It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
shape Toronto according to their ideology:

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html

While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....

--
Rhino

On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>
> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>
>
> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>

If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
what's your problem?

Don't you believe in democratic elections? What are you... a communist
marxist?

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:

>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:

>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>
>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>
>>>
>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>
>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>> what's your problem?
>
> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
> most of it's tax-base.

Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again. Subjects are ruled
over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in democracies.
Officials merely hold office for a time.

On 7/18/2023 1:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>
>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>
>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>
>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>> what's your problem?
>>
>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>> most of it's tax-base.
>
> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again. Subjects are ruled
> over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in democracies.
> Officials merely hold office for a time.

Yeah, but citizens have to do what officials say, as a rule.

On 2023-07-18 5:03 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>
>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>
>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next
>> San Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>
>
> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
> what's your problem?
>
> Don't you believe in democratic elections?  What are you... a communist
> marxist?
>
Oh fuck off! You KNOW I despise Marxists.

I'm delighted that we still have democratic elections. I'm just not
pleased that of all the possible candidates - there were just over 100!
- THIS is the one they chose.

--
Rhino

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:55:36 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>
>https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>
>While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....

With all due respect you would have to be blind deaf AND dumb not to
know what you were getting if you cast a vote for Olivia Chow for
Mayor of Toronto.

Her husband was firmly left but more restrained. No one that I know of
ever thought of Olivia Chow as in any way restrained as to her
Socialism. (And that's with a capital S dammit!)

Though she has nothing at all in common with the Mayor of Vancouver,
Ken Sim other than ethnicity which had to have played a role in her
Victoria.

No doubt the United Front Work Department toasted her victory
mightily. (And totally loathed Mr Sim)

On 2023-07-18 7:32 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:55:36 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>
>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>
>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>
> With all due respect you would have to be blind deaf AND dumb not to
> know what you were getting if you cast a vote for Olivia Chow for
> Mayor of Toronto.
>
Yeah, but Toronto being what it is, you know that the Left felt that the
last couple of mayors, including John Tory, were too far to the Right.
It looks like they've "redressed that imbalance" now at least in their
own minds.

> Her husband was firmly left but more restrained. No one that I know of
> ever thought of Olivia Chow as in any way restrained as to her
> Socialism. (And that's with a capital S dammit!)
>
Her platform called for an increase in property taxes but wouldn't put a
number on it. You can bet it's going to be a big one.

> Though she has nothing at all in common with the Mayor of Vancouver,
> Ken Sim other than ethnicity which had to have played a role in her
> Victoria.
>
I assume you meant that last word to be "victory" ;-)

> No doubt the United Front Work Department toasted her victory
> mightily. (And totally loathed Mr Sim)
>
I don't know anything about Sim. He's NOT a Maoist then?

--
Rhino

On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:28:03 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>Her platform called for an increase in property taxes but wouldn't put a
>number on it. You can bet it's going to be a big one.

Double digits for sure - the City of Vancouver said about a month ago
that if they were going to honor all commitments made taxpayers had to
be ready for increases of 9+% for the next 5 years. And no question a
lot of that is going to be public sector wage increases - these days
it seems public sector wages start at $70k/year which is dramatically
more than private sector wages particularly in industries that are
barely managing to keep going after the losses in the pandemic.

At the beginning of the pandemic Trudeau was giving out interest free
loans of $35000 (late increased to $45000 - not sure about the numbers
but am close) with the end of 2023 being the deadline for payback. A
lot of small businesses are sweating.

(As a for instance March 27, 2000 was one of the worst days of my
working life as the first of the lockdowns had just been announced the
previous week and I - who in my entire career had never laid off more
than one person at a time ever - was suddenl having to lay off our
entire staff (including my brother and I who lived on CERB payments
for 3 months) many of which we recalled in June. We didn't get
everybody back as some had found other jobs in the meantime.

Not exactly "good times"! That grant was to keep rents paid during the
closures and while we never lost a day's business things were
initially down 80%. Now the loans are due.

>> Though she has nothing at all in common with the Mayor of Vancouver,
>> Ken Sim other than ethnicity which had to have played a role in her
>> Victoria.
>>
>I assume you meant that last word to be "victory" ;-)

OMG - and I cannot blame this on spellcheck! You are correct.

>> No doubt the United Front Work Department toasted her victory
>> mightily. (And totally loathed Mr Sim)
>>
>I don't know anything about Sim. He's NOT a Maoist then?

