One of the arguments you hear a lot in the debate over gender ideology,
across the political spectrum, is that adults should be able to do what they
want. This is the supposedly �moderate� position. Several presidential
candidates believe it. Millions of Americans believe it, too. As long as you
stay away from the kids, they tell you, then there�s no problem. The moment
you hit 18-years-old, do what you want. �Live your truth.�

It�s not hard to see why that position is tempting for so many people.
Children obviously can�t consent to life-altering procedures, including
genital mutilation and castration. Adults, on the other hand, are able to
consent to a lot of things. They can vote, buy guns, and serve in the
military. So, if they want to pay a doctor to carve up their bodies, then
what�s the big deal? That�s the argument you hear again and again.

No one really means it, though. And you know that because none of the people
making that argument would use the same reasoning to justify, say,
lobotomies. If you walked into a doctor�s office today and asked him to drill
a hole in your head and sever your prefrontal cortex in order to make you
feel better about your life, he�d say no. If he did it, he�d go to prison. No
amount of informed consent � no matter how old you were � could possibly
justify it. It�s barbaric. Tens of thousands of people�s lives were ruined by
lobotomies. And everyone recognizes that now. No one�s marching in defense of
�lobotomy-affirming care.�

So, if you defend these gruesome �gender-affirming� procedures on adults,
you�re not really saying that adults should be able to do what they want.
You�re saying that, yes, people can change their sex if they want. You�re
conceding that these procedures � slicing up a woman�s arm to make a fake
penis, lopping off healthy breasts, grafting fake nipples onto patients�
chests, et cetera � are medically reasonable. And in the absence of any kind
of statistical data about positive long-term outcomes of these surgeries,
you�re trusting the doctors to follow an established standard of care. You�re
assuming they�re not going to just mutilate anyone who walks in the door,
without regard for what happens to these people afterwards.

The problem is that the entire industry of �gender affirming care� is a scam.
We know that because we just spent weeks investigating the largest providers
of so-called �trans healthcare� in the country. We went undercover at one of
them.

What we found is that there are no real �standards of care� governing any of
this. To be clear, there are �standards of care� on paper, and they�re
provided by the transgender activist group WPATH. WPATH�s standards are used
by major hospitals in this country, including UCLA, UCSF, and Mass General,
just to name a few.

How rigorous are these standards, exactly? After a 22-minute video call, the
largest �trans healthcare� provider in the country � carefully following the
WPATH guidelines � approved one of my producers, Gregg Re, for an
orchiectomy. That means testicle removal. Now, 22 minutes would be a record
time to get approved for an orchiectomy if you had a real medical reason for
it, like testicular cancer. It�s insane to approve any serious procedure that
quickly, having just met a patient on a video call for the first time. But
that�s what happened.

We recorded the whole call. At no point did anyone at this health care
provider, which is called �Plume,� push back in any way. They didn�t suggest
that maybe, this was a rash course of action. They didn�t verify any of the
information Gregg provided, including his fake legal name. All �Plume� did
was insist that he pay $150. If Gregg did that, they promised to write him a
medically sound letter in support of life-altering surgery. That letter,
under the WPATH standards, is required for anyone trying to get transgender
surgery in the United States. You have to get one of these letters from a
healthcare provider and present it to your surgeon. And Plume rubber-stamped
Gregg�s letter in 22 minutes. And not all of that time was spent discussing
the surgery, by the way. Some of the conversation was about traffic, and the
weather.

We�ve uploaded footage of the call on Twitter. In this video call, Gregg
assumed the name �Chelsea Bussey.� He did not dress up as a woman. He didn�t
wear any women�s clothing or makeup. He didn�t go to Party City and dye his
hair blue. He just told them he identified as a woman and that he was taking
hormones prescribed by his father. Gregg couldn�t even pronounce the name of
the surgery he wanted, calling it an �orchi-dect-omy.� He claimed at one
point that the reason he wanted the surgery is that it would speed up his
nonexistent transition, which the Plume nurse said didn�t make any sense from
a medical perspective. But none of this raised any red flags for Plume. The
nurse told Gregg she wanted to write him the strongest letter she could.
Watch:

10/ Plume quickly scheduled Gregg for a video interview anyway. He
assumed the identity "Chelsea Bussey.� He didn�t even attempt to
pass. He badly mispronounced the name of the surgery he wanted. He
made it clear he didn't know what effect the surgery would have.
pic.twitter.com/ph8UbM3i6r

� Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023

11/ Nevertheless, Plume�s nurse practitioner said she wanted to
write the most "solid" letter possible to justify surgery. Gregg
tells her that he once wrote an essay in school about being a woman,
which everyone thought was ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/iY7Ec3Q1wd

� Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023

12/ Gregg also tells Plume�s nurse practitioner that his father has
been prescribing him hormones for years. The nurse doesn�t question
this in any way. Instead, she says that arrangement is �perfect.�
pic.twitter.com/YsB4BEkUpu

� Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023

A couple days after that interview, as we documented on Twitter, Plume sent
Gregg a letter diagnosing him with significant and ongoing gender dysphoria.
Therefore, Plume said, he was an �appropriate candidate for Orchiectomy.�
According to Plume, testicle removal would help Gregg make �significant
progress� in alleviating his dysphoria. Even after Gregg followed up with
text messages to Plume, explaining that he doesn�t have dysphoria, they
didn�t retract or amend that letter in any way.

