After an arduous workout, I watched:

Nothing.

What did you watch?

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:

> What did you watch?

Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
I will wait for shawn's separate thread on this to comment more.
But this was an incredibly anticlimactic (and unsatisfying) finale.
The one good thing I can say about it is that, for once, the "Past"
(2009) segments were kept to the absolute minimum.

My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN) - I was half-right - the blurb
describing this flick did describe event that happen in about the first
5 minutes of the film. But what I got wrong is the blurb was describing
not the titular "husband" in the film, but the film's *villain*!! No
wonder it didn't make any sense!
Anyway, this was OK.
Married dude has an affair at a conference. The woman he had the
affair with, who is also married, admits the affair to her husband, and
in the ensuing melee she falls down the stairs and dies. (So, it
unclear if this should be considered "murder" or "accidental homicide".)
Now the guy with the dead wife wants revenge! REVENGE!! and is
determined to ruin the life of the married dude who had the affair.
This plays out about like you'd expect.

Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).

I *will* get back to this!

> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN) - I was half-right - the blurb
> describing this flick did describe event that happen in about the first
> 5 minutes of the film. But what I got wrong is the blurb was describing
> not the titular "husband" in the film, but the film's *villain*!! No
> wonder it didn't make any sense!
>   Anyway, this was OK.
>   Married dude has an affair at a conference. The woman he had the
> affair with, who is also married, admits the affair to her husband, and
> in the ensuing melee she falls down the stairs and dies. (So, it unclear
> if this should be considered "murder" or "accidental homicide".)
>   Now the guy with the dead wife wants revenge! REVENGE!! and is
> determined to ruin the life of the married dude who had the affair.
>   This plays out about like you'd expect.
>
> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>
>

This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:

Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
lord's son from a rival.

Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel. Chris Hemsworth returns
this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison where
the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to live
there with him.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
trial for being genetically engineered. I liked that the prosecuting
attorney was a Vulcan, and after Una's emotionally charged speech he
just got up and blew it off with, "That was a very emotional speech."

Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - "Frank vs. Russia" - For reasons I
must have missed Frank cheats at chess all his way up to playing a Russian.

Superman & Lois - "Injustice" - Penultimate episode introduces Lex
Luthor (Michael Cudlitz) as a new antagonist. He's released from prison
after spending 15 years locked up on false charges that Lois helped to
spread. And he's a little annoyed at her. A little annoyed...

Family Guy - I caught up and finished the season.

The Walking Dead - "The Rotten Core," "Trust," and "Acts of God" -
Episodes 14-16 from 2022. I said I'd eventually get back to the show and
I finally did! I was completely lost with the first one but watching 3
back to back helped a lot with following what was going on. I need to
force myself to keep watching so I can follow along with the plot.

Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson regular
Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his kids to
"Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a convention.
While there things are thrown into chaos after an alien briefly makes
an appearance. This movie has a framing device where the movie itself
is actually a play being performed but instead of taking place on a
stage, the movie audience see it as an actual movie. Although a
hyper-realized movie with a very thin line between reality and the
fictional world of the play. This has to be the most Wes Anderson movie
he's ever unleashed! It's almost a parody of Wes Anderson movies. I'll
add there is a scene in this movie where a nuclear bomb is detonated.
And about that all I will say is Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" has
*nothing* to worry about it.

As an aside, this had to have been one of the worst viewing experiences
I've had in a theater. There were two teens sitting a few seats from me
and they clearly did not want to be there. I don't know if there
parents dropped them off and used the movie as a babysitter or what.
But they were obnoxiously loud talking, kicking the railing, getting up
out their seats. They were clearly old enough to know better than to
act like that in a public theater, but then again plenty of adults have
done the same or worse.

In article <u74eg6$3otbg$2@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
> trial for being genetically engineered.

How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
done *to* them by someone else?

> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson regular
> Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his kids to
> "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a convention.
> While there things are thrown into chaos after an alien briefly makes
> an appearance. This movie has a framing device where the movie itself
> is actually a play being performed but instead of taking place on a
> stage, the movie audience see it as an actual movie. Although a
> hyper-realized movie with a very thin line between reality and the
> fictional world of the play. This has to be the most Wes Anderson movie
> he's ever unleashed! It's almost a parody of Wes Anderson movies. I'll
> add there is a scene in this movie where a nuclear bomb is detonated.
> And about that all I will say is Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" has
> *nothing* to worry about it.

I was hoping you'd see this so I could determine what the hell it was
actually about and whether it was worth seeing or not. So thank you for
your service.

On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:

> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>
> I *will* get back to this!
>
>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>
>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>
> This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>
>
> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
> lord's son from a rival.
>
> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel. Chris Hemsworth returns
> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
> live there with him.

Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
the two films you thought was better?

(And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in
RAT linked to a recent article talking about it.)

> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
> to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.

Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
is dropping right now.)

> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson
> regular Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his
> kids to "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a
> convention.

I am about 100% sure I would hate this - Wes Anderson movies are not my
thing at all... [shrug]

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

On 2023-06-23 15:48:39 +0000, BTR1701 said:

> In article <u74eg6$3otbg$2@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>> trial for being genetically engineered.
>
> How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
> criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
> done *to* them by someone else?

In that vein, this is directly relevant!!

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1672017311631396865

>> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson regular
>> Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his kids to
>> "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a convention.
>> While there things are thrown into chaos after an alien briefly makes
>> an appearance. This movie has a framing device where the movie itself
>> is actually a play being performed but instead of taking place on a
>> stage, the movie audience see it as an actual movie. Although a
>> hyper-realized movie with a very thin line between reality and the
>> fictional world of the play. This has to be the most Wes Anderson movie
>> he's ever unleashed! It's almost a parody of Wes Anderson movies. I'll
>> add there is a scene in this movie where a nuclear bomb is detonated.
>> And about that all I will say is Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" has
>> *nothing* to worry about it.
>
> I was hoping you'd see this so I could determine what the hell it was
> actually about and whether it was worth seeing or not. So thank you for
> your service.

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <u74eg6$3otbg$2@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>> trial for being genetically engineered.
>
> How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
> criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
> done *to* them by someone else?
>

Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.

TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
really half Romulan.

>> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson regular
>> Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his kids to
>> "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a convention.
>> While there things are thrown into chaos after an alien briefly makes
>> an appearance. This movie has a framing device where the movie itself
>> is actually a play being performed but instead of taking place on a
>> stage, the movie audience see it as an actual movie. Although a
>> hyper-realized movie with a very thin line between reality and the
>> fictional world of the play. This has to be the most Wes Anderson movie
>> he's ever unleashed! It's almost a parody of Wes Anderson movies. I'll
>> add there is a scene in this movie where a nuclear bomb is detonated.
>> And about that all I will say is Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" has
>> *nothing* to worry about it.
>
> I was hoping you'd see this so I could determine what the hell it was
> actually about and whether it was worth seeing or not. So thank you for
> your service.

I really have to emphasize the movie is very meta and breaks the 4th
wall constantly. It sort of felt like someone found a silly high school
play and decided to film it as a low budget movie with an all star cast.

It looks cheesy, but it's supposed to look cheesy.

On 6/23/2023 10:10 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>
>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>
>> I *will* get back to this!
>>
>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>
>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>
>> This will be a multi-day catch up.  I watched:
>>
>>
>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>> lord's son from a rival.
>>
>> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel.  Chris Hemsworth returns
>> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
>> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
>> live there with him.
>
> Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
> the two films you thought was better?
>

I don't know. They seemed about the same. I know in your review you
liked the second one more. I guess I an go with that.

