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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 05:51 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:58:48 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>. . .

>So if a representative or senator dies in office is there generally a
>by-election (in Canada this is arranged by the federal prime minister
>or provincial premier though a by-election is not held if it's within
>a certain number of months - which I can't recall - from the general
>election date) or is the post filled by appointment? And if the latter
>how does the answer change between the federal and state level?

If a seat in the House of Representative in Congress is vacant, there is
a special primary and special election to fill it for the unexpired
term. The Senate was different. If there was enough time till the end of
the six year term, the unexpired term would be filled at the next
general election; the governor would make an interim appointment.

A federal court decision threw that out. Now there is always a special
election held and it won't necessarily be held at the next general
election unless it's close to the election. The governor still makes an
interim appointment, but for a much shorter period of time.

>. . .

>In both countries there is a federal commission for re-aligning
>electoral boundaries every 10 years following the national census.

Not in the United State, no.

>. . .

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 05:53 UTC

A Friend wrote:

>>. . .

>The state governor appoints a replacement U.S. senator. That happened
>in New York when Democrat Bobby Kennedy was murdered in 1968, but the
>Republican governor, Nelson Rockefeller, appointed a Republican to
>replace him. This was to be expected, of course, but it was still seen
>by many as a dick move. The next election wasn't until 1970, and the
>appointed guy lost in a three-way to a third-party candidate, who
>himself turned out to be a one-term wonder.

This is no longer the case due to a federal court decision. The governor
makes an interim appointment but there's now a special election that's
not usually at a general election. See my other followup.

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 by: FPP - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 07:53 UTC

On 9/8/23 1:07 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Sep 2023 04:30:48 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>> lcraver@home.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, that and taking rights away from women, gays, librarians, women,
>>>> trans people, migrants, women, legal voters, seniors, and women.
>>>>
>>>> And, did I mention women?
>>>
>>> Just curious - what "rights" do you feel librarians have lost?
>>
>> Regardless of how he feels or what he believes, there are none that have been
>> lost. What is it about Leftists always making this claim while trying to take
>> away the rights of others?
>
> I don't believe librarians have any special rights above any other
> citizen concerning the contents of the library they work in. Our local
> library regularly has me annoyed when I pass the 'new books' section
> in our local library since that section has a special "DEI"
> sub-section which in Canada usually emphasizes aboriginal peoples
> issues rather than blacks (as is commonly the case in the US. For what
> it's worth aboriginals are about 3-5% varying widely by province
> compared to 12-13% for blacks also varying widely by state)

Well, then you'd be wrong. Again. About America, anyway.

> Librarians could face years of imprisonment and tens of thousands in fines for providing sexually explicit, obscene or “harmful” books to children under new state laws that permit criminal prosecution of school and library personnel.
> At least seven states have passed such laws in the past two years, according to a Washington Post analysis, six of them in the past two months — although governors of Idaho and North Dakota vetoed the legislation. Another dozen states considered more than 20 similar bills this year, half of which are likely to come up again in 2024, The Post found.
> Some of the laws impose severe penalties on librarians, who until now were exempted in almost every state from prosecution over obscene material — a carve-out meant to permit accurate lessons in topics such as sex education. All but one of the new laws target schools, while some also target the staff of public libraries and one affects book vendors.

Read that last paragraph...

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 by: A Friend - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 11:31 UTC

In article <udecsu$3bmju$2@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> A Friend wrote:
>
> >>. . .
>
> >The state governor appoints a replacement U.S. senator. That happened
> >in New York when Democrat Bobby Kennedy was murdered in 1968, but the
> >Republican governor, Nelson Rockefeller, appointed a Republican to
> >replace him. This was to be expected, of course, but it was still seen
> >by many as a dick move. The next election wasn't until 1970, and the
> >appointed guy lost in a three-way to a third-party candidate, who
> >himself turned out to be a one-term wonder.
>
> This is no longer the case due to a federal court decision. The governor
> makes an interim appointment but there's now a special election that's
> not usually at a general election. See my other followup.

Saw it. Thanks.

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 by: suzeeq - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 13:10 UTC

On 9/7/2023 10:03 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:58:48 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>> It would also seem to indicate states could theoretically elect ALL
>>> their Representatives with some other method than first past the vote
>>> in designated electoral districts.
>>
>> Multimember districts are very difficult to do given the federal Voting
>> Rights Act.
>
> Interesting - they're largely an artifact of the past in Canada as
> well.
>
> So if a representative or senator dies in office is there generally a
> by-election (in Canada this is arranged by the federal prime minister
> or provincial premier though a by-election is not held if it's within
> a certain number of months - which I can't recall - from the general
> election date) or is the post filled by appointment? And if the latter
> how does the answer change between the federal and state level?
>
> Of course the biggest single US-Canada legal difference on elections
> is that all US elections are held every 2 or 4 (or 6 for US senators)
> on the statutory election date whereas in Canada there are separate
> elections for federal, provincial or municipal governments (each
> province has their own election day for all municipalities in that
> province)
>
> In both countries there is a federal commission for re-aligning
> electoral boundaries every 10 years following the national census.

In the US there's no federal commission. The state legislatures, or
maybe state commissions, who do the redistricting.

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