13/ Three days later, Plume sent this letter to "Chelsea Bussey� �
who does not exist � saying he was experiencing "significant, ongoing
gender dysphoria.� The letter strongly recommended �Chelsea� for
testicle removal. pic.twitter.com/WzIMsjygS6

� Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023

There�s no excuse for that. Plume had multiple opportunities to tell the
truth in their letter, and they chose not to. In his intake form, Gregg
indicated he didn�t have dysphoria for 6 months or more. That means, under
the current version of the DSM, he never should have been diagnosed with it
in the first place. But Plume never once asked Gregg about this in his video
interview. Instead they just said he had dysphoria in his letter, which they
intended to be used by a surgeon who would then carve up Gregg�s testicles.

Why didn�t Plume amend the letter once they were made aware that Gregg didn�t
have dysphoria? As Plume�s nurse explained, �in order for the surgery to be
paid for,� the diagnosis would need to remain. In other words, insurance
companies won�t pay for the operation unless the letter contains a diagnosis
of gender dysphoria. That�s why Plume uses templates that include the gender
dysphoria diagnostic code. It appears that they plug whatever information
patients feed them into the template, whether or not those patients actually
have the diagnosis. The templates are provided by WPATH, by the way � Plume
admitted that to us.

It�s not hard to conclude that this operation is fraudulent, but what do
insurers think of it? What�s Aetna and United Healthcare�s position on paying
for surgeries based on cooked-up diagnostic codes? How about Cigna? We
understand those insurance companies work directly with Plume. What about
David Sacks, whose venture capital firm is one of many that�s funding Plume?
What are his thoughts on this? Is he aware this is happening? Those are good
questions.

But the problem is much bigger than Plume. They�re far from the only ones
doing this.

Folx, for example, is a major competitor of Plume. They�re in almost every
state in the country. They�re also extremely well-funded by venture
capitalists. Folx, like Plume, also sells letters that authorize surgeries
under the WPATH guidelines. On their website, Folx admits, �It�s quite
possible the information in a letter may not be specific to you. For example,
they may use a gender dysphoria diagnosis, but you really do not have
dysphoria� You may not fit this diagnostic code exactly, but in some cases,
the code is needed in order for insurers to pay for the surgery.� We reached
out to Folx to ask about this. They confirmed that a �diagnosis� � in scare
quotes � was necessary in order for insurance companies to pay out.

