On 5/24/23 1:23 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They've encouraged veterans to take the MAID (Medical
>>>>>>>>> Assistance In
>>>>>>>>> Dying) too, even though the veterans in question were still
>>>>>>>>> medically
>>>>>>>>> treatable. When word of that got out, it caused such a big uproar
>>>>>>>>> that the government decided to defer further "liberalization"
>>>>>>>>> of MAID-
>>>>>>>>> but only for one year. I suppose they want some more time to
>>>>>>>>> come up
>>>>>>>>> with a big PR campaign to convince people that they should let the
>>>>>>>>> doctors kill them rather than letting themselves become a
>>>>>>>>> burden on
>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making MAID
>>>>>>>>> mandatory
>>>>>>>>> instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals would insist that they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> NEVER make it mandatory but I trust them about as far as I
>>>>>>>>> trust that
>>>>>>>>> Mizzy goofball to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo outrageous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed, nor did
>>>>>>> they ever exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought attention
>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim her
>>>>>> claim was
>>>>>> false.
>>>>>
>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth", as
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being judged
>>>>> to see if they were worthy of health care.
>>>>
>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>
>>> How so?
>>
>> Read the thread.
>
> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?

No, she was prescient in trying to put lipstick on a pig.

On 5/25/23 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was right
>>>>>>> and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels" exist or
>>>>>> have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the system and
>>>>> starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of denial
>>>>> of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>
>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>> policy.)
>>>>
>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>
>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive and
>>>> denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>> general policy."
>>>
>>> Read the thread.
>>
>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>
> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
> factually doing it.
>

None of which is what Palin was referring to.

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On 5/25/23 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <EqNbM.2092567$t5W7.547884@fx13.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/25/2023 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was right
>>>>>>>>> and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels" exist or
>>>>>>>> have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the system and
>>>>>>> starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of denial
>>>>>>> of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive and
>>>>>> denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>>> general policy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>
>>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>>
>>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>>> factually doing it.
>>
>> Again, what evidence of that can you cite?
>
> Read the thread.
>

Read it. If you see any evidence there, it's YOU who need to read the
thread again.

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On 5/25/23 6:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <frPbM.490090$qjm2.305377@fx09.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/25/2023 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <EqNbM.2092567$t5W7.547884@fx13.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/25/2023 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was
>>>>>>>>>>> right and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels" exist
>>>>>>>>>> or have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>> and starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of
>>>>>>>>> denial of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive
>>>>>>>> and denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>>>>> general policy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>>>>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>>>>> factually doing it.
>>>>
>>>> Again, what evidence of that can you cite?
>>>
>>> Read the thread.
>>
>> Is reading and rereading "the thread" how you came to believe it?
>
> Nope. Only took me once. Not sure why you're having such problems.
>

He's having problems seeing your evidence because he comprehends what he
reads, like most of us.

You don't suffer from that handicap.

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On 5/25/23 7:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On May 25, 2023 at 4:01:02 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/25/2023 6:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <frPbM.490090$qjm2.305377@fx09.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/25/2023 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <EqNbM.2092567$t5W7.547884@fx13.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/25/2023 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels" exist
>>>>>>>>>>>> or have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>>>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>>>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>>>> and starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of
>>>>>>>>>>> denial of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>>>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>>>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>>>>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive
>>>>>>>>>> and denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>>>>>>> general policy."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>>>>>>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>>>>>>> factually doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, what evidence of that can you cite?
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>
>>>> Is reading and rereading "the thread" how you came to believe it?
>>>
>>> Nope. Only took me once. Not sure why you're having such problems.
>>
>> Yet you seem certain that repeated reading will solve them.
>
> Not really. I just see no need to re-cite things that have already been made
> clear. If you can figure it out, great. If not, either re-read it until you
> can or have someone sound out the words for you.
>
>

