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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 01:31 UTC

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:54 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:27:29 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:50:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:51:02 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:27:46 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:26:26 PM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> >> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7QhRTFiTc
> > > >> >> >> > > > > Isaac Chase continues to demonstrate his disrespect for this forum by posting links but providing no commentary. That behavior, combined with his use of this space as a chat room, makes him an insufferable irritant.
> > > >> >> >> > > > You pay him too much mind. He just doesn’t give a fuck. You shouldn’t either.
> > > >> >> >> > > The old skip and ignore policy would work just as good.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > There is no such “policy”. You made that stupid shit up,
> > > >> >> >> > but if it works for you, great. Do it more often, like now..
> > > >> >> >> Of course there's a policy.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> You just like to argue, Corey.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> HTH and HAND.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > You just dislike words.
> > > >> >> That's not true, Corey.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 🙂
> > > >>
> > > >> > It must be true
> > > >> Corey, I've been writing poetry for over forty years, I actually love using words.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > >
> > > > You didn’t like my poem so much you had to post-edit it
> > > I didn't know that was supposed to be a poem, sorry, Corey.
> > >
> >
> > Okay. If you didn’t know, you didn’t know.
> I stand corrected.
>
> 🙂

Happiness
BY RAYMOND CARVER
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 17:57 UTC

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:31:22 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:54 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:27:29 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:50:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:51:02 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:27:46 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:26:26 PM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7QhRTFiTc
> > > > >> >> >> > > > > Isaac Chase continues to demonstrate his disrespect for this forum by posting links but providing no commentary. That behavior, combined with his use of this space as a chat room, makes him an insufferable irritant.
> > > > >> >> >> > > > You pay him too much mind. He just doesn’t give a fuck. You shouldn’t either.
> > > > >> >> >> > > The old skip and ignore policy would work just as good..
> > > > >> >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> > There is no such “policy”. You made that stupid shit up,
> > > > >> >> >> > but if it works for you, great. Do it more often, like now.
> > > > >> >> >> Of course there's a policy.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> You just like to argue, Corey.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > You just dislike words.
> > > > >> >> That's not true, Corey.
>
> > > > >> > It must be true
> > > > >> Corey, I've been writing poetry for over forty years, I actually love using words.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > >
> > > > > You didn’t like my poem so much you had to post-edit it
> > > > I didn't know that was supposed to be a poem, sorry, Corey.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Okay. If you didn’t know, you didn’t know.
> > I stand corrected.
> >
>
> Happiness
> BY RAYMOND CARVER
> https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697

Back on topic, good.

🙂

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 18:43 UTC

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 12:57:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:31:22 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:54 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:27:29 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:50:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:51:02 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:27:46 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:26:26 PM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7QhRTFiTc
> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Isaac Chase continues to demonstrate his disrespect for this forum by posting links but providing no commentary. That behavior, combined with his use of this space as a chat room, makes him an insufferable irritant.
> > > > > >> >> >> > > > You pay him too much mind. He just doesn’t give a fuck. You shouldn’t either.
> > > > > >> >> >> > > The old skip and ignore policy would work just as good.
> > > > > >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> > There is no such “policy”. You made that stupid shit up,
> > > > > >> >> >> > but if it works for you, great. Do it more often, like now.
> > > > > >> >> >> Of course there's a policy.
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> You just like to argue, Corey.
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > You just dislike words.
> > > > > >> >> That's not true, Corey.
> >
> > > > > >> > It must be true
> > > > > >> Corey, I've been writing poetry for over forty years, I actually love using words.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You didn’t like my poem so much you had to post-edit it
> > > > > I didn't know that was supposed to be a poem, sorry, Corey.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay. If you didn’t know, you didn’t know.
> > > I stand corrected.
> > >
> >
> > Happiness
> > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> Back on topic, good.
>
> 🙂

For you, sure.

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Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> --
>> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> >
>> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
>> > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >
>> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
>> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
>> >
>> > :)
>> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now....!!

> Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.

I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:03 UTC

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
> >> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >
> >> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
> >> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now....!!
>
> > Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.
> I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Describe what the poem is about.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:07 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
>> >> > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >
>> >> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
>> >> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
>> >> >
>> >> > :)
>> >> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now.....!!
>>
>> > Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.
>> I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Describe what the poem is about.

Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.

🙂

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:50 UTC

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
> >> >> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
> >> >> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > :)
> >> >> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now.....!!
> >>
> >> > Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.
> >> I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > Describe what the poem is about.
> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
>
> 🙂

Okay, thanks.

