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* Flag mistake in OppenheimerAdam H. Kerman
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|`* Re: Flag mistake in OppenheimerThe Horny Goat
| `- media death spiral, was: Flag mistake in Oppenheimerdanny burstein
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Flag mistake in Oppenheimer

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:37 UTC

Oops! Props mistake!

In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.

https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569

Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
that's quite common.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:09 UTC

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Oops! Props mistake!
>
> In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
> field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
>
> https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
>
> Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
> 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
> that's quite common.
>

I’ve seen them all, in a flag store, when we went to get a new flag for my
parents.

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In article
<1969849420.711990373.285692.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> > Oops! Props mistake!
> >
> > In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
> > field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
> >
> > https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
> >
> > Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
> > 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
> > that's quite common.
> >
>
> I¹ve seen them all, in a flag store, when we went to get a new flag for my
> parents.

Alaska was admitted in 1959, Hawaii in 1960. A gent in town still
flies a 49-star at the front of his house every day. (He's an Alaskan
native who stayed here after his Army hitch was over.) I was a kid
when Alaska and Hawaii were admitted, and everybody knew Hawaii was
going to follow Alaska almost immediately. That's probably why the
49-star was never widely seen.

BTW the 49-star had seven rows of seven stars, staggered left and
right. The 48-star had six rows of eight stars, not staggered.

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 by: Rhino - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 19:20 UTC

On 2023-07-25 12:09 PM, A Friend wrote:
> In article
> <1969849420.711990373.285692.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Oops! Props mistake!
>>>
>>> In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
>>> field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
>>>
>>> Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
>>> 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
>>> that's quite common.
>>>
>>
>> I¹ve seen them all, in a flag store, when we went to get a new flag for my
>> parents.
>
>
> Alaska was admitted in 1959, Hawaii in 1960.

According to the Wikipedia article on Alaska:
=======================================================================
Statehood was approved by the U.S. Congress on July 7, 1958; Alaska was
officially proclaimed a state on January 3, 1959.
=======================================================================

According to the Wikipedia article on Hawaii:
=======================================================================
In March 1959, Congress passed the Hawaiʻi Admissions Act, which U.S.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed into law.[140] The act excluded
Palmyra Atoll from statehood; it had been part of the Kingdom and
Territory of Hawaiʻi. On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of
Hawaiʻi to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood
and 5.7% opposed it.
Admitted to the Union August 21, 1959; 63 years ago (50th)
=======================================================================

A gent in town still
> flies a 49-star at the front of his house every day. (He's an Alaskan
> native who stayed here after his Army hitch was over.) I was a kid
> when Alaska and Hawaii were admitted, and everybody knew Hawaii was
> going to follow Alaska almost immediately. That's probably why the
> 49-star was never widely seen.
>
> BTW the 49-star had seven rows of seven stars, staggered left and
> right. The 48-star had six rows of eight stars, not staggered.

--
Rhino

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 by: bruce bowser - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 19:24 UTC

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Oops! Props mistake!
>
> In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
> field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
>
> https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
>
> Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
> 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
> that's quite common.

Yes. And right or wrong, how dare you question the all seeing all knowing ivy league folk, by the way?

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 by: A Friend - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 19:57 UTC

In article <u9p7ao$16nus$1@dont-email.me>, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

> On 2023-07-25 12:09 PM, A Friend wrote:
> > In article
> > <1969849420.711990373.285692.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>> Oops! Props mistake!
> >>>
> >>> In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
> >>> field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
> >>>
> >>> Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
> >>> 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
> >>> that's quite common.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I1ve seen them all, in a flag store, when we went to get a new flag for my
> >> parents.
> >
> >
> > Alaska was admitted in 1959, Hawaii in 1960.
>
> According to the Wikipedia article on Alaska:
> =======================================================================
> Statehood was approved by the U.S. Congress on July 7, 1958; Alaska was
> officially proclaimed a state on January 3, 1959.
> =======================================================================
>
> According to the Wikipedia article on Hawaii:
> =======================================================================
> In March 1959, Congress passed the Hawai?i Admissions Act, which U.S.
> President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed into law.[140] The act excluded
> Palmyra Atoll from statehood; it had been part of the Kingdom and
> Territory of Hawai?i. On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of
> Hawai?i to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood
> and 5.7% opposed it.
> Admitted to the Union August 21, 1959; 63 years ago (50th)
> =======================================================================

Thank you. I was around then. People were confused, and I guess I'm
still one of them.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:18 UTC

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:37:32 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>Oops! Props mistake!
>
>In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
>field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
>
>https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
>
>Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
>49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
>that's quite common.

This work?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_flag_49_stars.svg

My father told me he had had one but hadn't kept it once 49 became 50.
(Since I was 4 years old during 1959-60 I didn't argue the point when
he told me about it 20 years later)

Several veterans' groups keep the 48 star flag since that's what
troops in WW1, WW2 and Korea fought under.

For the same reason Canadian veterans groups treasure the old Red
Ensign flag which was changed to the present one around 1965-66.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:21 UTC

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:09:39 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Oops! Props mistake!
>>
>> In a scene set in 1945, extras are waiving flags with 50 stars in the
>> field rather than 48. A 48 star flag has stars in an 8x6 arrangement.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1682524818980077569
>>
>> Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1959. I've never seen the short-lived
>> 49 star flag in person. The 48 star flag was in use for decades, so
>> that's quite common.
>>
>
>I’ve seen them all, in a flag store, when we went to get a new flag for my
>parents.

I once got one sent me by National Geographic as a reward for renewing
my subscription. It was a perfectly good flag but as a Canadian not
one I use - I put it back in the drawer and kept it safe until my next
US relative came to town which happened to be my uncle who was quite
surprised to be gifted a US flag in Canada but laughed when I told him
how I had gotten it....

media death spiral, was: Flag mistake in Oppenheimer

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 by: danny burstein - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:58 UTC

In <7ib0ci1inktukj9pcn9nfsl7b5r11d25ld@4ax.com> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:

[snip]

>I once got one sent me by National Geographic as a reward for renewing
>my subscription. It was a perfectly good flag but as a Canadian not
>one I use - I put it back in the drawer and kept it safe until my next
>US relative came to town which happened to be my uncle who was quite
>surprised to be gifted a US flag in Canada but laughed when I told him
>how I had gotten it....

[cnn]

National Geographic magazine has laid off the last of its staff writers

National Geographic, the iconic yellow framed magazine that has
chronicled the natural world for more than 100 years, laid off
its last remaining staff writers this week, multiple
departing staffers said.

The latest round of layoffs at the magazine cut 17 editorial
positions, including all of the publication's staff writers,
its entire podcast staff, and a group of editors, including
one who'd been on staff for nearly 40 years, a former staffer
affected by the layoffs told CNN.
========
rest:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/28/media/national-geographic-magazine-staff-writers/index.html
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