BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <u888si$181dk$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I watched the 1972 film, THE NIGHT STALKER. Yes, Karl Kolchak is back
>>> and this time he's reporting from Las Vegas. Furthermore he has a
>>> lovely girlfriend in the form of Carol Lynley. . . .
>>
>> Best made for tv movie ever.
>
> Gotta say 'SALEM'S LOT was better.

I can’t give you that one, despite James Mason. By then, I was already
reading, Stephen King, and the changes were just offensive. Not to mention
just ripping off Nosferatu.

>
>> I also read that the horrid 2005 tv series remake
>
> But... but... Gabrielle!
>

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2023 at 1:30:40 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price of
>> admission because that price is now so outrageously high.
>
>Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?

I had forgotten about that! I remember they gutted the Pirates of the
Caribean ride at Disney World here by more-or-less removing all the rapey and
pillaging parts.

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>
>> How did they PC that one up?
>
>Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>easily have done it without making that sacrifice.

Didn't they remove the "restless natives" from the ride?

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nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:19:24 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would be my first time there since the addition of the STAR WARS
>>>>>> Galaxy's Edge attraction. My reaction: mostly meh. The Millennium Falcon
>>>>>> ride (Smuggler's Run) was okay but I've seen that kind of thing done
>>>>>> a lot better at other amusement parks. (You basically sit in a simulator
>>>>>> tricked out to look like the Falcon's cockpit and the 'ride' is played
>>>>>> on CGI screens in front of you while the simulator bumps and bounces
>>>>>> you around.) It was also too short for the amount of line-standing it
>>>>>> takes to get in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Rise of the Resistance was much better. It also had a long line, but
>>>>>> the payoff made it worthwhile. The most impressive parts were the hangar
>>>>>> bay of a First Order star-destroyer that you're herded into after your
>>>>>> ship is captured and boarded by the Empire. It was huge, with dozens of
>>>>>> stormtroopers lined up in ranks and the battle raging outside with
>>>>>> TIEs swooping past the entrance to the hangar. The stormtroopers were
>>>>>> all subtly moving and it took me a moment to realize they weren't
>>>>>> people in costume, they were animatronic, but it looked very realistic.
>>>>>> The rest of the ride-- and yes, it's actually a ride this time, where
>>>>>> you actually go from one place to another-- was also impressive. Some
>>>>>> of the practical effects work was top-notch. There's a point where
>>>>>> Kylo Ren has chased your pod down and stabs his lightsaber through
>>>>>> the roof of the cargo elevator you're in and the effect was very
>>>>>> convincing. Looked an awful lot like a real lightsaber beam was
>>>>>> puncturing the ceiling. And the room with the full scale AT-ATs was
>>>>>> also quite breathtaking, because... AT-ATs!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are other STAR WARSY things in the area to do-- you can build your
>>>>>> own lightsaber and build a droid-- but that stuff is mostly for kids.
>>>>>> There was a Cantina-themed restaurant but the wait was too long to make
>>>>>> it worthwhile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price of
>>>>>> admission because that price is now so outrageously high.
>>>>>
>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>
>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>
>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>
>>Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>sure what was missing.
>>
>>I forgot to add that "Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye"
>>broke down as we were standing in line for it, so that was another
>>disappointment to factor into the $159 ticket cost. (Plus $30 for
>>parking)
>
>Damn that is getting way to expensive. But as the previous Disney CEO
>said as long as there are more people wanting to attend the park than
>can reasonably fit in the price needs to keep going up and I'm
>guessing it will. Just kind of sad how many families that would have
>readily attended the park in the past won't be able to afford going
>now.

If that is the case, the prices should be drastically dropping.
This year's attendence numbers are disastrous.

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atropos@mac.com wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2023 at 3:42:06 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>>
>>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>>
>>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>> sure what was missing.
>>
>> Isn't it all woke now?
>
>It's just animatronic animals-- lions, hippos, zebras, monkeys, etc.

Disney has made several changes to their Jungle Cruise attraction to remove
the racially insensitive stereotypes of Indigenous people and to add more
humor, wildlife and skipper heart. Some of the changes include:

� Changing the setting to the Amazon
� Replacing Trader Sam with a gift shop scene
� Making the Rock a different kind of skipper
� Changing Dr. Albert Falls� backstory
� Adding new creations for the movie adaptation

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In article <u86m7o$vhng$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:
> On 2023-07-06 08:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:

>> What did you watch?