Olivia Chow isn't either but you know she's hard left. Google Ken Sim
- you'll find enough. Ironically Vancouver elects more socialists than
Toronto but they're the one with the socialist mayor. (I believe I
mentioned previously I live in the Vancouver burbs so Sim isn't my
mayor - our mayor is a hard core Conservative who actually ran for
them a couple of elections back)

On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>
>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>
>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>
>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>> what's your problem?
>>
>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>> most of it's tax-base.
>
> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.

I must be doing something wrong. Effa comes on the group a few times
after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.

Subjects are ruled
> over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in democracies.
> Officials merely hold office for a time.

Unless abortions are involved. Or not wanting to be shot. Good guess
though!

trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>
>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>
>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>
>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>> what's your problem?
>>>
>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>
>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>
>
> I must be doing something wrong. Effa comes on the group a few times
> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.

Your brand is a monstrous closeted homosexual slug named Hutt.

On 7/18/23 12:32 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 7/18/2023 1:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>
>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>
>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next
>>>>> San
>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>
>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>> what's your problem?
>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>
>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again. Subjects are ruled
>> over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in
>> democracies.
>> Officials merely hold office for a time.
>
> Yeah, but citizens have to do what officials say, as a rule.

Does "Effa's authoritarian streak" count?

On 7/19/23 2:26 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>>> what's your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>>
>>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>>
>>
>> I must be doing something wrong. Effa comes on the group a few times
>> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.
>
> Your brand is a monstrous closeted homosexual slug named Hutt.

You're getting a lot like Eunuch "Rich"--are you really too fucking
stupid to know what "brand" means in this context? If you need help
just ask.

On 7/18/23 1:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>
>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>
>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>
>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>> what's your problem?
>>
>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>> most of it's tax-base.
>
> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again. Subjects are ruled
> over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in democracies.
> Officials merely hold office for a time.
>

Sez a buddy of the Oathkeepers who tried to install a dictator. That's
rich! Did you see your side's latest? They want to take over the
entire executive branch and fire anyone not "loyal" to Jefferson Beavis
Trump.

> Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands.
>
> Their plans to centralize more power in the Oval Office stretch far beyond the former president’s recent remarks that he would order a criminal investigation into his political rival, President Biden, signaling his intent to end the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department independence from White House political control.
>
> Mr. Trump and his associates have a broader goal: to alter the balance of power by increasing the president’s authority over every part of the federal government that now operates, by either law or tradition, with any measure of independence from political interference by the White House, according to a review of his campaign policy proposals and interviews with people close to him.

You want to broadcast something on TV? Got to get Trump's permission.
Want to make a decision about your business? Got to get Trump's
permission.

Want to take a shit? Trump will let you know when to un-clench your cheeks.

Trump will directly control every aspect of his branch, and he'll
appoint only THE BEST PEOPLE, just like always. It's a takeover from
the inside... it doesn't get much more authoritarian than today's
conservatives.

But, yeah.. *I'm* the authoritarian because I think rich fuckers should
pay at least as much tax as the rest of us.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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On 7/19/23 3:11 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>
>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>
>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next
>>>>> San
>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>
>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>> what's your problem?
>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>
>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>
>
> I must be doing something wrong.  Effa comes on the group a few times
> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.

That's because I had a Google alert set for my name, and when Bee Tee
Are would use it, I'd come back and kick him in his balls. (Which isn't
easy, cuz of the teeny-tiny target.)

So he switched to spelling the name Phone-Et-Tickley so I wouldn't see
his latest easily debunked pile of horse shit.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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On 7/19/23 3:26 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>>> what's your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>>
>>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>>
>>
>> I must be doing something wrong. Effa comes on the group a few times
>> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.
>
> Your brand is a monstrous closeted homosexual slug named Hutt.
>

Well, you ARE the expert on homosexuals, trans people and kids genitals...

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

On 7/18/23 5:09 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2023-07-18 5:03 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>
>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>
>>>
>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers,
>>> all Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the
>>> next San Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>
>>
>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>> what's your problem?
>>
>> Don't you believe in democratic elections?  What are you... a
>> communist marxist?
>>
> Oh fuck off! You KNOW I despise Marxists.

Yeah... that was kind of the point. You seem to think everything you
don't like is either communist or Marxist, regardless of the definitions.