On 2023-06-09 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> One of the arguments you hear a lot in the debate over gender ideology,
> across the political spectrum, is that adults should be able to do what they
> want. This is the supposedly “moderate” position. Several presidential
> candidates believe it. Millions of Americans believe it, too. As long as you
> stay away from the kids, they tell you, then there’s no problem. The moment
> you hit 18-years-old, do what you want. “Live your truth.”
>
> It’s not hard to see why that position is tempting for so many people.
> Children obviously can’t consent to life-altering procedures, including
> genital mutilation and castration. Adults, on the other hand, are able to
> consent to a lot of things. They can vote, buy guns, and serve in the
> military. So, if they want to pay a doctor to carve up their bodies, then
> what’s the big deal? That’s the argument you hear again and again.
>
> No one really means it, though. And you know that because none of the people
> making that argument would use the same reasoning to justify, say,
> lobotomies. If you walked into a doctor’s office today and asked him to drill
> a hole in your head and sever your prefrontal cortex in order to make you
> feel better about your life, he’d say no. If he did it, he’d go to prison. No
> amount of informed consent — no matter how old you were — could possibly
> justify it. It’s barbaric. Tens of thousands of people’s lives were ruined by
> lobotomies. And everyone recognizes that now. No one’s marching in defense of
> “lobotomy-affirming care.”
>
> So, if you defend these gruesome “gender-affirming” procedures on adults,
> you’re not really saying that adults should be able to do what they want.
> You’re saying that, yes, people can change their sex if they want. You’re
> conceding that these procedures — slicing up a woman’s arm to make a fake
> penis, lopping off healthy breasts, grafting fake nipples onto patients’
> chests, et cetera — are medically reasonable. And in the absence of any kind
> of statistical data about positive long-term outcomes of these surgeries,
> you’re trusting the doctors to follow an established standard of care. You’re
> assuming they’re not going to just mutilate anyone who walks in the door,
> without regard for what happens to these people afterwards.
>
> The problem is that the entire industry of “gender affirming care” is a scam.
> We know that because we just spent weeks investigating the largest providers
> of so-called “trans healthcare” in the country. We went undercover at one of
> them.
>
> What we found is that there are no real “standards of care” governing any of
> this. To be clear, there are “standards of care” on paper, and they’re
> provided by the transgender activist group WPATH. WPATH’s standards are used
> by major hospitals in this country, including UCLA, UCSF, and Mass General,
> just to name a few.
>
> How rigorous are these standards, exactly? After a 22-minute video call, the
> largest “trans healthcare” provider in the country — carefully following the
> WPATH guidelines — approved one of my producers, Gregg Re, for an
> orchiectomy. That means testicle removal. Now, 22 minutes would be a record
> time to get approved for an orchiectomy if you had a real medical reason for
> it, like testicular cancer. It’s insane to approve any serious procedure that
> quickly, having just met a patient on a video call for the first time. But
> that’s what happened.
>
> We recorded the whole call. At no point did anyone at this health care
> provider, which is called “Plume,” push back in any way. They didn’t suggest
> that maybe, this was a rash course of action. They didn’t verify any of the
> information Gregg provided, including his fake legal name. All “Plume” did
> was insist that he pay $150. If Gregg did that, they promised to write him a
> medically sound letter in support of life-altering surgery. That letter,
> under the WPATH standards, is required for anyone trying to get transgender
> surgery in the United States. You have to get one of these letters from a
> healthcare provider and present it to your surgeon. And Plume rubber-stamped
> Gregg’s letter in 22 minutes. And not all of that time was spent discussing
> the surgery, by the way. Some of the conversation was about traffic, and the
> weather.
>
> We’ve uploaded footage of the call on Twitter. In this video call, Gregg
> assumed the name “Chelsea Bussey.” He did not dress up as a woman. He didn’t
> wear any women’s clothing or makeup. He didn’t go to Party City and dye his
> hair blue. He just told them he identified as a woman and that he was taking
> hormones prescribed by his father. Gregg couldn’t even pronounce the name of
> the surgery he wanted, calling it an “orchi-dect-omy.” He claimed at one
> point that the reason he wanted the surgery is that it would speed up his
> nonexistent transition, which the Plume nurse said didn’t make any sense from
> a medical perspective. But none of this raised any red flags for Plume. The
> nurse told Gregg she wanted to write him the strongest letter she could.
> Watch:
>
> 10/ Plume quickly scheduled Gregg for a video interview anyway. He
> assumed the identity "Chelsea Bussey.” He didn’t even attempt to
> pass. He badly mispronounced the name of the surgery he wanted. He
> made it clear he didn't know what effect the surgery would have.
> pic.twitter.com/ph8UbM3i6r
>
> — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> 11/ Nevertheless, Plume’s nurse practitioner said she wanted to
> write the most "solid" letter possible to justify surgery. Gregg
> tells her that he once wrote an essay in school about being a woman,
> which everyone thought was ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/iY7Ec3Q1wd
>
> — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> 12/ Gregg also tells Plume’s nurse practitioner that his father has
> been prescribing him hormones for years. The nurse doesn’t question
> this in any way. Instead, she says that arrangement is “perfect.”
> pic.twitter.com/YsB4BEkUpu
>
> — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> A couple days after that interview, as we documented on Twitter, Plume sent
> Gregg a letter diagnosing him with significant and ongoing gender dysphoria.
> Therefore, Plume said, he was an “appropriate candidate for Orchiectomy.”
> According to Plume, testicle removal would help Gregg make “significant
> progress” in alleviating his dysphoria. Even after Gregg followed up with
> text messages to Plume, explaining that he doesn’t have dysphoria, they
> didn’t retract or amend that letter in any way.
>
> 13/ Three days later, Plume sent this letter to "Chelsea Bussey” –
> who does not exist — saying he was experiencing "significant, ongoing
> gender dysphoria.” The letter strongly recommended “Chelsea” for
> testicle removal. pic.twitter.com/WzIMsjygS6
>
> — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> There’s no excuse for that. Plume had multiple opportunities to tell the
