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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:16 UTC

Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0

Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
bad, amirite?

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 by: Rhino - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 23:18 UTC

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:16:54 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
> has to be good, right?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
>
> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats
> don't seem so bad, amirite?
>
>

Maybe they "identify" as white, just as Rachel Dolezal "identified" as
black despite having two white parents?

--
Rhino

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 by: RichA - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 23:26 UTC

On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 17:17:09 UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
> that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
> the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
>
> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
> bad, amirite?

I've no doubt more blacks than whites go to prison, as percentage of their population. I've no doubt they don't get the best lawyers or reception from judges, cops.
But equally, I know for a FACT they commit a HUGELY disproportionate amount of CRIME and SO does everyone else, INCLUDING
blacks. So, yes; some are more likely to serve time for the same offense as a white person, but it all comes out in the criminal wash.

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 by: RichA - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 23:28 UTC

On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 19:18:23 UTC-4, Rhino wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:16:54 +0000
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
> > pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
> > why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
> > has to be good, right?
> >
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
> >
> > Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats
> > don't seem so bad, amirite?
> >
> >
> Maybe they "identify" as white, just as Rachel Dolezal "identified" as
> black despite having two white parents?
>
> --
> Rhino

Cue the song, "Pretty fly."

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 by: FPP - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 23:42 UTC

On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
> that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
> the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
>
> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
> bad, amirite?
>
>

Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".

I'm sure you can find a handful somewhere... or you can just dummy up
another nonsensical Dropbox image.

Or run away. Like you usually do when confronted with your own bogus
pronouncements.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 5:17:09 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
> that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
> the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
>
> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
> bad, amirite?

There has to be a joke in there for a sex offender called shorter Brian.

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 by: RichA - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 00:19 UTC

On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 19:42:53 UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
> > that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
> > the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?
> >
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
> >
> > Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
> > bad, amirite?
> >
> >
> Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
> that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".
>
> I'm sure you can find a handful somewhere... or you can just dummy up
> another nonsensical Dropbox image.
>
> Or run away. Like you usually do when confronted with your own bogus
> pronouncements.
>
> --
> "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
> Bible 25B.G.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0
>
> Gracie, age 6.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

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 by: trotsky - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:38 UTC

On 10/23/23 6:42 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
>> pretend
>> that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not
>> just cook
>> the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good,
>> right?
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0
>>
>> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't
>> seem so
>> bad, amirite?
>>
>>
>
> Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
> that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".
>
> I'm sure you can find a handful somewhere... or you can just dummy up
> another nonsensical Dropbox image.
>
> Or run away.  Like you usually do when confronted with your own bogus
> pronouncements.

That's just mean, Oath Keeper Troon is too busy going to his troon shows
for this stuff.

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no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
>> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
>> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
>> has to be good, right?
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png
>>
>> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats
>> don't seem so bad, amirite?
>
>Maybe they "identify" as white, just as Rachel Dolezal "identified" as
>black despite having two white parents?

Don't forget Shaun White!

..

Two American women who were held hostage by Hamas are pushing back on claims
made by far-left activist Shaun King, who claimed that he knew them and that
he helped negotiate their release.

Judith and Natalie Raanan, residents of Evanston, Illinois, located outside
of Chicago, were released by terrorists on Friday. They were in Israel to
�celebrate a relative�s 85th birthday and the Jewish holiday season,�
according to the Times of Israel.

The Jerusalem Post laid out the timeline of King�s claims about his alleged
relationship with those who were released.

Two weeks ago, King claimed that Natalie�s family contacted him and asked him
to help �find [Natalie Raanan] and bring her to safety.�

�Natalie and her family are supporters of mine, protested against police
brutality in the United States with me, and have spoken out against injustice
in Israel,� he wrote. �I believe we have confirmed that she was NOT killed in
Israel, but we are just asking for proof of life right now.�

He claimed that he had the ability to �confidentially help broker her
return.�

Then, after the two were released, he doubled down on his claims that he knew
them and suggested that he helped get them released.

�As I said last week, Natalie and her family have been supporters of mine and
protested police violence in America alongside us,� he said. �I am also
thankful for the Qatari government for helping to negotiate this. Dozens of
us worked frantically behind the scenes to help make this possible. I spoke
to Natalie�s family this afternoon and they are anxiously awaiting more
updates.�

According to a translation of a local Israeli news article, the family
appears to have no idea who Shaun King is.

Journalist Yashar Ali posted a translated version of the statement that the
family made responding to King�s claims.