On 5/26/23 4:49 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/24/23 1:23 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They've encouraged veterans to take the MAID (Medical
>>>>>>>>>> Assistance In
>>>>>>>>>> Dying) too, even though the veterans in question were still
>>>>>>>>>> medically
>>>>>>>>>> treatable. When word of that got out, it caused such a big uproar
>>>>>>>>>> that the government decided to defer further "liberalization"
>>>>>>>>>> of MAID-
>>>>>>>>>> but only for one year. I suppose they want some more time to
>>>>>>>>>> come up
>>>>>>>>>> with a big PR campaign to convince people that they should let
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> doctors kill them rather than letting themselves become a
>>>>>>>>>> burden on
>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making MAID
>>>>>>>>>> mandatory
>>>>>>>>>> instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals would insist that
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> NEVER make it mandatory but I trust them about as far as I
>>>>>>>>>> trust that
>>>>>>>>>> Mizzy goofball to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed, nor did
>>>>>>>> they ever exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim her
>>>>>>> claim was
>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth", as
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being
>>>>>> judged
>>>>>> to see if they were worthy of health care.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>
>>>> How so?
>>>
>>> Read the thread.
>>
>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>
>
> No, she was prescient in trying to put lipstick on a pig.
>

Let's leave Marjorie Taylor Greene out of this one, shall we?

--
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Bible 25B.G.
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On 5/25/23 10:12 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/24/23 8:15 PM, FPP wrote:
>> On 5/24/23 1:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They've encouraged veterans to take the MAID (Medical
>>>>>>>>> Assistance In
>>>>>>>>> Dying) too, even though the veterans in question were still
>>>>>>>>> medically
>>>>>>>>> treatable. When word of that got out, it caused such a big uproar
>>>>>>>>> that the government decided to defer further "liberalization"
>>>>>>>>> of MAID-
>>>>>>>>> but only for one year. I suppose they want some more time to
>>>>>>>>> come up
>>>>>>>>> with a big PR campaign to convince people that they should let the
>>>>>>>>> doctors kill them rather than letting themselves become a
>>>>>>>>> burden on
>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making MAID
>>>>>>>>> mandatory
>>>>>>>>> instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals would insist that
>>>>>>>>> they would
>>>>>>>>> NEVER make it mandatory but I trust them about as far as I
>>>>>>>>> trust that
>>>>>>>>> Mizzy goofball to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo outrageous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed, nor did
>>>>>>> they ever exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought attention
>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim her
>>>>>> claim was
>>>>>> false.
>>>>>
>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth", as
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being judged
>>>>> to see if they were worthy of health care.
>>>>
>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>
>>> How so?
>>
>>
>> This should be good.  Bet we're gonna learn lots we didn't know now.
>> Meanwhile, while we're waiting for Thanny to expound... enjoy!
>>
>> On Paul Revere:
>>> He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away
>>> our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's
>>> riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells
>>> that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we
>>> were going to be armed.
>>
>> Hmmm... I'll be returning my bachelors degree in History, now.  I
>> don't deserve it fer knot knowin' them thar historical fax.
>>
>>> The status quo has got to go, otherwise we're just going to get more
>>> of the same. And with their failed agenda, it can't be salvaged. It
>>> must be savaged. And Donald Trump is the right one to do that."
>>
>> When asked to cite a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with
>> (excluding Roe V Wade):
>>> Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America
>>> there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute
>>> consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like
>>> Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and
>>> addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America,
>>> there would be others but ―"
>>
>> When called out for her using own "special" wurds:
>>> 'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living
>>> language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'
>>
>> On Kim Jong-Un:
>>> But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies.
>>
>> And this is right up Thanny's alley, being as how it's about The
>> Department of Law, and all:
>>> I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White
>>> House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with
>>> and automatically throw them out.
>>
>> Prescient?   Maybe Thanny meant "President".
>>
>
>
> Prescient?  She isn't even literate.

I don't know about that, "death panels" may have been what they were
convening in Uvalde.