> truth in their letter, and they chose not to. In his intake form, Gregg
> indicated he didn’t have dysphoria for 6 months or more. That means, under
> the current version of the DSM, he never should have been diagnosed with it
> in the first place. But Plume never once asked Gregg about this in his video
> interview. Instead they just said he had dysphoria in his letter, which they
> intended to be used by a surgeon who would then carve up Gregg’s testicles.
>
> Why didn’t Plume amend the letter once they were made aware that Gregg didn’t
> have dysphoria? As Plume’s nurse explained, “in order for the surgery to be
> paid for,” the diagnosis would need to remain. In other words, insurance
> companies won’t pay for the operation unless the letter contains a diagnosis
> of gender dysphoria. That’s why Plume uses templates that include the gender
> dysphoria diagnostic code. It appears that they plug whatever information
> patients feed them into the template, whether or not those patients actually
> have the diagnosis. The templates are provided by WPATH, by the way — Plume
> admitted that to us.
>
> It’s not hard to conclude that this operation is fraudulent, but what do
> insurers think of it? What’s Aetna and United Healthcare’s position on paying
> for surgeries based on cooked-up diagnostic codes? How about Cigna? We
> understand those insurance companies work directly with Plume. What about
> David Sacks, whose venture capital firm is one of many that’s funding Plume?
> What are his thoughts on this? Is he aware this is happening? Those are good
> questions.
>
> But the problem is much bigger than Plume. They’re far from the only ones
> doing this.
>
> Folx, for example, is a major competitor of Plume. They’re in almost every
> state in the country. They’re also extremely well-funded by venture
> capitalists. Folx, like Plume, also sells letters that authorize surgeries
> under the WPATH guidelines. On their website, Folx admits, “It’s quite
> possible the information in a letter may not be specific to you. For example,
> they may use a gender dysphoria diagnosis, but you really do not have
> dysphoria… You may not fit this diagnostic code exactly, but in some cases,
> the code is needed in order for insurers to pay for the surgery.” We reached
> out to Folx to ask about this. They confirmed that a “diagnosis” — in scare
> quotes — was necessary in order for insurance companies to pay out.
>
> Again, that’s probably news to the insurance companies. But the bigger issue,
> of course, is what’s happening to the patients who are mutilated as part of
> this process. It’s not just Plume and Folx who are authorizing surgeries like
> this. There’s a whole network of doctors who crank out these letters. It’s
> called the Gender Affirmative Letter Access Project, or G.A.L.A.P.
>
> Think of the lives these doctors and these companies are destroying for
> profit. If they’ll approve Gregg for castration, they’ll approve anyone. Many
> of the luminaries in the field will admit that, by the way. On Twitter, we
> highlighted this training session from the Juniper Center, which is one of
> the largest gender therapy practices in the Chicago land area. Watch as the
> licensed clinical social worker, named Ari Groner, explains that she’ll
> rubber-stamp whatever letter patients want. She says she’ll even authorize a
> suicidal patient for surgery, because she’s not a “gatekeeper.” In fact,
> Groner says that if her patient is suicidal, that would just make the case
> for surgery even stronger. Listen to this:
>
> 2/ First, some background. Ari Groner is a licensed clinical social
> worker who educates doctors on “trans healthcare.” At a recent
> training session for the Juniper Center, Groner explained that she
> writes whatever letters her patients want, because she’s not a
> “gatekeeper.” pic.twitter.com/8CVUWiYetY
>
> — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> If you’re defending “gender affirming care” for adults, this is what you’re
> supporting. You’re saying it’s reasonable for medical professionals to listen
> to a suicidal patient, who isn’t thinking clearly, and approve them for
> surgical castration within minutes. You’re saying there should be no barriers
> to this kind of mutilation, whatsoever. At that point, why not bring back
> lobotomies? What’s the serious, principled argument against it?
>
> No serious person can defend this industry. It’s completely corrupted, at
> every level. It’s not just targeting children, although it’s certainly doing
> that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire “gender
> affirmation” industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
> lies. And we’ll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became so
> prominent in this field. It’s a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
> rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we’ve now
> revealed.
>
> The practical effect of these WPATH standards isn’t to protect patients.
> Instead, the WPATH standards protect doctors who butcher their patients.
> These doctors understand that they need to follow some “standard of care,” or
> else they’ll eventually get sued into the ground for malpractice by the
> patients they’re disfiguring. So medical providers point to the WPATH
> standards, and say, “look — we followed those standards. These gruesome
> surgeries are in fact legitimate medical care!”
>
> Now it’s time to put an end to this. Insurance companies should cut off these
> providers. Investors should stop funding this barbarism. And at the political
> level, we need laws so that any doctor who mutilates patients, or lies to
> insurance companies, goes to prison — regardless of the patients’ age.
> Florida recently passed a law outlawing, among other things, “trans
> telehealth” services. They require in-person visits for most of these
> procedures. That’s a start — which is why the media and the trans activists
> are furious about it. They’re probably going to sue to block that portion of
> the law, just like they blocked the part of the law outlawing child
> castration yesterday.
>
> But once people see the truth about what’s happening, the radical gender
> activists won’t win that fight. That’s why we published our investigation
> today. The truth is obvious and undeniable. Now that the “standards of care”
> have been exposed for what they are, there’s nothing to stop a flood of
> lawsuits that could shut down these butchers. We saw it in the U.K. with
> Tavistock. If something like that happens here, it could save tens of
> thousands of lives.
>
> This investigation is just one part of what we have planned for Pride Month.
> We’re going to expose the full extent of the depravity that you’re told to
> believe is “medically legitimate.” We’re going to show you the truth behind
> all the euphemisms. We’re going to reveal how exactly activists have managed
> to hijack the medical profession so they can mutilate patients for profit.
>
> This is just the beginning.
>
That is truly and deeply disturbing!

