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 by: moviePig - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:27 UTC

On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was "Jap" as it was bleeped out.

Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
historical retrospective on animation...

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In article <E7TsM.86139$k8Ad.4706@fx46.iad>, moviePig
<pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
> > Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
> > Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
> > says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
> > "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>
> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
> historical retrospective on animation...

First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.

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In <160720231836044415%nope@noway.com> A Friend <nope@noway.com> writes:

[snip]

>First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.

Quite possibly the original word was "Nip".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGBNBtLB-Po

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 02:03 UTC

A Friend wrote:
>moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:

>>>Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>"Jap" as it was bleeped out.

>>Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>historical retrospective on animation...

>First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.

We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.

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On 7/16/23 11:11 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 22:04:00 UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> A Friend wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>
>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>
>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>
> Because Honkey is the only pejorative term the woke will allow.

No, I'm pretty sure "right wing asshole" is perfectly acceptable.

Hope this helps.

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 06:43 UTC

On 7/16/23 11:11 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 22:04:00 UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> A Friend wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>
>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>
>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>
> Because Honkey is the only pejorative term the woke will allow.

Oh and the 70s called, it wants its slang back.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 15:32 UTC

On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> A Friend wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>
>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>
>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>
>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>
> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.

This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
expose kids to racial epithets.

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:19 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> A Friend wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>
>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>
>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>
>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>
> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
> expose kids to racial epithets.

But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
fine.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:29 UTC

BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>A Friend wrote:
>>>>moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:

>>>>>>Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>"Jap" as it was bleeped out.

>>>>>Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>historical retrospective on animation...

>>>>First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.

>>>We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.

>>This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>expose kids to racial epithets.

>But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>fine.

I need to stop being astounded by how ignorant moviePig is about movies.
Short subjects were shown as part of the program that included the
movie being exhibited, trailers, and local advertisements. Programming
meant for a general audience was NOT children's programming. Children
attending movies with their parents were indeed exposed to adult themes
and adult sensibilities in the movies. Sure, some short subjects were
children's programming but most of them weren't intended to be. But it's
that Fourteenth and a Half amendment to the Constitution that mandates
censorship as long as "It's for the children!" is invoked.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 18:39 UTC

On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>
>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>
>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>
>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>
>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>
> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
> fine.

Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 18:47 UTC

On 7/17/2023 12:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>
>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>
>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>
>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>
>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>
>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>> fine.
>
> I need to stop being astounded by how ignorant moviePig is about movies.
> Short subjects were shown as part of the program that included the
> movie being exhibited, trailers, and local advertisements. Programming
> meant for a general audience was NOT children's programming. Children
> attending movies with their parents were indeed exposed to adult themes
> and adult sensibilities in the movies. Sure, some short subjects were
> children's programming but most of them weren't intended to be. But it's
> that Fourteenth and a Half amendment to the Constitution that mandates
> censorship as long as "It's for the children!" is invoked.

Umm, we're not talking about cartoon being shown in the '40s, we're
talking about a '40s cartoon being shown to present day children.

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:52 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>
>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>
>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>
>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>
>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>> fine.
>
> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?

So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is less of a concern
than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:22 UTC

On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>
>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>
>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>> fine.
>>
>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>
> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is less of a concern
> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.

I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
"cosplay".) Our disconnect here seems to be over the concepts sown by
such words as 'nip', 'nigger', 'kike', etc. You'd apparently have me
weigh those against sexual images for toddlers. I don't think I will.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:28 UTC

On 7/17/2023 3:59 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 11:32:26 UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>
>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>
>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>
>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>
> Yes, it's much better letting some Marxist woke teacher "explain" (one-sided) things like that to them. Part of it is American's TERROR of addressing RACE in ANY form.
> So the kid hears the character say, "nip?" Is it IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PARENT to explain it to them??! Nanny-state, f---- off.

If the words somehow pass by unnoticed, no harm no foul. But when one
eventually takes hold, explaining it is a tall order for most parents.
(Also, I'm guessing there was accompanying caricature.)

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:37 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>>
>>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>>
>>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>>> fine.
>>>
>>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>>
>> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is more of a concern
>> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.
>
> I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
> in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
> "cosplay".)

I'm talking about the antics of men in dresses and clown makeup at what
have been billed as "family-friendly drag parades" in places like L.A. and
NYC.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:06 UTC

On 7/17/2023 5:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>>>
>>>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>>>
>>> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is more of a concern
>>> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.
>>
>> I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
>> in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
>> "cosplay".)
>
> I'm talking about the antics of men in dresses and clown makeup at what
> have been billed as "family-friendly drag parades" in places like L.A. and
> NYC.

Pretty sure no one considers simulated anal sex to be "family-friendly".

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 by: A Friend - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:18 UTC

In article <iuucncBw_uaX9yj5nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701
<no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> > On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >> A Friend wrote:
> >>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
> >>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
> >>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
> >>
> >>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
> >>>> historical retrospective on animation...
> >>
> >>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
> >>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
> >>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
> >>
> >> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
> >> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
> >
> > This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
> > expose kids to racial epithets.
>
> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
> fine.

That, of course, has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:16 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 5:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>>>>
>>>> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is more of a concern
>>>> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.
>>>
>>> I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
>>> in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
>>> "cosplay".)
>>
>> I'm talking about the antics of men in dresses and clown makeup at what
>> have been billed as "family-friendly drag parades" in places like L.A. and
>> NYC.
>
> Pretty sure no one considers simulated anal sex to be "family-friendly".