>I continued to clear my DVR of old recordings before my DVR deletes them
>by watching:
>
>Ruthless People (TMC) 1986 comedy directed by Jim Abrahams and the
>Zucker brothers starring Danny DeVito as a man planning to murder his
>wife (Bette Midler). However, things don't go as planned when before he
>can murder his wife she's kidnapped by Helen Slater and Judge Reinhold
>and held for ransom. Good luck getting that ransom money paid!
>Meanwhile DeVito's mistress has a secret plan to have her boyfriend
>(Bill Pullman) blackmail DeVito for the murder. Of course, DeVito
>didn't actually murder his wife, but they don't know that. The movie
>holds up well enough. I don't think I've seen this since the 80s. And
>I had no idea Helen Slater was in it.

I knew she was in it. I remember loving it when we saw it.

"I've been kidnapped by K-MART!!" *sobs*

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In article <u86p07$vrom$4@dont-email.me>, dtravel@sonic.net wrote:

>The Proof Is Out There S3E13 'Chupacabra, Greatest UFO Photo Ever and
>Mars Sounds' DVR recording
>"The truth behind a recent sighting of Chupacabra outside of an Amarillo
>Zoo; an aerial photograph taken over Costa Rica could be the greatest
>UFO picture ever taken; strange sounds recorded on Mars."
>
>Chupacabra literally means "goat sucker" since Hispanic legend claims
>they suck the blood of goats.

If memory serves, the Chupacabra was invented in the 1980's by superstitious
Puerto Ricans.

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On 7/6/2023 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2023 at 1:30:40 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>

I'll be going on vacation in a couple of weeks and part of it will
include a trip to Disneyland before heading to Vegas for the big Trek
convention.

> This would be my first time there since the addition of the STAR WARS Galaxy's
> Edge attraction. My reaction: mostly meh. The Millennium Falcon ride
> (Smuggler's Run) was okay but I've seen that kind of thing done a lot better
> at other amusement parks. (You basically sit in a simulator tricked out to
> look like the Falcon's cockpit and the 'ride' is played on CGI screens in
> front of you while the simulator bumps and bounces you around.) It was also
> too short for the amount of line-standing it takes to get in.
>
> The Rise of the Resistance was much better.

Yes it is.

I'm looking forward to riding it again. And the newest attraction,
which I haven't ridden yet, Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway.

It also had a long line, but the
> payoff made it worthwhile. The most impressive parts were the hangar bay of a
> First Order star-destroyer that you're herded into after your ship is captured
> and boarded by the Empire. It was huge, with dozens of stormtroopers lined up
> in ranks and the battle raging outside with TIEs swooping past the entrance to
> the hangar. The stormtroopers were all subtly moving and it took me a moment
> to realize they weren't people in costume, they were animatronic, but it
> looked very realistic. The rest of the ride-- and yes, it's actually a ride
> this time, where you actually go from one place to another-- was also
> impressive. Some of the practical effects work was top-notch. There's a point
> where Kylo Rea has chased your pod down and stabs his lightsaber through the
> roof of the cargo elevator you're in and the effect was very convincing.
> Looked an awful lot like a real lightsaber beam was puncturing the ceiling.
> And the room with the full scale AT-ATs was also quite breathtaking,
> because... AT-ATs!
>
> There are other STAR WARSY things in the area to do-- you can build your own
> lightsaber and build a droid-- but that stuff is mostly for kids. There was a
> Cantina-themed restaurant but the wait was too long to make it worthwhile.
>

I might stick my head in the door but don't really waste much time with
the non ride aspects of the land.

> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price of
> admission because that price is now so outrageously high. Last time I went to
> Disneyland, the entrance fee was $78, which at the time I thought was a
> ridiculous amount. Now it's $159!!! And that's just to get in. Everything
> inside the park is now an upgrade that costs money. It's like Disneyland has
> turned into Spirit Airlines. I just don't remember the whole experience being
> such a crass money grab the way it is now.'
>
> I also wanted to check out the new Marvel MCU attraction but they put that one
> in the other park (Disney's California Adventure), so you can't just buy one
> $160 ticket and do both. You have to buy a separate admission to that park.
> Maybe when I win the lottery and have cash to burn I'll come back and do that
> one.
>
>

The first time I went to Disney as an adult I didn't know there were two
parks and scoffed at buying tickets to California Adventure. Since then
I've learned my lesson and I go to both parks. California Adventure
isn't as good as the main park, but they definitely have some top tier
rides and attractions.

I'm also looking forward to their newest attraction which just opened a
few days ago, "Rogers: The Musical." That fake musical from the Hawkeye
TV series has been turned into a real musical.