In article <u5v2lo$1stnu$4@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> One of the arguments you hear a lot in the debate over gender ideology,
> across the political spectrum, is that adults should be able to do what they
> want. This is the supposedly "moderate" position. Several presidential
> candidates believe it. Millions of Americans believe it, too. As long as you
> stay away from the kids, they tell you, then there�s no problem. The moment
> you hit 18-years-old, do what you want. "Live your truth."
>
> It's not hard to see why that position is tempting for so many people.
> Children obviously can't consent to life-altering procedures, including
> genital mutilation and castration. Adults, on the other hand, are able to
> consent to a lot of things. They can vote, buy guns, and serve in the
> military. So, if they want to pay a doctor to carve up their bodies, then
> what's the big deal? That's the argument you hear again and again.
>
> No one really means it, though. And you know that because none of the people
> making that argument would use the same reasoning to justify, say,
> lobotomies. If you walked into a doctor's office today and asked him to drill
> a hole in your head and sever your prefrontal cortex in order to make you
> feel better about your life, he'd say no. If he did it, he'd go to prison. No
> amount of informed consent-- no matter how old you were-- could possibly
> justify it. It's barbaric. Tens of thousands of people's lives were ruined by
> lobotomies. And everyone recognizes that now. No one's marching in defense of
> "lobotomy-affirming care".

Same with healthy limbs. If you walked into the hospital and asked to
have your left arm amputated because you identify as disabled and having
a healthy arm hanging off your body constantly sends conflicting
messages to your brain, so you need it amputated to resolve your
dysphoria, the staff would refuse and likely refer you for a psychiatric
consult as a possible danger to yourself.

And that's not just an analogy, either. Following fast on the heels of
the whole trans-testicle fad, we now have perfectly healthy people who
say they have a dysphoria that makes them identify as disabled and who
want massive, radical, irreversible, life-endangering surgeries to make
their bodies conform to how they "feel".