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 by: W-Dockery - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:58 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> >> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >> >> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
>> >> >> > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
>> >> >> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > :)
>> >> >> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now.....!!
>> >>
>> >> > Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.
>> >> I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> > Describe what the poem is about.
>> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
>>
>

> Okay, thanks.

You're welcome, and have a nice day.

🙂

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 20:01 UTC

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> >> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> >> > > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For examples of words used and liked, click the link ^^^^^^
> >> >> >> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > If you liked words, you’d actually use them
> >> >> >> > I've been writing poetry and songs for over forty years, Corey, why keep trolling me about it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > :)
> >> >> >> That's just Corey being Corey, Doc.... we all know his ways by now.....!!
> >> >>
> >> >> > Using your own words, describe what the subject poem is about. Be detailed and specific.
> >> >> I read the poem, not really my favorite style of poetry, but not bad at all.
> >> >>
> >> >> HTH and HAND.
> >>
> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> >>
> >
>
> > Okay, thanks.
> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
>
> 🙂

Go team.

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 10 Dec 2022 21:30 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
>> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
>
>> > Okay, thanks.
>> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
>

> Go team.

GO BLUE TEAM....!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:44 UTC

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> >
> >> > Okay, thanks.
> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> >
>
> > Go team.
> GO BLUE TEAM....!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg

Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.

Happiness
BY RAYMOND CARVER
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 17:23 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
>> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
>> >
>> >> > Okay, thanks.
>> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
>> >
>>
>> > Go team.
>> GO BLUE TEAM....!
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg

> Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.

> Happiness
> BY RAYMOND CARVER
> https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697

What's your take on the poem, Corey?

🙂

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 17:34 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >
> >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> >> >
> >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Go team.
> >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
>
> > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
>
> > Happiness
> > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> What's your take on the poem, Corey?
>
> 🙂

Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:12 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > >> >
> > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> > Go team.
> > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > >>
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> >
> > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> >
> > > Happiness
> > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> >
>
> Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.

I never was a fan of his music.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:17 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > Go team.
> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > >>
> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > >
> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > >
> > > > Happiness
> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > >
> >
> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> I never was a fan of his music.

That’s good to know.
https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg

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Subject: Re: "Happiness"-Raymond Carver
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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:09 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
>> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
>> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Go team.
>> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
>> > >
>> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
>> > >
>> > > > Happiness
>> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
>> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
>> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
>> I never was a fan of his music.

> That’s good to know.
> https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg

I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.

For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:19 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Go team.
> >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> >> > >
> >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> >> > >
> >> > > > Happiness
> >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> >> I never was a fan of his music.
>
> > That’s good to know.
> > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
>
> For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
things to different people, that’s what happiness is.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:27 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Happiness
> > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> >
> > > That’s good to know.
> > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> >
> > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> things to different people, that’s what happiness is.

That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.

🙂

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:32 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > >
> > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > >
> > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
>
> 🙂

Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 20:24 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > >
> > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > >
> > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> >
> > 🙂
> Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?

Why are there two boys delivering the paper? That's usually a one-boy job.

IMHO: The boys are obviously a couple.

"I think if they could, they would take
each other's arm."

The boys are happy because they are sharing a morning walk, in the relative privacy of a still dark, early morning.

The speaker is experiencing an unexpected moment of happiness as he sees their happiness in conjunction with the sunrise. IOW: He is sharing in their joy without judgement or condemnation. The boys being lovers is as natural to him, and as beautiful, as any other part of nature.

Happiness sneaks up on him whenever he recognizes life's beautiful moments.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:02 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > >
> > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > >
> > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> >
>
> Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?

Go team.