> (And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in RAT
> linked to a recent article talking about it.)
>
>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to
>> Earth to handle a Skrull invasion.  Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>
> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I will
> "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that is
> dropping right now.)
>
>> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>> Anderson.  It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson
>> regular Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes
>> his kids to "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at
>> a convention.
>
> I am about 100% sure I would hate this - Wes Anderson movies are not my
> thing at all...  [shrug]
>
>

If you don't like Wes Anderson you need to stay far, far away from this
movie! Watching this is like injecting a Wes Anderson movie straight
into your veins. He wasn't even trying to do anything different from
his usual schitct. Although I guess maybe the sci-fi aspect with the
alien was different, but even that got Wes Andersonized.

I forgot, I also watched:

Silo (AppleTV+) - "The Getaway" - Penultimate answer. Juliette is still
on the run but she's able to find a safe place where the audience can
get some exposition, I mean answers. I liked the episode but with only
one episode left I don't see how this show is getting resolved. I guess
that's why there's a season 2 on the way.

In article <u74eg6$3otbg$2@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:

>Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson regular
>Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his kids to
>"Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a convention.

I participated in a survey for that movie but TBH, I have no recollection of
it now, tho I told them I wouldn't watch it.

--
Let's go Brandon!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 08:41:49 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
<arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>
>I *will* get back to this!

I'm in the same boat. Haven't got to the finale since I've been tied
up doing other things so my TV watching this week has been severely
limited.

>This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>
>
>Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>lord's son from a rival.

Another movie that I started and liked but ended up stopping and not
getting back to it.

>
>Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.

Another show I need to get to. Did read a bunch of reviews that didn't
like the show because they thought it was going to be one thing and it
seems to be another. From what I gathered the show (at least in the
first episode) seems to be more of a spy show, while the ads suggest
it being more of an action show.

On 2023-06-23 17:10:13 +0000, Ian J. Ball said:

> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>
>> I *will* get back to this!
>>
>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>
>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>
>> This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>>
>>
>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>> to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>
> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
> will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
> is dropping right now.)

I remembered what the other show was - it's season #2 of "Cruel Summer"
(SQUIGGLE!!!1!11!!).

Ian (I may also go back and watch "The Watchful Eye"
(SQUIGGLE!!!1!11!!) at some point.)

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>>>Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>>>trial for being genetically engineered.

>>How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
>>criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
>>done *to* them by someone else?

>Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
>had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
>But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
>with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.

>TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
>lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
>really half Romulan.

The only way that's comparable would be if there's a claim that the
genetic enhancement has national security implications. Does it?

Half Romulan half human living in either society, one is totally fucked.
Yes, I remember the stupid Denise Crosby episode. I hated the backstory.

Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>
>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>
>> I *will* get back to this!
>>
>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>
>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>
>> This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>>
>>
>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>> lord's son from a rival.
>>
>> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel. Chris Hemsworth returns
>> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
>> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
>> live there with him.
>
> Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
> the two films you thought was better?
>
> (And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in
> RAT linked to a recent article talking about it.)

Oooo, oooo, me, me!!!

>
>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>> to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>
> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
> will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
> is dropping right now.)

The last episode won’t drop until the end of the month.

Serious question. Since silo has been renewed, are you willing to watch the
first season while waiting for the second or are you going to wait for the
whole series to drop?

>
>> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson
>> regular Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes his
>> kids to "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at a
>> convention.
>
> I am about 100% sure I would hate this - Wes Anderson movies are not my
> thing at all... [shrug]
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 2023-06-23 22:56:07 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>
>>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>
>>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>>
>>> I *will* get back to this!
>>>
>>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>>
>>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>>
>>> This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>>>
>>>
>>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>>> lord's son from a rival.
>>>
>>> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel. Chris Hemsworth returns
>>> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
>>> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
>>> live there with him.
>>
>> Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
>> the two films you thought was better?
>>
>> (And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in
>> RAT linked to a recent article talking about it.)
>
> Oooo, oooo, me, me!!!