Now you're starting to understand why we call them groomers.

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 by: moviePig - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 02:44 UTC

On 7/17/2023 7:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/2023 5:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>>>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is more of a concern
>>>>> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.
>>>>
>>>> I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
>>>> in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
>>>> "cosplay".)
>>>
>>> I'm talking about the antics of men in dresses and clown makeup at what
>>> have been billed as "family-friendly drag parades" in places like L.A. and
>>> NYC.
>>
>> Pretty sure no one considers simulated anal sex to be "family-friendly".
>
> Now you're starting to understand why we call them groomers.

"No one" includes the parade organizers.

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 by: BTR1701 - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 02:54 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 7:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2023 5:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/2023 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>>>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>>>>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is more of a concern
>>>>>> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.
>>>>>
>>>>> I must've missed your reference to anal sex, and thought we were still
>>>>> in your familiar nightmare of 'drag queen storytime'. (Hence,
>>>>> "cosplay".)
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about the antics of men in dresses and clown makeup at what
>>>> have been billed as "family-friendly drag parades" in places like L.A. and
>>>> NYC.
>>>
>>> Pretty sure no one considers simulated anal sex to be "family-friendly".
>>
>> Now you're starting to understand why we call them groomers.
>
> "No one" includes the parade organizers.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1681092876313214976?s=46

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 by: trotsky - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 08:13 UTC

On 7/17/23 10:32 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> A Friend wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked
>>>>> by a
>>>>> Japanese plane.  Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun
>>>>> and
>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!"  A least i assume
>>>>> it was
>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>
>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>
>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus.  Second, yes, TV
>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>> 1970s.  It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>
>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>
> This instance isn't about "prettying up".  It's about how and when to
> expose kids to racial epithets.

Do you find it strange that this needs to be explained? As if the
resident "intelligentsia" are just a bunch of whining, drooling wastoids
incapable of understanding some of the most obvious topics

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On 7/17/23 11:19 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>
>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>
>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>
>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>
>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>
> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
> fine.

Yes, this is the new normal. Are you and your fellow Oath Keepers
winning your war with reality? Because I'm seeing a lot of them being
sent to prison for being assholes instead.

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On 7/17/23 1:47 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 12:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is
>>>>>>>> attacked by a
>>>>>>>> Japanese plane.  Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine
>>>>>>>> gun and
>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!"  A least i
>>>>>>>> assume it was
>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>
>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>
>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus.  Second, yes, TV
>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>> 1970s.  It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>
>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>
>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up".  It's about how and when to
>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>
>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines
>>> is just
>>> fine.
>>
>> I need to stop being astounded by how ignorant moviePig is about movies.
>> Short subjects were shown as part of the program that included the
>> movie being exhibited, trailers, and local advertisements. Programming
>> meant for a general audience was NOT children's programming. Children
>> attending movies with their parents were indeed exposed to adult themes
>> and adult sensibilities in the movies. Sure, some short subjects were
>> children's programming but most of them weren't intended to be. But it's
>> that Fourteenth and a Half amendment to the Constitution that mandates
>> censorship as long as "It's for the children!" is invoked.
>
> Umm, we're not talking about cartoon being shown in the '40s, we're
> talking about a '40s cartoon being shown to present day children.

Again, one of the raving and drooling morons of the group decided to
chime in, and you're wasting time relating what should be intuitively
obvious to anyone with a functioning brain. Verman needs to shut his
fucking mouth and rewatch Song of the South again.

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On 7/17/23 2:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/2023 12:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>>>>
>>>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>>>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>>>
>>> But exposing them to twerking trannies teaching striptease routines is just
>>> fine.
>>
>> Presented as "cosplay"? Why not?
>
> So in moviePig world, a kid hearing the word 'nip' is less of a concern
> than a kid being forced to watch a man simulate anal sex with another man.

So in Oath Keeper Twat world kids are watching anal sex "with a man"
(apparently watching anal sex with woman passes muster?) all over the
fucking place, no pun intended.

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 by: trotsky - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 08:47 UTC

On 7/17/23 2:59 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 11:32:26 UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 7/16/2023 10:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> A Friend wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/2023 4:48 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Popeye, Olive Oil and Brutus were on a naval ship that is attacked by a
>>>>>> Japanese plane. Popeye blasts away at the plane with a machine gun and
>>>>>> says something like, "take that, you dirty Jap!" A least i assume it was
>>>>>> "Jap" as it was bleeped out.
>>>
>>>>> Presumably this was during a contemporary kids' cartoon show, not an
>>>>> historical retrospective on animation...
>>>
>>>> First of all, it was Bluto at that time, not Brutus. Second, yes, TV
>>>> has been bleeping "Jap" out of WW2-era cartoons since at least the
>>>> 1970s. It's hard to believe that doing so should upset anybody.
>>>
>>> We fought a war with the Empire of Japan. The past must never be
>>> prettied up. I don't understand why this is controversial.
>> This instance isn't about "prettying up". It's about how and when to
>> expose kids to racial epithets.
>
> Yes, it's much better letting some Marxist woke teacher "explain" (one-sided) things like that to them. Part of it is American's TERROR of addressing RACE in ANY form.

Explain how it's different in CANADA then you RAVING DROOLING
MOTHERFUCKING VEGETABLE.


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