🙂

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 by: NancyGene - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:20 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 8:24:17 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > > >
> > > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> > you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?
> Why are there two boys delivering the paper? That's usually a one-boy job..
They aren't actually delivering the newspaper. They have just killed the boy who had the route and are heading home.
>
> IMHO: The boys are obviously a couple.
That's a possibility, but we thought that they were in a gang and had just been made.
>
> "I think if they could, they would take
> each other's arm."
>
> The boys are happy because they are sharing a morning walk, in the relative privacy of a still dark, early morning.
And that they are now official members of the gang, having killed the kid who had the newspaper route. They may sell the newspapers downtown.
>
> The speaker is experiencing an unexpected moment of happiness as he sees their happiness in conjunction with the sunrise. IOW: He is sharing in their joy without judgement or condemnation. The boys being lovers is as natural to him, and as beautiful, as any other part of nature.
Don't you think that it's possible that he is experiencing happiness because he remembers when he first murdered someone? He is glad that the tradition is being carried on. That they are lovers is secondary to the observation that they are now fellow killers.
>
> Happiness sneaks up on him whenever he recognizes life's beautiful moments.
Death in the morning, death in the afternoon. Olé.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:56 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 4:20:15 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 8:24:17 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > > > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> > > >
> > > > 🙂
> > > Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> > > you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?
> > Why are there two boys delivering the paper? That's usually a one-boy job.
> They aren't actually delivering the newspaper. They have just killed the boy who had the route and are heading home.
> >
> > IMHO: The boys are obviously a couple.
> That's a possibility, but we thought that they were in a gang and had just been made.
> >
> > "I think if they could, they would take
> > each other's arm."
> >
> > The boys are happy because they are sharing a morning walk, in the relative privacy of a still dark, early morning.
> And that they are now official members of the gang, having killed the kid who had the newspaper route. They may sell the newspapers downtown.
> >
> > The speaker is experiencing an unexpected moment of happiness as he sees their happiness in conjunction with the sunrise. IOW: He is sharing in their joy without judgement or condemnation. The boys being lovers is as natural to him, and as beautiful, as any other part of nature.
> Don't you think that it's possible that he is experiencing happiness because he remembers when he first murdered someone? He is glad that the tradition is being carried on. That they are lovers is secondary to the observation that they are now fellow killers.
> >
> > Happiness sneaks up on him whenever he recognizes life's beautiful moments.
> Death in the morning, death in the afternoon. Olé.

You may be right...

"Such beauty that for a minute
death and ambition, even love,
doesn't enter into this."

The moment of ethereal and transient beauty transcends both death (the murdered newsboy) and love (they're gay gang members).

Re: "Happiness"-Raymond Carver

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:04 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 4:02:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs.
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > > >
> > > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> > >
> >
> > Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> > you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?
> Go team.
>
> 🙂

I didn’t expect an honest answer.

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 by: NancyGene - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:10 UTC

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:56:32 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 4:20:15 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 8:24:17 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:32:20 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:19:36 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:09:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:12:28 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:34:55 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Yes I have, and yes I do.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> --
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> Newspaper delivery boys happy with their jobs..
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Okay, thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> You're welcome, and have a nice day.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > Go team.
> > > > > > > >> > > >> GO BLUE TEAM....!
> > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#/media/File:Most_recent_senate_election.svg
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Now read this, and in your own words, describe what the poem is about.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Happiness
> > > > > > > >> > > > BY RAYMOND CARVER
> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/154788/happiness-5faad60c4b697
> > > > > > > >> > > What's your take on the poem, Corey?
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Ray Carver reminds me of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > > > >> I never was a fan of his music.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That’s good to know.
> > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/tFB2dk5tNqg
> > > > > > > I actually haven't even thought about Ray Conniff in years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the record, I much prefer Raymond Carver's poetry over the bland music of Ray Conniff.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > Whatever makes you happy. Happiness is different
> > > > > > things to different people, that’s what happiness is.
> > > > > That's what Raymond Carver's poem tells us, also.
> > > > >
> > > > > 🙂
> > > > Duh. Really? No shit? Who knew? When was the last time
> > > > you remember being really happy? Are you happy now?
> > > Why are there two boys delivering the paper? That's usually a one-boy job.
> > They aren't actually delivering the newspaper. They have just killed the boy who had the route and are heading home.
> > >
> > > IMHO: The boys are obviously a couple.
> > That's a possibility, but we thought that they were in a gang and had just been made.
> > >
> > > "I think if they could, they would take
> > > each other's arm."
> > >
> > > The boys are happy because they are sharing a morning walk, in the relative privacy of a still dark, early morning.
> > And that they are now official members of the gang, having killed the kid who had the newspaper route. They may sell the newspapers downtown.
> > >
> > > The speaker is experiencing an unexpected moment of happiness as he sees their happiness in conjunction with the sunrise. IOW: He is sharing in their joy without judgement or condemnation. The boys being lovers is as natural to him, and as beautiful, as any other part of nature.
> > Don't you think that it's possible that he is experiencing happiness because he remembers when he first murdered someone? He is glad that the tradition is being carried on. That they are lovers is secondary to the observation that they are now fellow killers.
> > >
> > > Happiness sneaks up on him whenever he recognizes life's beautiful moments.
> > Death in the morning, death in the afternoon. Olé.
> You may be right...
We are sure that we are correct in the grim interpretation. There is no other possibility.

> "Such beauty that for a minute
> death and ambition, even love,
> doesn't enter into this."
>
> The moment of ethereal and transient beauty transcends both death (the murdered newsboy) and love (they're gay gang members).
They are now one with the speaker of the poem. It is a beauty that speaks to the stilling of breath, the slashing of throats, and the touch of a hand (with a knife)--a perfect circle of red in tooth and claw.


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