We live in the Second Gilded Age, with robber barons who have to buy a
small yatch so they can ferry out to their super yatch.

> Jeff Bezos, for example, is worth about $127 billion, according to Forbes, or more than enough to drop $75 million on a support yacht with a helipad for his girlfriend, because his $500 million superyacht doesn’t have one, according to Luxury Launches.

You DO have sarcasm up north, right?

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

On 7/19/23 7:58 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 7/18/23 1:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>
>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>
>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next
>>>>> San
>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>
>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>> what's your problem?
>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who support
>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>
>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again. Subjects are ruled
>> over by monarchs and dictators. Citizens are not ruled over in
>> democracies.
>> Officials merely hold office for a time.
>>
>
> Sez a buddy of the Oathkeepers who tried to install a dictator.  That's
> rich!   Did you see your side's latest?  They want to take over the
> entire executive branch and fire anyone not "loyal" to Jefferson Beavis
> Trump.
>
>> Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of
>> presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return
>> him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the
>> executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his
>> hands.
>>
>> Their plans to centralize more power in the Oval Office stretch far
>> beyond the former president’s recent remarks that he would order a
>> criminal investigation into his political rival, President Biden,
>> signaling his intent to end the post-Watergate norm of Justice
>> Department independence from White House political control.
>>
>> Mr. Trump and his associates have a broader goal: to alter the balance
>> of power by increasing the president’s authority over every part of
>> the federal government that now operates, by either law or tradition,
>> with any measure of independence from political interference by the
>> White House, according to a review of his campaign policy proposals
>> and interviews with people close to him.
>
> You want to broadcast something on TV?  Got to get Trump's  permission.
>   Want to make a decision about your business?  Got to get Trump's
> permission.
>
> Want to take a shit?  Trump will let you know when to un-clench your
> cheeks.
>
> Trump will directly control every aspect of his branch, and he'll
> appoint only THE BEST PEOPLE, just like always.  It's a takeover from
> the inside... it doesn't get much more authoritarian than today's
> conservatives.
>
> But, yeah.. *I'm* the authoritarian because I think rich fuckers should
> pay at least as much tax as the rest of us.

Trump gets a bad rap. Perhaps because he's a shitbag and an asshole.

On 7/19/23 8:01 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 7/19/23 3:11 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers,
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the
>>>>>> next San
>>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>>> what's your problem?
>>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who
>>>> support
>>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>>
>>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>>
>>
>> I must be doing something wrong.  Effa comes on the group a few times
>> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.
>
> That's because I had a Google alert set for my name, and when Bee Tee
> Are would use it, I'd come back and kick him in his balls.  (Which isn't
> easy, cuz of the teeny-tiny target.)
>
> So he switched to spelling the name Phone-Et-Tickley so I wouldn't see
> his latest easily debunked pile of horse shit.

I take umbrage with that, Twat's genitalia went missing some time ago.

On 7/19/23 8:02 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 7/19/23 3:26 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/18/23 12:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 July 2023 at 05:03:31 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives"
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>>>>>>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow
>>>>>>> travellers, all
>>>>>>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the
>>>>>>> next San
>>>>>>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>>>>> what's your problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets say your city relied heavily on people from the outside who
>>>>> support
>>>>> most of it's tax-base.
>>>>
>>>> Effa Pee Pee's authoritarian streak is showing again.
>>>
>>>
>>> I must be doing something wrong.  Effa comes on the group a few times
>>> after a hiatus and immediately he's a brand name.
>>
>> Your brand is a monstrous closeted homosexual slug named Hutt.
>>
>
> Well, you ARE the expert on homosexuals, trans people and kids genitals...

What a plagiaristic asswipe, everyone knows Anim8r is the resident
closet homosexual.

On 7/19/23 8:09 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 7/18/23 5:09 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2023-07-18 5:03 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>>>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives"
>>>> are almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more
>>>> power to shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>
>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers,
>>>> all Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the
>>>> next San Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them, then
>>> what's your problem?
>>>
>>> Don't you believe in democratic elections?  What are you... a
>>> communist marxist?
>>>
>> Oh fuck off! You KNOW I despise Marxists.
>
>
> Yeah... that was kind of the point.  You seem to think everything you
> don't like is either communist or Marxist, regardless of the definitions.
>
> We live in the Second Gilded Age, with robber barons who have to buy a
> small yatch so they can ferry out to their super yatch.
>
>> Jeff Bezos, for example, is worth about $127 billion, according to
>> Forbes, or more than enough to drop $75 million on a support yacht
>> with a helipad for his girlfriend, because his $500 million superyacht
>> doesn’t have one, according to Luxury Launches.
>
> You DO have sarcasm up north, right?