On 5/25/23 6:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On May 25, 2023 at 4:01:02 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/25/2023 6:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <frPbM.490090$qjm2.305377@fx09.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/25/2023 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <EqNbM.2092567$t5W7.547884@fx13.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/25/2023 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels" exist
>>>>>>>>>>>> or have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>>>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>>>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>>>> and starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of
>>>>>>>>>>> denial of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>>>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>>>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>>>>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive
>>>>>>>>>> and denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>>>>>>> general policy."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>>>>>>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>>>>>>> factually doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, what evidence of that can you cite?
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>
>>>> Is reading and rereading "the thread" how you came to believe it?
>>>
>>> Nope. Only took me once. Not sure why you're having such problems.
>>
>> Yet you seem certain that repeated reading will solve them.
>
> Not really. I just see no need to re-cite things that have already been made
> clear. If you can figure it out, great. If not, either re-read it until you
> can or have someone sound out the words for you.

On 5/26/23 6:33 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/25/23 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health
>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in predicting the
>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one geopolitical
>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same breath with
>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels"
>>>>>>> exist or
>>>>>>> have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately predicted
>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health care: the
>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the
>>>>>> system and
>>>>>> starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of denial
>>>>>> of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and concepts well
>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly being
>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and denial
>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a general
>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>
>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of denial of
>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide incentive
>>>>> and
>>>>> denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>> general policy."
>>>>
>>>> Read the thread.
>>>
>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>
>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>> factually doing it.
>>
>
> None of which is what Palin was referring to.

Yes but the whole planet knows her alpha wave activity was the victim of
a death panel.

On 5/26/23 6:36 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/25/23 6:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <frPbM.490090$qjm2.305377@fx09.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/25/2023 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <EqNbM.2092567$t5W7.547884@fx13.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/25/2023 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <OYJbM.3393146$iU59.2918706@fx14.iad>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 7:36:14 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 9:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2023 at 1:15:56 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_CsbM.3871033$GNG9.2840749@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAID mandatory instead of voluntary. I'm sure the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would insist that they would NEVER make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I trust them about as far as I trust that Mizzy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goofball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor did they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her claim was false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myth",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that means. She was prescient in
>>>>>>>>>>>> predicting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> end result of socialized government-run health care.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like Mitt Romney, who was mocked by Obama for responding
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Russia" to the question "Who is America's number one
>>>>>>>>>>>> geopolitical
>>>>>>>>>>>> adversary?" Even hyper-partisan Democrats now admit Romney was
>>>>>>>>>>>> right and Obama was wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see how you can mention Sarah Palin in the same
>>>>>>>>>>> breath with
>>>>>>>>>>> Obama and Romney. But, are you saying that her "Death Panels"
>>>>>>>>>>> exist
>>>>>>>>>>> or have ever existed? If so, please cite.
>>>>>>>>>> I think I was quite clear in what I said. Palin accurately
>>>>>>>>>> predicted
>>>>>>>>>> the logical end result of socialized government-run health
>>>>>>>>>> care: the
>>>>>>>>>> government starts to see every individual as a burden on the
>>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>>>> and starts prioritizing the relief if that burden in the form of
>>>>>>>>>> denial of care and incentivizing euthanasia.
>>>>>>>>>> (For someone who routinely enjoys stretching words and
>>>>>>>>>> concepts well
>>>>>>>>>> beyond their commonly understood definitions, you're suddenly
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> suspiciously pedantic about whether the suicide incentive and
>>>>>>>>>> denial
>>>>>>>>>> of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or just a
>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm unaware of that circumstance. Please cite your evidence that:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "the government [sees] every individual as a burden on the system
>>>>>>>>> and [prioritizes] the relief of that burden in the form of
>>>>>>>>> denial of
>>>>>>>>> care and incentivizing euthanasia ... whether the suicide
>>>>>>>>> incentive
>>>>>>>>> and denial of care takes the form of a panel of bureaucrats or
>>>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>>> general policy."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read the thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afaics, "the thread" comprises allegations, not evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not just an allegation that Canadia is expanding its "let us
>>>>>> help you die" program from the terminally ill to the poors. They are
>>>>>> factually doing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, what evidence of that can you cite?
>>>>
>>>> Read the thread.
>>>
>>> Is reading and rereading "the thread" how you came to believe it?
>>
>> Nope. Only took me once. Not sure why you're having such problems.
>>
>
> He's having problems seeing your evidence because he comprehends what he
> reads, like most of us.
>
> You don't suffer from that handicap.