The reason it's two parks is all about marketing and hotel sales. If it
was one park you'd buy one ticket and spend one day there. But two
parks, now you have to book a hotel room and spend at least one night to
do it all.

There is a *lot* of chatter about a third park opening soon. Either
that or a massive expansion to the two existing parks.

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> In article <u86p07$vrom$4@dont-email.me>, dtravel@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> The Proof Is Out There S3E13 'Chupacabra, Greatest UFO Photo Ever and
>> Mars Sounds' DVR recording
>> "The truth behind a recent sighting of Chupacabra outside of an Amarillo
>> Zoo; an aerial photograph taken over Costa Rica could be the greatest
>> UFO picture ever taken; strange sounds recorded on Mars."
>>
>> Chupacabra literally means "goat sucker" since Hispanic legend claims
>> they suck the blood of goats.
>
> If memory serves, the Chupacabra was invented in the 1980's by superstitious
> Puerto Ricans.

Worse than that, 1995. And yet even though we know who first said it, and
when and where, idiots still believe it.

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2023 at 3:42:06 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>>> sure what was missing.
>>>
>>> Isn't it all woke now?
>>
>> It's just animatronic animals-- lions, hippos, zebras, monkeys, etc.
>
> Disney has made several changes to their Jungle Cruise attraction to remove
> the racially insensitive stereotypes of Indigenous people and to add more
> humor, wildlife and skipper heart. Some of the changes include:
>
> • Changing the setting to the Amazon

Seriously? How did they explain the African elephants and the hippos?

> • Replacing Trader Sam with a gift shop scene
> • Making the Rock a different kind of skipper
> • Changing Dr. Albert Falls’ backstory
> • Adding new creations for the movie adaptation
>
> --
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>
>

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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>
>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>
>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>
> Didn't they remove the "restless natives" from the ride?

Amongst many many other changes

>
> --
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>
>

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On Jul 7, 2023 at 2:01:34 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> In article <u888si$181dk$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I watched the 1972 film, THE NIGHT STALKER. Yes, Karl Kolchak is back
>>>> and this time he's reporting from Las Vegas. Furthermore he has a
>>>> lovely girlfriend in the form of Carol Lynley. . . .
>>>
>>> Best made for tv movie ever.
>>
>> Gotta say 'SALEM'S LOT was better.
>
> I can’t give you that one, despite James Mason. By then, I was already
> reading, Stephen King, and the changes were just offensive. Not to mention
> just ripping off Nosferatu.

Which shouldn't have done. King's Barlow wasn't a Nosferatu-like creature. He
was a refined gentlemanly demon, like Lugosi's Dracula. Turning him into
Nosferatu was a Tobe Hooper choice.

On Jul 7, 2023 at 1:30:43 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:19:24 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would be my first time there since the addition of the STAR WARS
>>>>>>> Galaxy's Edge attraction. My reaction: mostly meh. The Millennium Falcon
>>>>>>> ride (Smuggler's Run) was okay but I've seen that kind of thing done
>>>>>>> a lot better at other amusement parks. (You basically sit in a simulator
>>>>>>> tricked out to look like the Falcon's cockpit and the 'ride' is played
>>>>>>> on CGI screens in front of you while the simulator bumps and bounces
>>>>>>> you around.) It was also too short for the amount of line-standing it
>>>>>>> takes to get in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Rise of the Resistance was much better. It also had a long line, but
>>>>>>> the payoff made it worthwhile. The most impressive parts were the hangar
>>>>>>> bay of a First Order star-destroyer that you're herded into after your
>>>>>>> ship is captured and boarded by the Empire. It was huge, with dozens of
>>>>>>> stormtroopers lined up in ranks and the battle raging outside with
>>>>>>> TIEs swooping past the entrance to the hangar. The stormtroopers were
>>>>>>> all subtly moving and it took me a moment to realize they weren't
>>>>>>> people in costume, they were animatronic, but it looked very realistic.
>>>>>>> The rest of the ride-- and yes, it's actually a ride this time, where
>>>>>>> you actually go from one place to another-- was also impressive. Some
>>>>>>> of the practical effects work was top-notch. There's a point where
>>>>>>> Kylo Ren has chased your pod down and stabs his lightsaber through
>>>>>>> the roof of the cargo elevator you're in and the effect was very
>>>>>>> convincing. Looked an awful lot like a real lightsaber beam was
>>>>>>> puncturing the ceiling. And the room with the full scale AT-ATs was
>>>>>>> also quite breathtaking, because... AT-ATs!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are other STAR WARSY things in the area to do-- you can build your
>>>>>>> own lightsaber and build a droid-- but that stuff is mostly for kids.
>>>>>>> There was a Cantina-themed restaurant but the wait was too long to make
>>>>>>> it worthwhile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price of
>>>>>>> admission because that price is now so outrageously high.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>>
>>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>>
>>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>> sure what was missing.
>>>
>>> I forgot to add that "Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye"
>>> broke down as we were standing in line for it, so that was another
>>> disappointment to factor into the $159 ticket cost. (Plus $30 for
>>> parking)
>>
>> Damn that is getting way to expensive. But as the previous Disney CEO
>> said as long as there are more people wanting to attend the park than
>> can reasonably fit in the price needs to keep going up and I'm
>> guessing it will. Just kind of sad how many families that would have
>> readily attended the park in the past won't be able to afford going
>> now.
>
> If that is the case, the prices should be drastically dropping.
> This year's attendence numbers are disastrous.

