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Subject: Marina Tsvetayeva. To Sergei Efron-Durnovo.
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Such voices can be,
That you're silent, don't repeat them,
So that wonders you foresee.
There are also giant eyes
The color of the sea

Now he stands in front of you:
Look at forehead and at blood
And compare him with you!
The decrepit blood,
Tiredness turned blue.

Of each noble vein
Blueness triumphs.
Gesture of the prince and lion
With a white foam lace
Repeats again.

Your regiment's - dragoon,
Decembrists and Versaillians!
You don't know - he's so young -
Fingers ask for brushes,
Spars and strings.

2

Like seaweed, like branches of willows
Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
And absent-mindedly transfixed

Upon the sweet light-golden melons
Of diamond and aquamarine
The eyes forever semi-open
So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.

The waves are just like rabid lions,
The arrows of the sun did fly.
And from intolerable blueness
Too whitish, you did there lie.

Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
The station Djankoi had to be,
And underneath your arm stretched out
Melon grew golden quietly.

Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
Don't give a glance and do not see,
But look - and waves will heave with power,
And mountains will be moved to sea.

And new moons will in sky be burning,
And joyful lions will lie down
Under the single downward leaning
Of your head beautiful and young.

By Marina Tsvetayeva
Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat

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Subject: Re: Marina Tsvetayeva. To Sergei Efron-Durnovo.
From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> 1
>
> Such voices can be,
> That you're silent, don't repeat them,
> So that wonders you foresee.
> There are also giant eyes
> The color of the sea
>
> Now he stands in front of you:
> Look at forehead and at blood
> And compare him with you!
> The decrepit blood,
> Tiredness turned blue.
>
> Of each noble vein
> Blueness triumphs.
> Gesture of the prince and lion
> With a white foam lace
> Repeats again.
>
> Your regiment's - dragoon,
> Decembrists and Versaillians!
> You don't know - he's so young -
> Fingers ask for brushes,
> Spars and strings.
>
> 2
>
> Like seaweed, like branches of willows
> Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
> Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
> And absent-mindedly transfixed
>
> Upon the sweet light-golden melons
> Of diamond and aquamarine
> The eyes forever semi-open
> So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
>
> The waves are just like rabid lions,
> The arrows of the sun did fly.
> And from intolerable blueness
> Too whitish, you did there lie.
>
> Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
> The station Djankoi had to be,
> And underneath your arm stretched out
> Melon grew golden quietly.
>
> Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
> Don't give a glance and do not see,
> But look - and waves will heave with power,
> And mountains will be moved to sea.
>
> And new moons will in sky be burning,
> And joyful lions will lie down
> Under the single downward leaning
> Of your head beautiful and young.
>
> By Marina Tsvetayeva
> Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat

Come on, up your game!
You're missing something really simple here:
"And new moons will in sky be burning,"

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > 1
> >
> > Such voices can be,
> > That you're silent, don't repeat them,
> > So that wonders you foresee.
> > There are also giant eyes
> > The color of the sea
> >
> > Now he stands in front of you:
> > Look at forehead and at blood
> > And compare him with you!
> > The decrepit blood,
> > Tiredness turned blue.
> >
> > Of each noble vein
> > Blueness triumphs.
> > Gesture of the prince and lion
> > With a white foam lace
> > Repeats again.
> >
> > Your regiment's - dragoon,
> > Decembrists and Versaillians!
> > You don't know - he's so young -
> > Fingers ask for brushes,
> > Spars and strings.
> >
> > 2
> >
> > Like seaweed, like branches of willows
> > Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
> > Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
> > And absent-mindedly transfixed
> >
> > Upon the sweet light-golden melons
> > Of diamond and aquamarine
> > The eyes forever semi-open
> > So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
> >
> > The waves are just like rabid lions,
> > The arrows of the sun did fly.
> > And from intolerable blueness
> > Too whitish, you did there lie.
> >
> > Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
> > The station Djankoi had to be,
> > And underneath your arm stretched out
> > Melon grew golden quietly.
> >
> > Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
> > Don't give a glance and do not see,
> > But look - and waves will heave with power,
> > And mountains will be moved to sea.
> >
> > And new moons will in sky be burning,
> > And joyful lions will lie down
> > Under the single downward leaning
> > Of your head beautiful and young.
> >
> > By Marina Tsvetayeva
> > Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat
> Come on, up your game!
> You're missing something really simple here:
> "And new moons will in sky be burning,"

True, something like

"New moons will be burning in the sky."

Would sound smoother to our American ears.

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 1
>
> Such voices can be,
> That you're silent, don't repeat them,
> So that wonders you foresee.
> There are also giant eyes
> The color of the sea
>
> Now he stands in front of you:
> Look at forehead and at blood
> And compare him with you!
> The decrepit blood,
> Tiredness turned blue.
>
> Of each noble vein
> Blueness triumphs.
> Gesture of the prince and lion
> With a white foam lace
> Repeats again.
>
> Your regiment's - dragoon,
> Decembrists and Versaillians!
> You don't know - he's so young -
> Fingers ask for brushes,
> Spars and strings.
>
> 2
>
> Like seaweed, like branches of willows
> Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
> Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
> And absent-mindedly transfixed
>
> Upon the sweet light-golden melons
> Of diamond and aquamarine
> The eyes forever semi-open
> So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
>
> The waves are just like rabid lions,
> The arrows of the sun did fly.
> And from intolerable blueness
> Too whitish, you did there lie.
>
> Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
> The station Djankoi had to be,
> And underneath your arm stretched out
> Melon grew golden quietly.
>
> Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
> Don't give a glance and do not see,
> But look - and waves will heave with power,
> And mountains will be moved to sea.
>
> And new moons will in sky be burning,
> And joyful lions will lie down
> Under the single downward leaning
> Of your head beautiful and young.
>
> By Marina Tsvetayeva
> Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat

Good selection, Ilya, one of my favorites from Russian poetry.