I couldn't remember... [blush]

>>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>>> to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>>
>> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
>> will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
>> is dropping right now.)
>
> The last episode won’t drop until the end of the month.
>
> Serious question. Since silo has been renewed, are you willing to watch the
> first season while waiting for the second or are you going to wait for the
> whole series to drop?

I plan to watch "Silo" season #1 some time around the end of
June/beginning of July. I'm not going to wait until season #2.

(By the same token I will probably re-watch "Rogue One", and maybe "A
New Dope!", soon - I'm not going to wait until season #2 of "Andor" in
August 2024!!)

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 08:41:49 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
> <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>
>> I *will* get back to this!
>
> I'm in the same boat. Haven't got to the finale since I've been tied
> up doing other things so my TV watching this week has been severely
> limited.
>
>> This will be a multi-day catch up. I watched:
>>
>>
>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>> lord's son from a rival.
>
> Another movie that I started and liked but ended up stopping and not
> getting back to it.
>
>>
>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>> to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>
> Another show I need to get to. Did read a bunch of reviews that didn't
> like the show because they thought it was going to be one thing and it
> seems to be another. From what I gathered the show (at least in the
> first episode) seems to be more of a spy show, while the ads suggest
> it being more of an action show.
>

It’s hard to tell what it is so far except that it’s sort of unpleasant.
It’s so spoiler ridden it’s all but impossible to discuss. Only one episode
out of six is out so far so you have more than a month before you even need
to start watching it.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>>>> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>>>> trial for being genetically engineered.
>
>>> How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
>>> criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
>>> done *to* them by someone else?
>
>> Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
>> had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
>> But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
>> with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.
>
>> TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
>> lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
>> really half Romulan.
>
> The only way that's comparable would be if there's a claim that the
> genetic enhancement has national security implications. Does it?
>
> Half Romulan half human living in either society, one is totally fucked.
> Yes, I remember the stupid Denise Crosby episode. I hated the backstory.
>

It was better than the previous Denise Crosby, character and backstory!

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On 6/23/2023 4:04 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2023-06-23 22:56:07 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>
>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>>>
>>>> I *will* get back to this!
>>>>
>>>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>>>
>>>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>>>
>>>> This will be a multi-day catch up.  I watched:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>>>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>>>> lord's son from a rival.
>>>>
>>>> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel.  Chris Hemsworth returns
>>>> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
>>>> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
>>>> live there with him.
>>>
>>> Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
>>> the two films you thought was better?
>>>
>>> (And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in
>>> RAT linked to a recent article talking about it.)
>>
>> Oooo, oooo, me, me!!!
>
> I couldn't remember... [blush]
>
>>>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>>>> to handle a Skrull invasion.  Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>>>
>>> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
>>> will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
>>> is dropping right now.)
>>
>> The last episode won’t drop until the end of the month.
>>
>> Serious question. Since silo has been renewed, are you willing to
>> watch the
>> first season while waiting for the second or are you going to wait for
>> the
>> whole series to drop?
>
> I plan to watch "Silo" season #1 some time around the end of
> June/beginning of July. I'm not going to wait until season #2.
>
> (By the same token I will probably re-watch "Rogue One", and maybe "A
> New Dope!", soon - I'm not going to wait until season #2 of "Andor" in
> August 2024!!)
>
>

Heads up for people planning to watch shows on Paramount+ later. They
are cancelling a bunch of shows and removing them from the streaming
service June 30th. I had planned to watch Grease in August or
September, but now I'll be watching it tonight/this week.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-game-grease-rise-of-the-pink-ladies-star-trek-prodigy-queen-of-the-universe-canceled-paramount-removed-1235653191/

On 2023-06-24 00:33:10 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:

> On 6/23/2023 4:04 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On 2023-06-23 22:56:07 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>>>> On 6/23/2023 7:58 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-06-23 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Class of '09 (Hulu) - "Graduation" (ep. #8, the finale).
>>>>>
>>>>> I *will* get back to this!
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Husband's Worst Mistake (LMN)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recorded for later: The RED REDDINGTON Showe!!
>>>>>
>>>>> This will be a multi-day catch up.  I watched:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Extraction (Netflix streaming) 2020 action movie starring Chris
>>>>> Hemsworth as a private military contractor who is hired to save a drug
>>>>> lord's son from a rival.
>>>>>
>>>>> Extraction 2 (Netflix streaming) 2023 sequel.  Chris Hemsworth returns
>>>>> this time to extract the family of a Russian mobster from a prison
>>>>> where the father is being held and he is forcing his wife and kids to
>>>>> live there with him.
>>>>
>>>> Seeing as you watched them back-to-back, I am curious to know which of
>>>> the two films you thought was better?
>>>>
>>>> (And, ICYWW, there is a third "Extraction" film planned - someone in
>>>> RAT linked to a recent article talking about it.)
>>>
>>> Oooo, oooo, me, me!!!
>>
>> I couldn't remember... [blush]
>>
>>>>> Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>>>>> to handle a Skrull invasion.  Episode 1 was mostly set up.
>>>>
>>>> Again - am waiting for all episodes of this one to drop, and then I
>>>> will "binge" it. (Same with "Silo"... and I think something else that
>>>> is dropping right now.)
>>>
>>> The last episode won’t drop until the end of the month.
>>>
>>> Serious question. Since silo has been renewed, are you willing to watch the
>>> first season while waiting for the second or are you going to wait for the
>>> whole series to drop?
>>
>> I plan to watch "Silo" season #1 some time around the end of
>> June/beginning of July. I'm not going to wait until season #2.
>>
>> (By the same token I will probably re-watch "Rogue One", and maybe "A
>> New Dope!", soon - I'm not going to wait until season #2 of "Andor" in
>> August 2024!!)
>
> Heads up for people planning to watch shows on Paramount+ later. They
> are cancelling a bunch of shows and removing them from the streaming
> service June 30th. I had planned to watch Grease in August or
> September, but now I'll be watching it tonight/this week.
>
> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-game-grease-rise-of-the-pink-ladies-star-trek-prodigy-queen-of-the-universe-canceled-paramount-removed-1235653191/
>

Yep - they're beating their chests on Reddit about "Star Trek: Prodigy"
(though it sounds like that one is likely to go to Nickelodeon...).

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who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

On 6/23/2023 4:44 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>>>>> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>>>>> trial for being genetically engineered.
>>
>>>> How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
>>>> criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
>>>> done *to* them by someone else?
>>
>>> Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
>>> had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
>>> But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
>>> with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.
>>
>>> TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
>>> lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
>>> really half Romulan.
>>
>> The only way that's comparable would be if there's a claim that the
>> genetic enhancement has national security implications. Does it?
>>
>> Half Romulan half human living in either society, one is totally fucked.
>> Yes, I remember the stupid Denise Crosby episode. I hated the backstory.
>>
>
> It was better than the previous Denise Crosby, character and backstory!
>
It is really hard to not raise the bar when it starts six feet
underground....

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dirty old man.

In article <u74nel$3pu06$1@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 6/23/2023 10:10 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> > On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
> >> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
> >> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson
> >> regular Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes
> >> his kids to "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at
> >> a convention.
> >
> > I am about 100% sure I would hate this - Wes Anderson movies are not
> > my thing at all... [shrug]
> >
>
> If you don't like Wes Anderson you need to stay far, far away from this
> movie! Watching this is like injecting a Wes Anderson movie straight
> into your veins. He wasn't even trying to do anything different from
> his usual schitct. Although I guess maybe the sci-fi aspect with the
> alien was different, but even that got Wes Andersonized.

I'm not a particular fan, the only one I own is The Royal Tennenbaums
and I bought it when I came across it used mainly because it was a
Criterion Collection edition and figured it had to have some merit to it.