The park was pretty packed when we were there. Of course it was the day after
a holiday, so that could have affected it.

On Jul 7, 2023 at 8:08:36 AM PDT, "Arthur Lipscomb"
<arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 7/6/2023 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2023 at 1:30:40 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>
>
> I'll be going on vacation in a couple of weeks and part of it will
> include a trip to Disneyland before heading to Vegas for the big Trek
> convention.
>
>> This would be my first time there since the addition of the STAR WARS
>> Galaxy's
>> Edge attraction. My reaction: mostly meh. The Millennium Falcon ride
>> (Smuggler's Run) was okay but I've seen that kind of thing done a lot better
>> at other amusement parks. (You basically sit in a simulator tricked out to
>> look like the Falcon's cockpit and the 'ride' is played on CGI screens in
>> front of you while the simulator bumps and bounces you around.) It was also
>> too short for the amount of line-standing it takes to get in.
>>
>> The Rise of the Resistance was much better.
>
> Yes it is.
>
> I'm looking forward to riding it again. And the newest attraction,
> which I haven't ridden yet, Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway.
>
> It also had a long line, but the
>> payoff made it worthwhile. The most impressive parts were the hangar bay of
>> a
>> First Order star-destroyer that you're herded into after your ship is
>> captured
>> and boarded by the Empire. It was huge, with dozens of stormtroopers lined
>> up
>> in ranks and the battle raging outside with TIEs swooping past the entrance
>> to
>> the hangar. The stormtroopers were all subtly moving and it took me a moment
>> to realize they weren't people in costume, they were animatronic, but it
>> looked very realistic. The rest of the ride-- and yes, it's actually a ride
>> this time, where you actually go from one place to another-- was also
>> impressive. Some of the practical effects work was top-notch. There's a
>> point
>> where Kylo Rea has chased your pod down and stabs his lightsaber through the
>> roof of the cargo elevator you're in and the effect was very convincing.
>> Looked an awful lot like a real lightsaber beam was puncturing the ceiling.
>> And the room with the full scale AT-ATs was also quite breathtaking,
>> because... AT-ATs!
>>
>> There are other STAR WARSY things in the area to do-- you can build your own
>> lightsaber and build a droid-- but that stuff is mostly for kids. There was
>> a
>> Cantina-themed restaurant but the wait was too long to make it worthwhile.
>>
>
> I might stick my head in the door but don't really waste much time with
> the non ride aspects of the land.

I thought about buying one of the Sith Wayfinder prop replicas for my movie
room but they come in white and black and you have no idea what color you're
getting until you buy one and open the box. The white one wouldn't go with my
scheme, so I didn't want to gamble $50.00 on it.

I was also tempted by the melted Vader mask replica until I saw it was $2000.
Nope. Not gonna do it.

>> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price of
>> admission because that price is now so outrageously high. Last time I went
>> to
>> Disneyland, the entrance fee was $78, which at the time I thought was a
>> ridiculous amount. Now it's $159!!! And that's just to get in. Everything
>> inside the park is now an upgrade that costs money. It's like Disneyland has
>> turned into Spirit Airlines. I just don't remember the whole experience
>> being
>> such a crass money grab the way it is now.'
>>
>> I also wanted to check out the new Marvel MCU attraction but they put that
>> one
>> in the other park (Disney's California Adventure), so you can't just buy one
>> $160 ticket and do both. You have to buy a separate admission to that park.
>> Maybe when I win the lottery and have cash to burn I'll come back and do
>> that
>> one.
>>
> The first time I went to Disney as an adult I didn't know there were two
> parks and scoffed at buying tickets to California Adventure. Since then
> I've learned my lesson and I go to both parks. California Adventure
> isn't as good as the main park, but they definitely have some top tier
> rides and attractions.
>
> I'm also looking forward to their newest attraction which just opened a
> few days ago, "Rogers: The Musical." That fake musical from the Hawkeye
> TV series has been turned into a real musical.
>
> The reason it's two parks is all about marketing and hotel sales. If it
> was one park you'd buy one ticket and spend one day there. But two
> parks, now you have to book a hotel room and spend at least one night to
> do it all.
>
> There is a *lot* of chatter about a third park opening soon. Either
> that or a massive expansion to the two existing parks.

