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* Re: "I've Been Shot At": Combat Veteran Blows Up MSNBC Guest's ClaimBering Sea Bar & Brig
`* Re: "I've Been Shot At": Combat Veteran Blows Up MSNBC Guest's ClaimIrish Mike
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Re: "I've Been Shot At": Combat Veteran Blows Up MSNBC Guest's Claim That Florida Is A "Terrorist State"

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Subject: Re: "I've Been Shot At": Combat Veteran Blows Up MSNBC Guest's Claim
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 by: Bering Sea Bar & - Wed, 24 May 2023 19:03 UTC

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > Congressman Mike Waltz (R-FL) fired back on Tuesday after an MSNBC guest
> > claimed that Florida was "about to be a terrorist state" for black Americans
> > and anyone in the LGBTQ community.
> >
> > Democratic strategist Aisha Mills made the comment to DEADLINE WHITE HOUSE
> > host Nicolle Wallace, referencing a travel warning from the NAACP that
> > labeled Florida "hostile" to black Americans and the LGBTQ population. Waltz,
> > a combat veteran and a Green Beret who was literally trained to fight
> > terrorists, said Mills was "legitimately insane".
> > Mills said that she appreciated the warning from the NAACP, saying, "I think
> > it was extremely clever, and I really appreciate the NAACP's guidance on this
> > issue, you know, I just took my family to Spring Break in Florida recently,
> > and I think about all of the folks who travel there for sun and joy and peace
> > and restoration-- and to be reminded that actually this is getting to the
> > point where Florida is about to be a terrorist state to many of us here in
> > America. Certainly as a lesbian, as a black woman, I don't want to have
> > anything to do with the place."
> Except that's not true as you just openly admitted-- you took your
> family to Florida for Spring Break and gave the state the benefit of
> spending your money there. And amazingly you made it out alive.
>
> So your entire rant was a lie, wasn't it, babydoll?
> > Radio host Clay Travis shared a video clip of Mills’ appearance, adding,
> > "These people are legit insane"-- and Waltz readily agreed.
> >
> > "@ClayTravis is 100% correct," Waltz tweeted in response. "As a combat
> > veteran, I've been shot at by actual terrorists in war torn countries. These
> > people are legitimately insane."
> > Florida GOP Chairman Christian Ziegler also responded to the NAACP's warning,
> > noting that the organization's chairman-- Leon Russell-- lived in Florida
> > himself.
>
> Hahahahahahahahaha!
>
> You can't make this shit up.

Florida invented dive bombing drivers cutting across expressway lanes to exit. A yoooge armpit.

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 by: Irish Mike - Fri, 26 May 2023 13:00 UTC

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
in Florida than they do in California.

Irish Mike

Any loss for the left wing is a win for America.

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 26 May 2023 13:59 UTC

On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
> in Florida than they do in California.

That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.

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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 26 May 2023 23:47 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>> in Florida than they do in California.
>
> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.

What sort of context do you need?

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 by: moviePig - Sat, 27 May 2023 03:22 UTC

On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>
>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>
> What sort of context do you need?

State populations, for example.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sat, 27 May 2023 03:30 UTC

In article <MHecM.2218039$Tcw8.165227@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05?PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24?PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
> >>> in Florida than they do in California.
> >>
> >> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
> >
> > What sort of context do you need?
>
> State populations, for example.

Isn't that readily available in Wikipedia?

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 27 May 2023 04:32 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

>>>>>Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>>>>in Florida than they do in California.

>>>>That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.

>>>What sort of context do you need?

>>State populations, for example.

>Isn't that readily available in Wikipedia?

I'd point out the American Business Survey.

https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/abs/data/tables.2019.html

This stuff is pre-pandemic.

I suppose the Census Bureau is too biased for moviePig to read. The survey
has tables by state and race of business owner.

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On 5/26/23 8:59 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig
>> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>> Here's an inconvenient fact.  More blacks own their own businesses
>>   in Florida than they do in California.
>
> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.