Not for total morons like "Rhino."

On 7/20/23 3:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 7/19/23 8:09 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 5:09 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-18 5:03 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head
>>>>> of Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The
>>>>> "progressives" are almost giddy with delight that they will now
>>>>> have much more power to shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers,
>>>>> all Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the
>>>>> next San Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you mean the voters choosing who they want to rule over them,
>>>> then what's your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Don't you believe in democratic elections?  What are you... a
>>>> communist marxist?
>>>>
>>> Oh fuck off! You KNOW I despise Marxists.
>>
>>
>> Yeah... that was kind of the point.  You seem to think everything you
>> don't like is either communist or Marxist, regardless of the definitions.
>>
>> We live in the Second Gilded Age, with robber barons who have to buy a
>> small yatch so they can ferry out to their super yatch.
>>
>>> Jeff Bezos, for example, is worth about $127 billion, according to
>>> Forbes, or more than enough to drop $75 million on a support yacht
>>> with a helipad for his girlfriend, because his $500 million
>>> superyacht doesn’t have one, according to Luxury Launches.
>>
>> You DO have sarcasm up north, right?
>
>
> Not for total morons like "Rhino."
>

He'll never listen. I tried telling him once that I was a fairly steady
Fox News viewer back in the early O'Reilly days. Right until I figured
out they were lying to me daily.

I tried to explain to Rhino that he should get out and find a reputable
source for his information - but so far, he just can't pull out of the
tailspin he's in.

Even after a $787,000,000 settlement for lying, he still listens to the
shit-bags like Fox. He even believes Thanny, even after you PROVE he's
been.

Not an uneducated guy, but a thickhead who only sees what he wants to
see. I continue to hold out hope.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 12:55:42 PM UTC-4, Rhino wrote:
> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>
> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>
> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....

If you don't like those nerdy city slickers, then go back out to the hills.

On 2023-07-19 1:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:28:03 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Her platform called for an increase in property taxes but wouldn't put a
>> number on it. You can bet it's going to be a big one.
>
> Double digits for sure - the City of Vancouver said about a month ago
> that if they were going to honor all commitments made taxpayers had to
> be ready for increases of 9+% for the next 5 years. And no question a
> lot of that is going to be public sector wage increases - these days
> it seems public sector wages start at $70k/year which is dramatically
> more than private sector wages particularly in industries that are
> barely managing to keep going after the losses in the pandemic.
>
> At the beginning of the pandemic Trudeau was giving out interest free
> loans of $35000 (late increased to $45000 - not sure about the numbers
> but am close) with the end of 2023 being the deadline for payback. A
> lot of small businesses are sweating.
>
> (As a for instance March 27, 2000 was one of the worst days of my
> working life as the first of the lockdowns had just been announced the
> previous week and I - who in my entire career had never laid off more
> than one person at a time ever - was suddenl having to lay off our
> entire staff (including my brother and I who lived on CERB payments
> for 3 months) many of which we recalled in June. We didn't get
> everybody back as some had found other jobs in the meantime.
>
> Not exactly "good times"! That grant was to keep rents paid during the
> closures and while we never lost a day's business things were
> initially down 80%. Now the loans are due.
>
Now that you've sold the business to your brother, he must be sweating
bullets figuring out how to pay that back....

>>> Though she has nothing at all in common with the Mayor of Vancouver,
>>> Ken Sim other than ethnicity which had to have played a role in her
>>> Victoria.
>>>
>> I assume you meant that last word to be "victory" ;-)
>
> OMG - and I cannot blame this on spellcheck! You are correct.
>
>>> No doubt the United Front Work Department toasted her victory
>>> mightily. (And totally loathed Mr Sim)
>>>
>> I don't know anything about Sim. He's NOT a Maoist then?
>
> Olivia Chow isn't either but you know she's hard left. Google Ken Sim
> - you'll find enough. Ironically Vancouver elects more socialists than
> Toronto but they're the one with the socialist mayor. (I believe I
> mentioned previously I live in the Vancouver burbs so Sim isn't my
> mayor - our mayor is a hard core Conservative who actually ran for
> them a couple of elections back)

The fundamental problem with this country is that way too many people
have let themselves be persuaded to be dependent on government to solve
all problems. No matter what's going on, the majority of people always
look to government when some problem develops, even when government
itself IS the problem. They are the first, and in many cases, ONLY
avenue of resolution to any issue. Private enterprise is only rarely
considered as a solution and typically viewed with suspicion by many. A
nanny state evolved as we were growing up and anyone who warned about
the consequences was dismissed or denigrated.