Oh, and they want either the government or insurance companies to be
forced to pay for it. In other words, one way or the other, you and I
will be forced to subsidize this utter lunacy, the same way we're being
forced to with the troons.

> So, if you defend these gruesome "gender-affirming" procedures on adults,
> you're not really saying that adults should be able to do what they want.
> You're saying that, yes, people can change their sex if they want. You're
> conceding that these procedures-- slicing up a woman's arm to make a fake
> penis, lopping off healthy breasts, grafting fake nipples onto patients�
> chests, et cetera-- are medically reasonable. And in the absence of any kind
> of statistical data about positive long-term outcomes of these surgeries,
> you're trusting the doctors to follow an established standard of care. You're
> assuming they're not going to just mutilate anyone who walks in the door,
> without regard for what happens to these people afterwards.
>
> The problem is that the entire industry of "gender affirming care" is a scam.
> We know that because we just spent weeks investigating the largest providers
> of so-called "trans healthcare" in the country. We went undercover at one of
> them.
>
> What we found is that there are no real "standards of care" governing any of
> this. To be clear, there are standards of care on paper, and they're
> provided by the transgender activist group WPATH. WPATH's standards are used
> by major hospitals in this country, including UCLA, UCSF, and Mass General,
> just to name a few.
>
> How rigorous are these standards, exactly? After a 22-minute video call, the
> largest "trans healthcare" provider in the country-- carefully following the
> WPATH guidelines-- approved one of my producers, Gregg Re, for an
> orchiectomy. That means testicle removal. Now, 22 minutes would be a record
> time to get approved for an orchiectomy if you had a real medical reason for
> it, like testicular cancer. It's insane to approve any serious procedure that
> quickly, having just met a patient on a video call for the first time. But
> that's what happened.

If I injured myself riding a bike and told the doctor I needed ACL
surgery, how much you want to bet I'd be subjected to a lot more than 22
minutes of medical investigation before surgery was approved? And how
much you want to bet I couldn't get away with doing it over Zoom? That
an in-person examination would be required before they started prepping
the surgical bay?

> We recorded the whole call. At no point did anyone at this health care
> provider, which is called Plume, push back in any way. They didn't suggest
> that maybe this was a rash course of action. They didn't verify any of the
> information Gregg provided, including his fake legal name. All Plume did
> was insist that he pay $150. If Gregg did that, they promised to write him a
> medically sound letter in support of life-altering surgery. That letter,
> under the WPATH standards, is required for anyone trying to get transgender
> surgery in the United States. You have to get one of these letters from a
> healthcare provider and present it to your surgeon. And Plume rubber-stamped
> Gregg's letter in 22 minutes. And not all of that time was spent discussing
> the surgery, by the way. Some of the conversation was about traffic and the
> weather.

Sounds like someone needs to go to jail.

> We've uploaded footage of the call on Twitter. In this video call, Gregg
> assumed the name "Chelsea Bussey". He did not dress up as a woman. He didn't
> wear any women's clothing or makeup. He didn't go to Party City and dye his
> hair blue. He just told them he identified as a woman and that he was taking
> hormones prescribed by his father. Gregg couldn't even pronounce the name of
> the surgery he wanted, calling it an "orchi-dect-omy". He claimed at one
> point that the reason he wanted the surgery is that it would speed up his
> nonexistent transition, which the Plume nurse said didn't make any sense from
> a medical perspective. But none of this raised any red flags for Plume. The
> nurse told Gregg she wanted to write him the strongest letter she could.
> Watch:
>
> 10/ Plume quickly scheduled Gregg for a video interview anyway. He
> assumed the identity "Chelsea Bussey". He didn�t even attempt to
> pass. He badly mispronounced the name of the surgery he wanted. He
> made it clear he didn't know what effect the surgery would have.
> pic.twitter.com/ph8UbM3i6r
>
> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> 11/ Nevertheless, Plume's nurse practitioner said she wanted to
> write the most "solid" letter possible to justify surgery. Gregg
> tells her that he once wrote an essay in school about being a woman,
> which everyone thought was ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/iY7Ec3Q1wd
>
> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> 12/ Gregg also tells Plume's nurse practitioner that his father has
> been prescribing him hormones for years. The nurse doesn't question
> this in any way. Instead, she says that arrangement is "perfect".
> pic.twitter.com/YsB4BEkUpu
>
> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> A couple days after that interview, as we documented on Twitter, Plume sent
> Gregg a letter diagnosing him with significant and ongoing gender dysphoria.
> Therefore, Plume said, he was an "appropriate candidate for Orchiectomy".
> According to Plume, testicle removal would help Gregg make "significant
> progress" in alleviating his dysphoria. Even after Gregg followed up with
> text messages to Plume, explaining that he doesn't have dysphoria, they
> didn't retract or amend that letter in any way.
>
> 13/ Three days later, Plume sent this letter to "Chelsea Bussey"--
> who does not exist-- saying he was experiencing "significant, ongoing
> gender dysphoria". The letter strongly recommended Chelsea for
> testicle removal. pic.twitter.com/WzIMsjygS6
>
> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>
> There's no excuse for that. Plume had multiple opportunities to tell the
> truth in their letter, and they chose not to. In his intake form, Gregg
> indicated he didn't have dysphoria for 6 months or more. That means, under
> the current version of the DSM, he never should have been diagnosed with it
> in the first place. But Plume never once asked Gregg about this in his video
> interview. Instead they just said he had dysphoria in his letter, which they
> intended to be used by a surgeon who would then carve up Gregg's testicles.