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 1
>
> Such voices can be,
> That you're silent, don't repeat them,
> So that wonders you foresee.
> There are also giant eyes
> The color of the sea
>
> Now he stands in front of you:
> Look at forehead and at blood
> And compare him with you!
> The decrepit blood,
> Tiredness turned blue.
>
> Of each noble vein
> Blueness triumphs.
> Gesture of the prince and lion
> With a white foam lace
> Repeats again.
>
> Your regiment's - dragoon,
> Decembrists and Versaillians!
> You don't know - he's so young -
> Fingers ask for brushes,
> Spars and strings.
>
> 2
>
> Like seaweed, like branches of willows
> Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
> Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
> And absent-mindedly transfixed
>
> Upon the sweet light-golden melons
> Of diamond and aquamarine
> The eyes forever semi-open
> So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
>
> The waves are just like rabid lions,
> The arrows of the sun did fly.
> And from intolerable blueness
> Too whitish, you did there lie.
>
> Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
> The station Djankoi had to be,
> And underneath your arm stretched out
> Melon grew golden quietly.
>
> Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
> Don't give a glance and do not see,
> But look - and waves will heave with power,
> And mountains will be moved to sea.
>
> And new moons will in sky be burning,
> And joyful lions will lie down
> Under the single downward leaning
> Of your head beautiful and young.
>
> By Marina Tsvetayeva
> Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat

Lovely and splendid poem, I.S.

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 06:39 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 1
>>
>> Such voices can be,
>> That you're silent, don't repeat them,
>> So that wonders you foresee.
>> There are also giant eyes
>> The color of the sea
>>
>> Now he stands in front of you:
>> Look at forehead and at blood
>> And compare him with you!
>> The decrepit blood,
>> Tiredness turned blue.
>>
>> Of each noble vein
>> Blueness triumphs.
>> Gesture of the prince and lion
>> With a white foam lace
>> Repeats again.
>>
>> Your regiment's - dragoon,
>> Decembrists and Versaillians!
>> You don't know - he's so young -
>> Fingers ask for brushes,
>> Spars and strings.
>>
>> 2
>>
>> Like seaweed, like branches of willows
>> Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
>> Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
>> And absent-mindedly transfixed
>>
>> Upon the sweet light-golden melons
>> Of diamond and aquamarine
>> The eyes forever semi-open
>> So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
>>
>> The waves are just like rabid lions,
>> The arrows of the sun did fly.
>> And from intolerable blueness
>> Too whitish, you did there lie.
>>
>> Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
>> The station Djankoi had to be,
>> And underneath your arm stretched out
>> Melon grew golden quietly.
>>
>> Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
>> Don't give a glance and do not see,
>> But look - and waves will heave with power,
>> And mountains will be moved to sea.
>>
>> And new moons will in sky be burning,
>> And joyful lions will lie down
>> Under the single downward leaning
>> Of your head beautiful and young.
>>
>> By Marina Tsvetayeva
>> Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat

> Lovely and splendid poem, I.S.

Good evening, agreed and seconded.

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 by: Zod - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:56 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:01:29 PM UTC-5, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> 1
> >>
> >> Such voices can be,
> >> That you're silent, don't repeat them,
> >> So that wonders you foresee.
> >> There are also giant eyes
> >> The color of the sea
> >>
> >> Now he stands in front of you:
> >> Look at forehead and at blood
> >> And compare him with you!
> >> The decrepit blood,
> >> Tiredness turned blue.
> >>
> >> Of each noble vein
> >> Blueness triumphs.
> >> Gesture of the prince and lion
> >> With a white foam lace
> >> Repeats again.
> >>
> >> Your regiment's - dragoon,
> >> Decembrists and Versaillians!
> >> You don't know - he's so young -
> >> Fingers ask for brushes,
> >> Spars and strings.
> >>
> >> 2
> >>
> >> Like seaweed, like branches of willows
> >> Of Malmazonia are your limbs,
> >> Thus you did lie in sprays of sea foam
> >> And absent-mindedly transfixed
> >>
> >> Upon the sweet light-golden melons
> >> Of diamond and aquamarine
> >> The eyes forever semi-open
> >> So blue-and-grayish, bluish-green.
> >>
> >> The waves are just like rabid lions,
> >> The arrows of the sun did fly.
> >> And from intolerable blueness
> >> Too whitish, you did there lie.
> >>
> >> Behind the back, the desert, somewhere
> >> The station Djankoi had to be,
> >> And underneath your arm stretched out
> >> Melon grew golden quietly.
> >>
> >> Thus, calm and precious, you lie there,
> >> Don't give a glance and do not see,
> >> But look - and waves will heave with power,
> >> And mountains will be moved to sea.
> >>
> >> And new moons will in sky be burning,
> >> And joyful lions will lie down
> >> Under the single downward leaning
> >> Of your head beautiful and young.
> >>
> >> By Marina Tsvetayeva
> >> Translated from Russian by Ilya Shambat
>
> > Lovely and splendid poem, I.S.
> Good evening, agreed and seconded.

Having another read and I daresay I do agree...!

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