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 4:44 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>>>>>> Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>>>>>> trial for being genetically engineered.
>>>
>>>>> How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
>>>>> criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
>>>>> done *to* them by someone else?
>>>
>>>> Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
>>>> had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
>>>> But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
>>>> with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.
>>>
>>>> TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
>>>> lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
>>>> really half Romulan.
>>>
>>> The only way that's comparable would be if there's a claim that the
>>> genetic enhancement has national security implications. Does it?
>>>
>>> Half Romulan half human living in either society, one is totally fucked.
>>> Yes, I remember the stupid Denise Crosby episode. I hated the backstory.
>>>
>>
>> It was better than the previous Denise Crosby, character and backstory!
>>
> It is really hard to not raise the bar when it starts six feet
> underground....
>

If you look down from there, you can see Marina Sirtis!

Gates McMuffin, though, is so much further down sunlight can’t even reach
her, which is why she’s the color of diseased flesh.

--
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On 6/23/2023 8:54 PM, super70s wrote:
> In article <u74nel$3pu06$1@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2023 10:10 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-23 15:41:49 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>>> Asteroid City (theatrical) New comedy written and directed by Wes
>>>> Anderson. It has an all star cast too long to list but Anderson
>>>> regular Jason Schwartzman stars as a photographer in 1955 who takes
>>>> his kids to "Asteroid City" to visit a comet and do some stargazing at
>>>> a convention.
>>>
>>> I am about 100% sure I would hate this - Wes Anderson movies are not
>>> my thing at all... [shrug]
>>>
>>
>> If you don't like Wes Anderson you need to stay far, far away from this
>> movie! Watching this is like injecting a Wes Anderson movie straight
>> into your veins. He wasn't even trying to do anything different from
>> his usual schitct. Although I guess maybe the sci-fi aspect with the
>> alien was different, but even that got Wes Andersonized.
>
> I'm not a particular fan, the only one I own is The Royal Tennenbaums
> and I bought it when I came across it used mainly because it was a
> Criterion Collection edition and figured it had to have some merit to it.

Well, for some it does.

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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

In article <u74eg6$3otbg$2@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:

>Secret Invasion (Disney+) - "Resurrection" - Nick Fury returns to Earth
>to handle a Skrull invasion. Episode 1 was mostly set up.

I kept seeing commercial for this show and wondered why he has his left eye
if it was scratched out by a space-cat.

>It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - "Frank vs. Russia" - For reasons I
>must have missed Frank cheats at chess all his way up to playing a Russian.

You must have missed the part about Charlie seeing the announcement ahead of
time and wanting to beat Russian. He cheated using a restaurant buzzer in
Frank's pocket and a computer chess game. At the game against Ruussia, he had
to use Mac's anal beads.

--
Let's go Brandon!

In article <u751vs$3qu6l$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 6/23/2023 8:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>>Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+) - "Ad Astra per Aspera" -
>>>>Episode 2 which picks up where season 1 ended with Una Chin-Riley's
>>>>trial for being genetically engineered.
>>>
>>>How can an "enlightened" society like the Federation hold someone
>>>criminally responsible for something they didn't actually do-- that was
>>>done *to* them by someone else?
>>
>>Exactly. This is explicitly mentioned during the trial. She literally
>>had no say over what her parents did to her before she was even born.
>>But basically she lied on her application. So she's not being charged
>>with being enhanced, she's being charged with lying about it.
>
>>TNG briefly touched on this in an episode where someone was charged with
>>lying on their application claiming he was half Vulcan when he was
>>really half Romulan.
>
>The only way that's comparable would be if there's a claim that the
>genetic enhancement has national security implications. Does it?
>
>Half Romulan half human living in either society, one is totally fucked.
>Yes, I remember the stupid Denise Crosby episode. I hated the backstory.

No, not that one. The other one.

[Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

--
Let's go Brandon!