As I said, some of it is pretty cool but it's *way* overpriced and the way you
find out after paying that price that you're still just the equivalent of
steerage-- where every ride and attraction has "VIP people" who get preference
over you because you didn't shell out even more money-- just turned me off to
the whole thing.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2023 at 2:01:34 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <u888si$181dk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I watched the 1972 film, THE NIGHT STALKER. Yes, Karl Kolchak is back
>>>>> and this time he's reporting from Las Vegas. Furthermore he has a
>>>>> lovely girlfriend in the form of Carol Lynley. . . .
>>>>
>>>> Best made for tv movie ever.
>>>
>>> Gotta say 'SALEM'S LOT was better.
>>
>> I can’t give you that one, despite James Mason. By then, I was already
>> reading, Stephen King, and the changes were just offensive. Not to mention
>> just ripping off Nosferatu.
>
> Which shouldn't have done. King's Barlow wasn't a Nosferatu-like creature. He
was a refined gentlemanly demon, like Lugosi's Dracula. Turning him into
Nosferatu was a Tobe Hooper choice.
>

Yes. Barlow was the role that should have gone to James Mason.

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atropos@mac.com wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2023 at 1:30:43 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:19:24 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Nothing. With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But as cool as a lot of that was, I can't say it was worth the price
>>>>>>>> of admission because that price is now so outrageously high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>>> sure what was missing.
>>>>
>>>> I forgot to add that "Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye"
>>>> broke down as we were standing in line for it, so that was another
>>>> disappointment to factor into the $159 ticket cost. (Plus $30 for
>>>> parking)
>>>
>>> Damn that is getting way to expensive. But as the previous Disney CEO
>>> said as long as there are more people wanting to attend the park than
>>> can reasonably fit in the price needs to keep going up and I'm
>>> guessing it will. Just kind of sad how many families that would have
>>> readily attended the park in the past won't be able to afford going
>>> now.
>>
>> If that is the case, the prices should be drastically dropping.
>> This year's attendence numbers are disastrous.
>
>The park was pretty packed when we were there. Of course it was the day after
>a holiday, so that could have affected it.

The reports I heard might have been about Disney World.

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 6, 2023 at 3:42:06 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> With the arrival of family visiting from Texas, we took the
>>>>>>>>> obligatory trip for the nieces and nephews to Disneyland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was it worth them eviscerating the jungle Cruise for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did they PC that one up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Star Wars land ate about a third of the jungle Cruise. And they could
>>>>>> easily have done it without making that sacrifice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm... the jungle cruise looked the same as it always had to me. Not
>>>>> sure what was missing.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it all woke now?
>>>
>>> It's just animatronic animals-- lions, hippos, zebras, monkeys, etc.
>>
>> Disney has made several changes to their Jungle Cruise attraction to
>> remove the racially insensitive stereotypes of Indigenous people and to
>> add more humor, wildlife and skipper heart. Some of the changes include:
>>
>> � Changing the setting to the Amazon
>
>Seriously? How did they explain the African elephants and the hippos?

Like a minor detail that would stop them?
Do they even know the difference?

>> � Replacing Trader Sam with a gift shop scene
>> � Making the Rock a different kind of skipper
>> � Changing Dr. Albert Falls� backstory
>> � Adding new creations for the movie adaptation

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> dtravel@sonic.net wrote:

>>> The Proof Is Out There S3E13 'Chupacabra, Greatest UFO Photo Ever and
>>> Mars Sounds' DVR recording
>>> "The truth behind a recent sighting of Chupacabra outside of an Amarillo
>>> Zoo; an aerial photograph taken over Costa Rica could be the greatest
>>> UFO picture ever taken; strange sounds recorded on Mars."
>>>
>>> Chupacabra literally means "goat sucker" since Hispanic legend claims
>>> they suck the blood of goats.
>>
>> If memory serves, the Chupacabra was invented in the 1980's by
>> superstitious Puerto Ricans.
>
>Worse than that, 1995. And yet even though we know who first said it, and
>when and where, idiots still believe it.

Wow, I did not realize it was more recent.

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