www.litkicks.com/Texts/Bomb.html
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > They're nothing alike
>> >>> >> Wrong, there are similarities.
>> >>>
>> >>> > Explain
>> >>> There's a similar "breathless" style which was actually pioneered by Jack Kerouac and used in various ways by many of the Beat poets.
>>
>> >> What do you find "rushed," in terms of style, tone, or anything else, about Kabeba's poem?
>>
>> >> I get the impression that it was written slowly, by a man seeking out unusual synonyms to use for every other word.
>> Like I said, an onrush of words, read some Jack Kerouac and report back then, since it's obvious to all that Jack Kerouac set this form of poetry in motion, followed up by Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, and hundreds more poets to the present day.
>>
>> "After me, the Deluge." -Jack Kerouac
>>
>> And so it goes.

> https://www.beatdom.com/after-me-the-deluge-considering-kerouacs-final-statement/

Good find, Zod.

:)