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Subject: Re: "Sunshine Flower Company" / Will Dockery
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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 05:43 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> Today's poem on the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> Sunshine Flower Company
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> Joanne was my Flower Girl;
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> it was as if she'd stepped
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> out of a Cowsills' song.
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> That corner was
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> on one of my major routes
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> so I'd see her as I walked home.
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> On the corner
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> of Cheshire Bridge and La Vista
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> that was the Flower Girl's beat.[...]
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> Read more at:
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2021/04/sunshine-flower-company.html
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> ***
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > Ah, the legendary flower girl....
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> Never forgotten.
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> > Hair, beautiful hair...
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> > https://youtu.be/Qt_yKPNORLM
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> Thanks for reading and commenting, Robert.
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> Phil Ochs is a bigger influence, since you brought it up:
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> >> https://youtu.be/EUXd-59ec60
>>>> > > > >> > > >>
>>>> > > > >> > > >> > I don't really see or hear the influence
>>>> > > > >> > > >> > of Phil Ochs in your work, but I'll take
>>>> > > > >> > > >> > your word for it.
>>>> > > > >> > > >> I've been a Phil Ochs fan for over forty years, so he's definitely influenced me.
>>>> > > > >> > > > Will doesn't understand what "influenced by" means
>>>> > > > >> > > Of course I do, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey..
>>>> > > > >> > Prove it.
>>>> > > > >> >
>>>> > > > >> > Explain how Phil Ochs' song lyrics/poetry are reflected in your songs/poems.
>>>> > > > >> This very poem, "Sunshine Flower Company", was directly influenced by one of Phil Ochs' story-songs, "The Flower Lady":
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> https://youtu.be/EUXd-59ec60
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> HTH and HAND.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Influence goes a lot further than a shared word in the title
>>>> > > > Which it is.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Prove it.
>>>> > > Explain how Phil Ochs' song, "The Flower Lady" is reflected in your song/poem, "Sunshine Flower Company."
>>>> > Okay, read my poem, listen to Ochs.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://youtu.be/TMMUcLCjnT8
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes should be able to figure it out.
>>>> I see no similarity apart from the topic

>> You have a pattern of being clueless, now appears to be one of those times, Pendragon.

>>> A shared topic does not denote influence. "Artificial Flowers" by Jerry Bock and Sheldon Harnick has a similar topic. Were both you and Ochs influenced by it? And it is an obvious variation on H.C. Andersen's "The Little Match Girl." Were you, Ochs, Jerry Bock and Sheldon Harnick all influenced by Andersen?

>> I remember "The Little Match Girl", but it doesn't have much to do with my poem.

> Excellent story though....

Much more dismal than my story was.

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