Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top and some
have put South at the top. This video explains the history and also
mentions why some contemporary maps don't follow this convention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 [10 minutes]

I always enjoy the Map Men videos, even their better-than-average ads.

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On 7/13/2023 8:49 AM, Rhino wrote:
> Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top and some
> have put South at the top. This video explains the history and also
> mentions why some contemporary maps don't follow this convention:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 [10 minutes]
>
> I always enjoy the Map Men videos, even their better-than-average ads.
>
They're good. There's also a webpage that shows world maps from
different perspectives. Unfortunately, I don't think I saved the link.

suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
> On 7/13/2023 8:49 AM, Rhino wrote:
>> Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>> always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top and some
>> have put South at the top. This video explains the history and also
>> mentions why some contemporary maps don't follow this convention:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 [10 minutes]
>>
>> I always enjoy the Map Men videos, even their better-than-average ads.
>>
> They're good. There's also a webpage that shows world maps from
> different perspectives. Unfortunately, I don't think I saved the link.
>

There’s a West Wing, where the murderous psychotic doctor from Star Trek
enterprise tries to convince CJ Craig that the map of the earth should be
upside down.

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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top and some
> have put South at the top. This video explains the history and also
> mentions why some contemporary maps don't follow this convention:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 [10 minutes]
>
> I always enjoy the Map Men videos, even their better-than-average ads.
>

There are Godzilla movies that have the standard Mercator projection maps,
but with Japan in the center.

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:27:35 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>> On 7/13/2023 8:49 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>> Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>>> always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top and some
>>> have put South at the top. This video explains the history and also
>>> mentions why some contemporary maps don't follow this convention:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 [10 minutes]
>>>
>>> I always enjoy the Map Men videos, even their better-than-average ads.
>>>
>> They're good. There's also a webpage that shows world maps from
>> different perspectives. Unfortunately, I don't think I saved the link.
>>
>
>There’s a West Wing, where the murderous psychotic doctor from Star Trek
>enterprise tries to convince CJ Craig that the map of the earth should be
>upside down.

Johnny Harris discusses various maps and why we use them in various
episodes of his Youtube videos. Hell, most of his videos are about
various borders and why they exist.
https://www.youtube.com/@johnnyharris

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>>. . .

>Johnny Harris discusses various maps and why we use them in various
>episodes of his Youtube videos. Hell, most of his videos are about
>various borders and why they exist.
>https://www.youtube.com/@johnnyharris

How many international borders are the result of a temporary armistace
line that was going to be replaced with a negotiated border in a
negotiation that never actually occurred?

Pretty much all of them drawn as a result of war, I suppose.

no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:

>Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top

That's just silly!

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On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:
>
> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
> That's just silly!
>
It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the video.

frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:

>> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
>> That's just silly!
>
> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
> video.

I'll have to look later, but since the earth rotates along the north-south
axis, it makes sense to align it that way.

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frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:

>> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
>> That's just silly!
>
> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
> video.

I'll have to watch it later, but since the earth rotates along the north-south
axis, it makes sense to align it that way.

On a related note, I saw an interesting interview with a Flat Earth loser who
put the north pole at the center and defined "south" as an direction towards
the edge of the map.

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On Jul 13, 2023 at 12:09:06 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:
>
>>> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>>> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
>>> That's just silly!
>>
>> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
>> video.
>
> I'll have to watch it later, but since the earth rotates along the
> north-south
> axis, it makes sense to align it that way.
>
> On a related note, I saw an interesting interview with a Flat Earth loser who
>
> put the north pole at the center and defined "south" as an direction towards
> the edge of the map.

They should have asked him to go to the edge and take a picture to show the
rest of us.

atropos@mac.com wrote:
> "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:

>>>> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
>>>> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
>>>> That's just silly!
>>>
>>> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
>>> video.
>>
>> I'll have to watch it later, but since the earth rotates along the
>> north-south axis, it makes sense to align it that way.
>>
>> On a related note, I saw an interesting interview with a Flat Earth loser
>> who put the north pole at the center and defined "south" as an direction
>> towards the edge of the map.
>
>They should have asked him to go to the edge and take a picture to show the
>rest of us.

He had an answer for that, but I don't recall exactly what it was now. I
think he said no one's allowed to go there or there's a wall that prevents us
from looking past the edge (hinting there might be more circlular flat Earths
out there).

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In article <U8pi28$3njhg$5@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> atropos@mac.com wrote:
> > "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07 PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >>>> no_offlin...@example.com wrote:
>
> >>>> >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> >>>> >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
> >>>> That's just silly!
> >>>
> >>> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
> >>> video.
> >>
> >> I'll have to watch it later, but since the earth rotates along the
> >> north-south axis, it makes sense to align it that way.
> >>
> >> On a related note, I saw an interesting interview with a Flat Earth loser
> >> who put the north pole at the center and defined "south" as an direction
> >> towards the edge of the map.
> >
> >They should have asked him to go to the edge and take a picture to show the
> >rest of us.
>
> He had an answer for that, but I don't recall exactly what it was now. I
> think he said no one's allowed to go there or there's a wall that prevents us
> from looking past the edge (hinting there might be more circlular flat Earths
> out there).

We have planes and helicopters that can see over walls.

And who decides who can legally go to the edge of the earth? Who
enforces that? Why do we let them?

In article <d8b4b062-9238-485d-9d2f-92b386f6cd07n@googlegroups.com>,
Rhino <frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07?PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> > no_offlin...@example.com wrote:
> >
> > >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> > >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
> > That's just silly!
> >
> It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the video.

Australians would be from the land Up Over and I don't think they'd
cotton to that.

In article
<super70s-9C0E22.19132113072023@reader.eternal-september.org>, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

> In article <d8b4b062-9238-485d-9d2f-92b386f6cd07n@googlegroups.com>,
> Rhino <frank.lee.speeking.2152@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 2:51:07?PM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> > > no_offlin...@example.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >Although the vast majority of maps have North at the top, it has not
> > > >always been this way. Several cultures have put East at the top
> > > That's just silly!
> > >
> > It actually makes (some) sense if you listen to the explanation in the
> > video.
>
> Australians would be from the land Up Over and I don't think they'd
> cotton to that.

Western maps put north at the top because it was believed that was
where heaven was located.