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Subject: Re: Charles Bukowski
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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:46 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 10:00 am, baloney wrote:
>> > "Vera" wrote
>> >
>> > > > His name suggests a Polish background.
>> >
>> > > > I found little of his poetry in Google, but maybe I didn't
>> > > > search well enough. Don't have that much time on the net--
>> >
>> > > > Would someone be so kind as to post something of his
>> > > > (not in complete form, of course!) Best to leave out a middle
>> > > > part rather than that essential last line.
>> >
>> > > > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>> >
>> > > > Thank you!
>> >
>> > > > Vera
>> >
>> > > huh? you're copying Bukowski? I think you like
>> > > yourself WAY too much for there to ever be
>> > > any confusion about the two.
>> >
>> > I think someone else compared Vera's style to Buk's, and she doesn't
>> > know much about him, so she is curious.
>> Probably the "chopped-up-prose" thing, I guess,
>> > Someone at the local strip mall said the old man looked like Jimmy
>> > Buffet, so he asked me who he is for much the same reason. My answer
>> > was, "Well, he isn't Warren Buffet; I think he's a musician." I
>> > looked up Jimmy Buffet, and excepting the ubiquitous Hawaiian shirt, I
>> > still think the old man looks more like Teddy Roosevelt. "Bully!"
>> Interesting that Buffett /and/ Roosevelt come to mind constantly when
>> I'm around Barfield, he's got the swashbucking sailor-rough riding
>> warrior poet thing down, and have lived it since I first met him as a
>> kid.
>> On the Buffett angle, here's probably the ultimate JB song-poem:
>> A Pirate Looks At Forty
>> Mother, mother ocean, I have heard you call
>> Wanted to sail upon your waters since I was three feet tall
>> You've seen it all, you've seen it all
>> Watched the men who rode you switch from sails to steam
>> And in your belly you hold the treasures few have ever seen
>> Most of 'em dream, most of 'em dream
>> Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late
>> The cannons don't thunder, there's nothin' to plunder
>> I'm an over-forty victim of fate
>> Arriving too late, arriving too late
>> I've done a bit of smugglin', I've run my share of grass
>> I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast
>> Never meant to last, never meant to last
>> And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
>> I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
>> But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
>> Down to rock bottom again
>> Just a few friends, just a few friends
>> (instrumental)
>> I go for younger women, lived with several awhile
>> Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day
>> Still could manage to smile
>> Just takes a while, just takes a while
>> Mother, mother ocean, after all the years I've found
>> My occupational hazard being my occupation's just not around
>> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>> Coda:
>> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>> -Jimmy Buffett, 1974
>> > Wry little poem by Buk, thanks for posting.
>> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
>> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
>> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
>> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
>> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
>> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
>> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
>> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
>> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
>> killed her."
>> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
>> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
>> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
>> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
>> --
>> "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

> I know Penhead will enjoy this one... ha ha.

Thanks again, Zod.

Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:44 UTC

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 2:46:33 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Jul 24, 10:00 am, baloney wrote:
> >> > "Vera" wrote
> >> >
> >> > > > His name suggests a Polish background.
> >> >
> >> > > > I found little of his poetry in Google, but maybe I didn't
> >> > > > search well enough. Don't have that much time on the net--
> >> >
> >> > > > Would someone be so kind as to post something of his
> >> > > > (not in complete form, of course!) Best to leave out a middle
> >> > > > part rather than that essential last line.
> >> >
> >> > > > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
> >> >
> >> > > > Thank you!
> >> >
> >> > > > Vera
> >> >
> >> > > huh? you're copying Bukowski? I think you like
> >> > > yourself WAY too much for there to ever be
> >> > > any confusion about the two.
> >> >
> >> > I think someone else compared Vera's style to Buk's, and she doesn't
> >> > know much about him, so she is curious.
> >> Probably the "chopped-up-prose" thing, I guess,
> >> > Someone at the local strip mall said the old man looked like Jimmy
> >> > Buffet, so he asked me who he is for much the same reason. My answer
> >> > was, "Well, he isn't Warren Buffet; I think he's a musician." I
> >> > looked up Jimmy Buffet, and excepting the ubiquitous Hawaiian shirt, I
> >> > still think the old man looks more like Teddy Roosevelt. "Bully!"
> >> Interesting that Buffett /and/ Roosevelt come to mind constantly when
> >> I'm around Barfield, he's got the swashbucking sailor-rough riding
> >> warrior poet thing down, and have lived it since I first met him as a
> >> kid.
> >> On the Buffett angle, here's probably the ultimate JB song-poem:
> >> A Pirate Looks At Forty
> >> Mother, mother ocean, I have heard you call
> >> Wanted to sail upon your waters since I was three feet tall
> >> You've seen it all, you've seen it all
> >> Watched the men who rode you switch from sails to steam
> >> And in your belly you hold the treasures few have ever seen
> >> Most of 'em dream, most of 'em dream
> >> Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late
> >> The cannons don't thunder, there's nothin' to plunder
> >> I'm an over-forty victim of fate
> >> Arriving too late, arriving too late
> >> I've done a bit of smugglin', I've run my share of grass
> >> I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast
> >> Never meant to last, never meant to last
> >> And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
> >> I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
> >> But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
> >> Down to rock bottom again
> >> Just a few friends, just a few friends
> >> (instrumental)
> >> I go for younger women, lived with several awhile
> >> Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day
> >> Still could manage to smile
> >> Just takes a while, just takes a while
> >> Mother, mother ocean, after all the years I've found
> >> My occupational hazard being my occupation's just not around
> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
> >> Coda:
> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
> >> -Jimmy Buffett, 1974
> >> > Wry little poem by Buk, thanks for posting.
> >> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> >> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> >> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> >> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> >> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
> >> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> >> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> >> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> >> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> >> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
> >> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> >> killed her."
> >> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> >> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> >> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> >> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
> >> --
> >> "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
> >> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
> > I know Penhead will enjoy this one... ha ha.
> Thanks again, Zod.
>
> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

Your poetry makes Charles Bukowski appear literate.

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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:54 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>

> Thanks again, Zod.

> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

> HTH and HAND.

This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:

********************************

It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.

Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes

"...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
killed her."

and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.

*********************************

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:59 UTC

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Thanks again, Zod.
>
> > Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:
>
> ********************************
> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>
> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>
> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> killed her."
>
> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
> *********************************

You're an imbecile, Stink.

I asked for a *critical analysis* of a poem -- not simply naming a poem he likes because it describes a sexual act.

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:01 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>>

>> Thanks again, Zod.

>> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

>> HTH and HAND.

> This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:

> ********************************

> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.

> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes

> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> killed her."

> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.

> *********************************

Thanks for the no, Zod.

:)

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:12 UTC

General-Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:

>
>> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

>> HTH and HAND.

> This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:

> ********************************

> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.

> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes

> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> killed her."

> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.

> *********************************

Good afternoon, and, again, good find, Zod.

:)_

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 by: Zod - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:22 UTC

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:59:16 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > Thanks again, Zod.
> >
> > > Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.
> >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:
> >
> > ********************************
> > It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> > his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> > compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> > memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> > better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
> >
> > Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> > of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> > poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> > there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> > time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
> >
> > "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> > killed her."
> >
> > and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> > friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> > where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> > they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
> > *********************************
> You're an

Penhead, you are a lying malicious troll a bogus Voodoo boy not to mention a delusional nut job... ha ha.

You are also one stupid mother fucker...

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 by: Zod - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:55 UTC

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 4:15:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >
> >> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.
>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:
>
> > ********************************
>
> > It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
> > his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
> > compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
> > memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
> > better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>
> > Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
> > of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
> > poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
> > there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
> > time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>
> > "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
> > killed her."
>
> > and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
> > friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
> > where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
> > they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
>
> > *********************************
> Good afternoon, and, again, good find, Zod.

Coole... coole....!

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:24 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.
>
>> This section easily fulfills Penhead's request for your thoughts on Buk, Doc:
>>
>> ********************************
>> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
>> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
>> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
>> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
>> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>>
>> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
>> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
>> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
>> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
>> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>>
>> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
>> killed her."
>>
>> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
>> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
>> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
>> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
>> *********************************

> You're an imbecile, Stink.