On 5/26/23 6:39 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/26/23 4:49 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 5/24/23 1:23 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2023 1:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <_QrbM.3430435$9sn9.858073@fx17.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2023 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <VqpbM.3862236$GNG9.2226104@fx18.iad>,
>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/24/2023 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/23 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They've encouraged veterans to take the MAID (Medical
>>>>>>>>>>> Assistance In
>>>>>>>>>>> Dying) too, even though the veterans in question were still
>>>>>>>>>>> medically
>>>>>>>>>>> treatable. When word of that got out, it caused such a big
>>>>>>>>>>> uproar
>>>>>>>>>>> that the government decided to defer further "liberalization"
>>>>>>>>>>> of MAID-
>>>>>>>>>>> but only for one year. I suppose they want some more time to
>>>>>>>>>>> come up
>>>>>>>>>>> with a big PR campaign to convince people that they should
>>>>>>>>>>> let the
>>>>>>>>>>> doctors kill them rather than letting themselves become a
>>>>>>>>>>> burden on
>>>>>>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's anyone's guess how long they'll wait before making MAID
>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of voluntary. I'm sure the Liberals would insist that
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> NEVER make it mandatory but I trust them about as far as I
>>>>>>>>>>> trust that
>>>>>>>>>>> Mizzy goofball to behave himself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But Sarah Palin saying "death panels" was just sooooooo
>>>>>>>>>> outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. Because it was a fucking lie. No such panels existed, nor did
>>>>>>>>> they ever exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong. The "death panels" were removed after she brought
>>>>>>>> attention to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny enough, this is why "fact checkers" like Scopes claim her
>>>>>>>> claim was
>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth", as
>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>> in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being
>>>>>>> judged
>>>>>>> to see if they were worthy of health care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet she seems to have been prescient nevertheless.
>>>>>
>>>>> How so?
>>>>
>>>> Read the thread.
>>>
>>> Was she "prescient" in causing an action to be taken?
>>
>>
>> No, she was prescient in trying to put lipstick on a pig.
>>
>
>
> Let's leave Marjorie Taylor Greene out of this one, shall we?

Sasquatch did a great job of picking up the torch from Palin. It's a
shame she picked it up on the burning portion of course.

On 5/25/23 11:12 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/24/23 8:15 PM, FPP wrote:

>> Prescient?   Maybe Thanny meant "President".
>
>Prescient? She isn't even literate.

Oops! Someone forgot to switch acocunts when replying to himself again!

--
And since I trashed all my social media accounts over a year ago, the
only time I check in here is when I boot up to check out my external SSD
backup drive.

So you shouldn't expect I'll see any replies... but feel free to knock
yourself out!

-- FPP

In article <IJacM.355161$eRZ7.5589@fx06.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
>On 5/25/23 10:12 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 5/24/23 8:15 PM, FPP wrote:

>>> Prescient?   Maybe Thanny meant "President".
>>
>> Prescient?  She isn't even literate.
>
>I don't know about that, "death panels" may have been what they were
>convening in Uvalde.

Looks like "trotsky" remembered to switch accounts before posting a follow-up
this time!

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only time I check in here is when I boot up to check out my external SSD
backup drive.

So you shouldn't expect I'll see any replies... but feel free to knock
yourself out!

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