atropos@mac.com wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>> One of the arguments you hear a lot in the debate over gender ideology,
>> across the political spectrum, is that adults should be able to do what they
>> want. This is the supposedly "moderate" position. Several presidential
>> candidates believe it. Millions of Americans believe it, too. As long as you
>> stay away from the kids, they tell you, then there�s no problem. The moment
>> you hit 18-years-old, do what you want. "Live your truth."
>>
>> It's not hard to see why that position is tempting for so many people.
>> Children obviously can't consent to life-altering procedures, including
>> genital mutilation and castration. Adults, on the other hand, are able to
>> consent to a lot of things. They can vote, buy guns, and serve in the
>> military. So, if they want to pay a doctor to carve up their bodies, then
>> what's the big deal? That's the argument you hear again and again.
>>
>> No one really means it, though. And you know that because none of the people
>> making that argument would use the same reasoning to justify, say,
>> lobotomies. If you walked into a doctor's office today and asked him to drill
>> a hole in your head and sever your prefrontal cortex in order to make you
>> feel better about your life, he'd say no. If he did it, he'd go to prison. No
>> amount of informed consent-- no matter how old you were-- could possibly
>> justify it. It's barbaric. Tens of thousands of people's lives were ruined by
>> lobotomies. And everyone recognizes that now. No one's marching in defense of
>> "lobotomy-affirming care".
>
>Same with healthy limbs. If you walked into the hospital and asked to
>have your left arm amputated because you identify as disabled and having
>a healthy arm hanging off your body constantly sends conflicting
>messages to your brain, so you need it amputated to resolve your
>dysphoria, the staff would refuse and likely refer you for a psychiatric
>consult as a possible danger to yourself.
>
>And that's not just an analogy, either. Following fast on the heels of
>the whole trans-testicle fad, we now have perfectly healthy people who
>say they have a dysphoria that makes them identify as disabled and who
>want massive, radical, irreversible, life-endangering surgeries to make
>their bodies conform to how they "feel".
>
>Oh, and they want either the government or insurance companies to be
>forced to pay for it. In other words, one way or the other, you and I
>will be forced to subsidize this utter lunacy, the same way we're being
>forced to with the troons.
>
>> So, if you defend these gruesome "gender-affirming" procedures on adults,
>> you're not really saying that adults should be able to do what they want.
>> You're saying that, yes, people can change their sex if they want. You're
>> conceding that these procedures-- slicing up a woman's arm to make a fake
>> penis, lopping off healthy breasts, grafting fake nipples onto patients�
>> chests, et cetera-- are medically reasonable. And in the absence of any kind
>> of statistical data about positive long-term outcomes of these surgeries,
>> you're trusting the doctors to follow an established standard of care. You're
>> assuming they're not going to just mutilate anyone who walks in the door,
>> without regard for what happens to these people afterwards.
>>
>> The problem is that the entire industry of "gender affirming care" is a scam.
>> We know that because we just spent weeks investigating the largest providers
>> of so-called "trans healthcare" in the country. We went undercover at one of
>> them.
>>
>> What we found is that there are no real "standards of care" governing any of
>> this. To be clear, there are standards of care on paper, and they're
>> provided by the transgender activist group WPATH. WPATH's standards are used
>> by major hospitals in this country, including UCLA, UCSF, and Mass General,
>> just to name a few.
>>
>> How rigorous are these standards, exactly? After a 22-minute video call, the
>> largest "trans healthcare" provider in the country-- carefully following the
>> WPATH guidelines-- approved one of my producers, Gregg Re, for an
>> orchiectomy. That means testicle removal. Now, 22 minutes would be a record
>> time to get approved for an orchiectomy if you had a real medical reason for
>> it, like testicular cancer. It's insane to approve any serious procedure that
>> quickly, having just met a patient on a video call for the first time. But
>> that's what happened.
>
>If I injured myself riding a bike and told the doctor I needed ACL
>surgery, how much you want to bet I'd be subjected to a lot more than 22
>minutes of medical investigation before surgery was approved? And how
>much you want to bet I couldn't get away with doing it over Zoom? That
>an in-person examination would be required before they started prepping
>the surgical bay?
>
>> We recorded the whole call. At no point did anyone at this health care
>> provider, which is called Plume, push back in any way. They didn't suggest
>> that maybe this was a rash course of action. They didn't verify any of the
>> information Gregg provided, including his fake legal name. All Plume did
>> was insist that he pay $150. If Gregg did that, they promised to write him a
>> medically sound letter in support of life-altering surgery. That letter,
>> under the WPATH standards, is required for anyone trying to get transgender
>> surgery in the United States. You have to get one of these letters from a
>> healthcare provider and present it to your surgeon. And Plume rubber-stamped
>> Gregg's letter in 22 minutes. And not all of that time was spent discussing
>> the surgery, by the way. Some of the conversation was about traffic and the
>> weather.
>
>Sounds like someone needs to go to jail.
>
>> We've uploaded footage of the call on Twitter. In this video call, Gregg
>> assumed the name "Chelsea Bussey". He did not dress up as a woman. He didn't
>> wear any women's clothing or makeup. He didn't go to Party City and dye his
>> hair blue. He just told them he identified as a woman and that he was taking
>> hormones prescribed by his father. Gregg couldn't even pronounce the name of
>> the surgery he wanted, calling it an "orchi-dect-omy". He claimed at one
>> point that the reason he wanted the surgery is that it would speed up his
>> nonexistent transition, which the Plume nurse said didn't make any sense from
>> a medical perspective. But none of this raised any red flags for Plume. The
>> nurse told Gregg she wanted to write him the strongest letter she could.
>> Watch:
>>
>> 10/ Plume quickly scheduled Gregg for a video interview anyway. He
>> assumed the identity "Chelsea Bussey". He didn�t even attempt to
>> pass. He badly mispronounced the name of the surgery he wanted. He
>> made it clear he didn't know what effect the surgery would have.
>> pic.twitter.com/ph8UbM3i6r
>>
>> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>>
>> 11/ Nevertheless, Plume's nurse practitioner said she wanted to
>> write the most "solid" letter possible to justify surgery. Gregg
>> tells her that he once wrote an essay in school about being a woman,
>> which everyone thought was ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/iY7Ec3Q1wd
>>
>> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>>
>> 12/ Gregg also tells Plume's nurse practitioner that his father has
>> been prescribing him hormones for years. The nurse doesn't question
>> this in any way. Instead, she says that arrangement is "perfect".
>> pic.twitter.com/YsB4BEkUpu
>>
>> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>>
>> A couple days after that interview, as we documented on Twitter, Plume sent
>> Gregg a letter diagnosing him with significant and ongoing gender dysphoria.
>> Therefore, Plume said, he was an "appropriate candidate for Orchiectomy".
>> According to Plume, testicle removal would help Gregg make "significant
>> progress" in alleviating his dysphoria. Even after Gregg followed up with
>> text messages to Plume, explaining that he doesn't have dysphoria, they
>> didn't retract or amend that letter in any way.
>>
>> 13/ Three days later, Plume sent this letter to "Chelsea Bussey"--
>> who does not exist-- saying he was experiencing "significant, ongoing
>> gender dysphoria". The letter strongly recommended Chelsea for
>> testicle removal. pic.twitter.com/WzIMsjygS6
>>
>> � Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) June 7, 2023
>>
>> There's no excuse for that. Plume had multiple opportunities to tell the
>> truth in their letter, and they chose not to. In his intake form, Gregg
>> indicated he didn't have dysphoria for 6 months or more. That means, under
>> the current version of the DSM, he never should have been diagnosed with it
>> in the first place. But Plume never once asked Gregg about this in his video
>> interview. Instead they just said he had dysphoria in his letter, which they
>> intended to be used by a surgeon who would then carve up Gregg's testicles.
>
>I wonder how moviePig feels about this?
>
>> Why didn't Plume amend the letter once they were made aware that Gregg didn't
>> have dysphoria? As Plume's nurse explained, "in order for the surgery to be
>> paid for," the diagnosis would need to remain. In other words, insurance
>> companies won't pay for the operation unless the letter contains a diagnosis
>> of gender dysphoria. That's why Plume uses templates that include the gender
>> dysphoria diagnostic code. It appears that they plug whatever information
>> patients feed them into the template, whether or not those patients actually
>> have the diagnosis. The templates are provided by WPATH, by the way-- Plume
>> admitted that to us.
>
>So it's not only immoral and life-endangering, but it's insurance fraud,
>too!
>
>Isn't all this trans-testicle stuff so wonderful?
>
>> It's not hard to conclude that this operation is fraudulent, but what do
>> insurers think of it? What's Aetna and United Healthcare's position on paying
>> for surgeries based on cooked-up diagnostic codes? How about Cigna? We
>> understand those insurance companies work directly with Plume. What about
>> David Sacks, whose venture capital firm is one of many that's funding Plume?
>> What are his thoughts on this? Is he aware this is happening? Those are good
>> questions.
>>
>> But the problem is much bigger than Plume. They're far from the only ones
>> doing this.
>>
>> Folx, for example, is a major competitor of Plume. They're in almost every
>> state in the country. They're also extremely well-funded by venture
>> capitalists. Folx, like Plume, also sells letters that authorize surgeries
>> under the WPATH guidelines. On their website, Folx admits, "It's quite
>> possible the information in a letter may not be specific to you. For example,
>> they may use a gender dysphoria diagnosis, but you really do not have
>> dysphoria. You may not fit this diagnostic code exactly, but in some cases,
>> the code is needed in order for insurers to pay for the surgery."
>
>In other words, "We'll probably have to lie so that we can bilk the
>insurance company for the cost of performing this surgical horror show
>on you."
>
>> We reached out to Folx to ask about this. They confirmed that a
>> "diagnosis"-- in scare quotes-- was necessary in order for insurance
>> companies to pay out.
>>
>> Again, that's probably news to the insurance companies. But the bigger issue,
>> of course, is what's happening to the patients who are mutilated as part of
>> this process. It's not just Plume and Folx who are authorizing surgeries like
>> this. There's a whole network of doctors who crank out these letters. It's
>> called the Gender Affirmative Letter Access Project, or G.A.L.A.P.
>
>Holy shit. They've actually created an official organization whose sole
>purpose is to openly commit insurance fraud.
>
>> Think of the lives these doctors and these companies are destroying for
>> profit. If they'll approve Gregg for castration, they'll approve anyone.
>> Many of the luminaries in the field will admit that, by the way. On Twitter,
>> we highlighted this training session from the Juniper Center, which is one
>> of the largest gender therapy practices in the Chicagoland area. Watch as the
>> licensed clinical social worker, named Ari Groner, explains that she'll
>> rubber-stamp whatever letter patients want. She says she'll even authorize a
>> suicidal patient for surgery, because she's not a "gatekeeper". In fact,
>> Groner says that if her patient is suicidal, that would just make the case
>> for surgery even stronger.
>
>> If you're defending "gender affirming care" for adults, this is what you're
>> supporting. You're saying it's reasonable for medical professionals to listen
>> to a suicidal patient, who isn't thinking clearly, and approve them for
>> surgical castration within minutes. You're saying there should be no barriers
>> to this kind of mutilation, whatsoever. At that point, why not bring back
>> lobotomies? What's the serious, principled argument against it?
>>
>> No serious person can defend this industry. It's completely corrupted, at
>> every level.
>
>This is why inquiring minds want to know moviePig's thoughts on this,
>since he (one assumes) considers himself a serious person and he has
>defended this industry in the past.