Of our five major parties - Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Bloc, and
Green (and yeah, I know it is a stretch to call the Greens a major party
given that they've never had more than 3 MPs and almost destroyed
themselves entirely with their infighting during the last couple of
elections), only the Conservatives are even nominally conservative when
they have a leader that is from the non-progressive side of the party.
(O'Toole ran to the LEFT of even the NDP when he was leader according to
several of the pundits.) So, with 4 (or more like 4 and a half) of our
parties being "progressive", that inclination drives practically
everything that happens in this country.

--
Rhino

bruce bowser <bruce1.9bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 12:55:42 PM UTC-4, Rhino wrote:
>> It turns out that new Toronto mayor's chief of staff was the head of
>> Progress Toronto until he joined her campaign. The "progressives" are
>> almost giddy with delight that they will now have much more power to
>> shape Toronto according to their ideology:
>>
>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/17/after-years-of-trying-to-push-city-hall-to-the-political-left-advocacy-group-progress-toronto-breaks-through.html
>>
>>
>> While this will undoubtably delight FPP and his fellow travellers, all
>> Toronto has to look forward to is the prospect of becoming the next San
>> Francisco. Oh joy, oh bliss....
>
> If you don't like those nerdy city slickers, then go back out to the hills.

For all definitions of 'nerdy' equal to psychotic meth-addicted vagrants
and criminal gang members, sure, Stupidest Human on Usenet.

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:11:14 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>On 2023-07-19 1:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:28:03 -0400, Rhino
>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>Now that you've sold the business to your brother, he must be sweating
>bullets figuring out how to pay that back....

Nah - he got a fairly substantial "COVID discount" and what I got was
a minimum 40% discount over what I could reasonably have expected 2
years earlier before the pandemic.

>The fundamental problem with this country is that way too many people
>have let themselves be persuaded to be dependent on government to solve
>all problems. No matter what's going on, the majority of people always
>look to government when some problem develops, even when government
>itself IS the problem. They are the first, and in many cases, ONLY
>avenue of resolution to any issue. Private enterprise is only rarely
>considered as a solution and typically viewed with suspicion by many. A
>nanny state evolved as we were growing up and anyone who warned about
>the consequences was dismissed or denigrated.

COVID _WAS_ a crisis no question about it - for me the low point was
hearing about that nursing home in Ontario where the staff had
abandoned their charges and infirm seniors were left to soil
themselves for a week before the Feds sent the military in to clean
up. That was a national disgrace.

Trouble is there are too many people who thought that a crisis was a
good time to make "progress" on their laundry list of "needs" and our
man in Ottawa agreed with far too many of these items.

I can remember 2014-15 when Justin Trudeau slammed Stephen Harper for
running the national debt to a level that during COVID Trudeau
surpassed IN A SINGLE YEAR. At the start of the pandemic I knew we'd
be in for rampant inflation since while it was clear emergency
measures were needed that meant rolling the Bank of Canada printing
presses and I had zero faith in Trudeau stopping the increase in money
supply at an appropriate time - and KNEW that meant inflation at a
level no one under age 30 has ever seen (though I remember it well
from the 1980s).

While Canada was by no means unique in this, Trudeau went more
overboard than most western leaders which is why we're currently in
the weakest financial situation of the G7 even though at the start of
COVID we were one of the strongest.

>Of our five major parties - Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Bloc, and
>Green (and yeah, I know it is a stretch to call the Greens a major party
>given that they've never had more than 3 MPs and almost destroyed
>themselves entirely with their infighting during the last couple of
>elections), only the Conservatives are even nominally conservative when
>they have a leader that is from the non-progressive side of the party.
>(O'Toole ran to the LEFT of even the NDP when he was leader according to
>several of the pundits.) So, with 4 (or more like 4 and a half) of our
>parties being "progressive", that inclination drives practically
>everything that happens in this country.