Funny how this was the exact same thing you and FPP just told Oath
Keeper Twat. I wish these guys would make more of an effort with their
sockpuppets.

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On 5/26/23 6:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>
>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>
> What sort of context do you need?

And boom! goes the dynamite. OKT can keep this shit up for days or
weeks if you're stupid enough to take the bait. As ever he's a master
baiter.

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On 5/26/23 10:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <MHecM.2218039$Tcw8.165227@fx10.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05?PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24?PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>>
>>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>>>
>>> What sort of context do you need?
>>
>> State populations, for example.
>
> Isn't that readily available in Wikipedia?

Sure, when you're an intellectual coward this is what you're inclined to
say. Put another way, you have no balls.

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On 5/26/2023 11:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <MHecM.2218039$Tcw8.165227@fx10.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05?PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar & Brig
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24?PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>>
>>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>>>
>>> What sort of context do you need?
>>
>> State populations, for example.
>
> Isn't that readily available in Wikipedia?

Probably ...along with much (though perhaps not all) of the context
needed to make a meaningful claim rather than a ginned-up sound bite.

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On 5/27/2023 4:43 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/26/23 6:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar &
>>>> Brig wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact.  More blacks own their own businesses
>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>
>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>>
>> What sort of context do you need?
>
>
> And boom! goes the dynamite.  OKT can keep this shit up for days or
> weeks if you're stupid enough to take the bait.  As ever he's a master
> baiter.

Think of it as calisthenics.

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On 5/27/23 4:43 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/26/23 6:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar &
>>>> Brig wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact.  More blacks own their own businesses
>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>
>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>>
>> What sort of context do you need?
>
>
> And boom! goes the dynamite.  OKT can keep this shit up for days or
> weeks if you're stupid enough to take the bait.  As ever he's a master
> baiter.
>

Remember when the cops said George Floyd died after a medical incident?

Context kinda mattered a bit there there.

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On 5/27/23 9:47 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 5/27/23 4:43 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 5/26/23 6:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Bering Sea Bar &
>>>>> Brig wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <u4kuis$2us5r$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact.  More blacks own their own businesses
>>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>>
>>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or
>>>> noteworthy.
>>>
>>> What sort of context do you need?
>>
>>
>> And boom! goes the dynamite.  OKT can keep this shit up for days or
>> weeks if you're stupid enough to take the bait.  As ever he's a master
>> baiter.
>>
>
> Remember when the cops said George Floyd died after a medical incident?
>
> Context kinda mattered a bit there there.

Yes but that quickly morphed into "George Floyd was a drug addict who
would've died some day anyway." To a right wing asshole that's a valid
statement.

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That Florida Is A "Terrorist State"
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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 30 May 2023 08:30 UTC

In article <oX2cM.624964$Ldj8.460750@fx47.iad>, pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>> in Florida than they do in California.
>
>That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.

Nonresponse noted. Get back to us when you have a real argunment to make.

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Re: "I've Been Shot At": Combat Veteran Blows Up MSNBC Guest's Claim That Florida Is A "Terrorist State"

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 30 May 2023 08:30 UTC

pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 5/26/2023 11:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2023 7:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/26/2023 9:00 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>>>> Bering Sea Bar & Brig wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:45:24?PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>>>>> Here's an inconvenient fact. More blacks own their own businesses
>>>>>> in Florida than they do in California.
>>>>>
>>>>> That "inconvenient fact" needs context to be true, false, or noteworthy.
>>>>
>>>> What sort of context do you need?
>>>
>>> State populations, for example.
>>
>> Isn't that readily available in Wikipedia?
>
>Probably ...along with much (though perhaps not all) of the context
>needed to make a meaningful claim rather than a ginned-up sound bite.

Well, there's American Business Survey from the Census Bureau...
https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/abs/data/tables.2019.html

But of course, this is just your way of telling us you lost the debate.

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