> Ubiquitous
>
> No serious person can defend this industry. It’s completely corrupted, at
> every level. It’s not just targeting children, although it’s certainly doing
> that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire “gender
> affirmation” industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
> lies. And we’ll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
> so prominent in this field. It’s a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
> rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we’ve
> now revealed.

Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
and don't see the link when you put it in the header.

On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:04:08 -0700, Ed Stasiak wrote:

> > Ubiquitous
> >
> > No serious person can defend this industry. It´s completely corrupted, at
> > every level. It´s not just targeting children, although it´s certainly doing
> > that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire "gender
> > affirmation" industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
> > lies. And we´ll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
> > so prominent in this field. It´s a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
> > rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we´ve
> > now revealed.
>
> Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
> and don't see the link when you put it in the header.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-just-proved-the-gender-affirming-care-industry-is-a-scam

On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:51:37 -0700, Pluted Pup wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:04:08 -0700, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>
> > > Ubiquitous
> > >
> > > No serious person can defend this industry. It´s completely corrupted, at
> > > every level. It´s not just targeting children, although it´s certainly doing
> > > that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire "gender
> > > affirmation" industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
> > > lies. And we´ll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
> > > so prominent in this field. It´s a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
> > > rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we´ve
> > > now revealed.
> >
> > Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
> > and don't see the link when you put it in the header.
>
> https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-just-proved-the-gender-affirming-care-industry-is-a-scam

Sorry, the link is a scam because it's pay-to-read. Ubi should
have noted it in his/her link.

On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 12:46:01 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

> > > This is why inquiring minds want to know moviePig's thoughts on this,
> > > since he (one assumes) considers himself a serious person and he has
> > > defended this industry in the past.
> >
> > I am sure FPP will put in his two cents as well.

What does the New York Times or the Washington Post
say about the subject? That is their opinion, the
same as the unimpeachable press.

edstasiak1067@gmail.com wrote:
> Ubiquitous

>> No serious person can defend this industry. It's completely corrupted, at
>> every level. It's not just targeting children, although it's certainly doing
>> that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire “gender
>> affirmation” industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
>> lies. And we'll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
>> so prominent in this field. It's a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
>> rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we've
>> now revealed.
>
>Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
>and don't see the link when you put it in the header.

Gladly! Can one no longer view headers there?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-just-proved-the-gender-affirming-care-industry-is-a-scam

There is a paywall for this particular article, but it is a trivial matter to bypass.

Here is the Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1666496328224890880

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On 2023-06-10 3:14 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> edstasiak1067@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ubiquitous
>
>>> No serious person can defend this industry. It's completely corrupted, at
>>> every level. It's not just targeting children, although it's certainly doing
>>> that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire “gender
>>> affirmation” industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
>>> lies. And we'll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
>>> so prominent in this field. It's a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
>>> rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we've
>>> now revealed.
>>
>> Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
>> and don't see the link when you put it in the header.
>
> Gladly! Can one no longer view headers there?
>
> https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-just-proved-the-gender-affirming-care-industry-is-a-scam
>
> There is a paywall for this particular article, but it is a trivial matter to bypass.
>
If it's trivial, maybe you could explain the "trick"? My mind-reading
leaves a lot to be desired....

> Here is the Twitter thread:
> https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1666496328224890880
>
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>

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no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
> On 2023-06-10 3:14 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> edstasiak1067@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous

>>>> No serious person can defend this industry. It's completely corrupted, at
>>>> every level. It's not just targeting children, although it's certainly doing
>>>> that as well. The underlying claims and promises of the entire “gender
>>>> affirmation” industry are lies, and the lies are propped up by even more
>>>> lies. And we'll have much more on WPATH soon, and how they became
>>>> so prominent in this field. It's a truly disturbing story. Their supposedly
>>>> rigorous standards of care are purpose-built to be manipulated, as we've
>>>> now revealed.
>>>
>>> Do you have a link to the article? I use GoogleGroups
>>> and don't see the link when you put it in the header.
>>
>> Gladly! Can one no longer view headers there?
>>
>> https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-just-proved-the-gender-affirming-care-industry-is-a-scam
>>
>> There is a paywall for this particular article, but it is a trivial matter to bypass.
>
>If it's trivial, maybe you could explain the "trick"? My mind-reading
>leaves a lot to be desired....

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