> I asked for a *critical analysis* of a poem

So what, I'm not here to answer all your demands, Pendragon.

Like Zod says, you're:

"A control freak on an ego trip."

HTH and HAND.

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 11:32 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 2:46:33 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Jul 24, 10:00 am, baloney wrote:
>> >> > "Vera" wrote
>
>> >> > > > His name suggests a Polish background.
>> >> > > > I found little of his poetry in Google, but maybe I didn't
>> >> > > > search well enough. Don't have that much time on the net--
>> >> > > > Would someone be so kind as to post something of his
>> >> > > > (not in complete form, of course!) Best to leave out a middle
>> >> > > > part rather than that essential last line.
>> >> > > > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>> >> > > > Thank you!
>> >> > > > Vera
>> >> >
>> >> > > huh? you're copying Bukowski? I think you like
>> >> > > yourself WAY too much for there to ever be
>> >> > > any confusion about the two.
>
>> >> > I think someone else compared Vera's style to Buk's, and she doesn't
>> >> > know much about him, so she is curious.
>
>> >> Probably the "chopped-up-prose" thing, I guess,
>
>> >> > Someone at the local strip mall said the old man looked like Jimmy
>> >> > Buffet, so he asked me who he is for much the same reason. My answer
>> >> > was, "Well, he isn't Warren Buffet; I think he's a musician." I
>> >> > looked up Jimmy Buffet, and excepting the ubiquitous Hawaiian shirt, I
>> >> > still think the old man looks more like Teddy Roosevelt. "Bully!"
>> >> Interesting that Buffett /and/ Roosevelt come to mind constantly when
>> >> I'm around Barfield, he's got the swashbucking sailor-rough riding
>> >> warrior poet thing down, and have lived it since I first met him as a
>> >> kid.
>> >> On the Buffett angle, here's probably the ultimate JB song-poem:
>> >> A Pirate Looks At Forty
>> >> Mother, mother ocean, I have heard you call
>> >> Wanted to sail upon your waters since I was three feet tall
>> >> You've seen it all, you've seen it all
>> >> Watched the men who rode you switch from sails to steam
>> >> And in your belly you hold the treasures few have ever seen
>> >> Most of 'em dream, most of 'em dream
>> >> Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late
>> >> The cannons don't thunder, there's nothin' to plunder
>> >> I'm an over-forty victim of fate
>> >> Arriving too late, arriving too late
>> >> I've done a bit of smugglin', I've run my share of grass
>> >> I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast
>> >> Never meant to last, never meant to last
>> >> And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
>> >> I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
>> >> But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
>> >> Down to rock bottom again
>> >> Just a few friends, just a few friends
>> >> (instrumental)
>> >> I go for younger women, lived with several awhile
>> >> Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day
>> >> Still could manage to smile
>> >> Just takes a while, just takes a while
>> >> Mother, mother ocean, after all the years I've found
>> >> My occupational hazard being my occupation's just not around
>> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>> >> Coda:
>> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>> >> -Jimmy Buffett, 1974
>> >> > Wry little poem by Buk, thanks for posting.
>> >> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
>> >> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
>> >> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
>> >> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
>> >> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>> >> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
>> >> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
>> >> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
>> >> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
>> >> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>> >> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
>> >> killed her."
>> >> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
>> >> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
>> >> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
>> >> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
>
>> >> "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>> >> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>> >> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>> >> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>> > I know Penhead will enjoy this one... ha ha.
>> Thanks again, Zod.
>>
>> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

> Your poetry makes Charles Bukowski

Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional nutjob who thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: General-Zod - Thu, 1 Feb 2024 22:30 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Michael Pendragon wrote:

>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 2:46:33 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >> On Jul 24, 10:00 am, baloney wrote:
>>> >> > "Vera" wrote
>>
>>> >> > > > His name suggests a Polish background.
>>> >> > > > I found little of his poetry in Google, but maybe I didn't
>>> >> > > > search well enough. Don't have that much time on the net--
>>> >> > > > Would someone be so kind as to post something of his
>>> >> > > > (not in complete form, of course!) Best to leave out a middle
>>> >> > > > part rather than that essential last line.
>>> >> > > > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>> >> > > > Thank you!
>>> >> > > > Vera
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > huh? you're copying Bukowski? I think you like
>>> >> > > yourself WAY too much for there to ever be
>>> >> > > any confusion about the two.
>>
>>> >> > I think someone else compared Vera's style to Buk's, and she doesn't
>>> >> > know much about him, so she is curious.
>>
>>> >> Probably the "chopped-up-prose" thing, I guess,
>>
>>> >> > Someone at the local strip mall said the old man looked like Jimmy
>>> >> > Buffet, so he asked me who he is for much the same reason. My answer
>>> >> > was, "Well, he isn't Warren Buffet; I think he's a musician." I
>>> >> > looked up Jimmy Buffet, and excepting the ubiquitous Hawaiian shirt, I
>>> >> > still think the old man looks more like Teddy Roosevelt. "Bully!"
>>> >> Interesting that Buffett /and/ Roosevelt come to mind constantly when
>>> >> I'm around Barfield, he's got the swashbucking sailor-rough riding
>>> >> warrior poet thing down, and have lived it since I first met him as a
>>> >> kid.
>>> >> On the Buffett angle, here's probably the ultimate JB song-poem:
>>> >> A Pirate Looks At Forty
>>> >> Mother, mother ocean, I have heard you call
>>> >> Wanted to sail upon your waters since I was three feet tall
>>> >> You've seen it all, you've seen it all
>>> >> Watched the men who rode you switch from sails to steam
>>> >> And in your belly you hold the treasures few have ever seen
>>> >> Most of 'em dream, most of 'em dream
>>> >> Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late
>>> >> The cannons don't thunder, there's nothin' to plunder
>>> >> I'm an over-forty victim of fate
>>> >> Arriving too late, arriving too late
>>> >> I've done a bit of smugglin', I've run my share of grass
>>> >> I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast
>>> >> Never meant to last, never meant to last
>>> >> And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
>>> >> I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
>>> >> But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
>>> >> Down to rock bottom again
>>> >> Just a few friends, just a few friends
>>> >> (instrumental)
>>> >> I go for younger women, lived with several awhile
>>> >> Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day
>>> >> Still could manage to smile
>>> >> Just takes a while, just takes a while
>>> >> Mother, mother ocean, after all the years I've found
>>> >> My occupational hazard being my occupation's just not around
>>> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>>> >> Coda:
>>> >> I feel like I've drowned, gonna head uptown
>>> >> -Jimmy Buffett, 1974
>>> >> > Wry little poem by Buk, thanks for posting.
>>> >> It probably goes without saying that Buk's one of my favorites, though
>>> >> his name hasn't come up much lately (the last time was prbably when I
>>> >> compared Chuck's "shock" style to Buk)... Dale Houstman gave me a very
>>> >> memorable paperback book blurb quote when he wrote that I was "...a
>>> >> better poet than Bukowski..." or something similar.
>>> >> Anyhow, I don't have the book handy and no time to Google (a few hours
>>> >> of sailboat repair await today) but "Boarding House Madrigals" is the
>>> >> poetry book of Buk's I'd name as a favorite out of the dozens out
>>> >> there, containing many favorites which were fun to read aloud when the
>>> >> time came to wake up the audience. The one where Buk writes
>>> >> "...My old lady wouldn't let me sleep..." a few more lines "...so I
>>> >> killed her."
>>> >> and the one where he wakes up from a drunken night and finds his
>>> >> friend with his big toes in his old lady's... well, you can guess
>>> >> where, or know the poem already... I might look these up later, if
>>> >> they're online somewhere, and post them here... great stuff.
>>
>>> >> "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>> >> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>> >> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>> >> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>>
>>> > I know Penhead will enjoy this one... ha ha.
>>> Thanks again, Zod.
>>>
>>> Charles Bukowski is an obvious influence on my poetry style.

>> Your poetry makes Charles Bukowski

> Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional nutjob who thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot.

> HTH and HAND.

Quiet, we don't want Pen coming back to respond, let sleeping trolls lie.. ha ha.

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