�Today we came across bizarre posts on the Instagram page of one Shaun King,
who turns out to have millions of followers, who claims that our relative
Natalie Raanan supports the anti-Israeli messages he uploads to his page,�
the statement began. �First and foremost, we make it clear that he is lying!
Our family does not and did not have anything to do with him, neither
directly nor indirectly. Not to him and not to anything he claims to
represent.�

�Natalie told us that this morning it was the first time in her life that she
came across Shaun King�s name and his posts, after she finally got a phone
call after two horrific weeks in captivity in Gaza, and was looking for what
was written about her while she was away,� the family continued. �Shaun King
is trying to catch a ride on the great exposure that her kidnapping received
all over the world and in the U.S. in particular, and the most ridiculous
thing is that Natalie and her mother Judith are very active in Rabbi Hecht�s
Jewish community in Chicago and in the Chabad house, and if Shaun King knew
them or their family he would know that.�

The family encouraged people to thoroughly check things that they see online
before sharing them with other people because many things are false.

�The damage that the sharing of these lies does is so huge, and the effort of
our family and all the families of the abductees should be focused on
bringing them home, and not fighting the lies that are being spread like
wildfire,� the statement continued. �We�re not done, we�ve just started. We
have 2 more murdered in the family and 8 more family members still kidnapped,
and there are over 200 more families in our situation. Now we need the
support of all the people of Israel and all the countries of the world to
bring everyone home as soon as possible!�

Here is the full, translated statement from the Raanan family in
response to Shaun King�s bizarre claim that he played a part in
getting Judith and Natalie Raanan released by Hamas:

"Today we came across bizarre posts on the Instagram page of one
Shaun King, who turns out to�

� Yashar Ali ?? (@yashar) October 21, 2023

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"trotsky" wrote:
>On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
>> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
>> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
>> has to be good, right?
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png
>>
>> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't
>> seem so bad, amirite?
>
>Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
>that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".

Please show us where BTR said "overwhelming".

BTW, I remember a lot of Democrats and supporters of Black Lies Matter said
it, including yourself (if memory serves),

Strawman noted.
Selected memory noted.

>I'm sure you can find a handful somewhere... or you can just dummy up
>another nonsensical Dropbox image.

Well, there you go attacking the messenger when you've lost the debate again!

Ad hominem noted.

>Or run away. Like you usually do when confronted with your own bogus
>pronouncements.

Oh, the irony!

Projection noted.

Get back us when you have a real argument to make.

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In article <uh8ddd$3siet$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> "trotsky" wrote:
> >On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
> >> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
> >> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
> >> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
> >> has to be good, right?
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png
> >>
> >> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't
> >> seem so bad, amirite?
> >
> >Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
> >that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".
>
> Please show us where BTR said "overwhelming".

Effa can't because I didn't. He's just trying to add new qualifications
so he can win on Usenet.

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 by: FPP - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 23:22 UTC

On 10/24/23 12:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uh8ddd$3siet$1@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>> On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>
>>>> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
>>>> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
>>>> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
>>>> has to be good, right?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png
>>>>
>>>> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't
>>>> seem so bad, amirite?
>>>
>>> Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
>>> that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".
>>
>> Please show us where BTR said "overwhelming".
>
> Effa can't because I didn't. He's just trying to add new qualifications
> so he can win on Usenet.

No, you just pointed to ALL "the leftists". That's what's assumed when
you don't qualify a blanket statement. In this case "the" is what's called
'the definite article':

> to say something about all the things referred to by a noun:
>
> (i.e. The wolf is not really a dangerous animal (= Wolves are not really dangerous animals)

"Leftists *IS* a plural noun. Learn how English works, you illiterate moron.

Now answer the question. Show us all the leftists that said "blacks
are only imprisoned due to systemic racism".

Your quote, now back it up. Or you can squirm around and pick some more
nits. (Hint: we know you won't back it up. Lies are hard to back up.)

Dance, Pinocchio, dance.

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to pretend
>that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so why not just cook
>the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it has to be good, right?

>https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png?rlkey=fzl7tt3a41ptaon6k1fesluan&dl=0

>Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't seem so
>bad, amirite?

But this is captured from the Texas state police site! They captured
hundreds of pages with these errors.

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atropos@mac.com wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>> On 10/23/23 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>>>> Those crime stats are real embarrassing for the leftists who want to
>>>> pretend that blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism', so
>>>> why not just cook the books? After all, if it advances the Agenda, it
>>>> has to be good, right?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/595thypipwjs1fyr12iic/WhiteBlackPeople.png
>>>>
>>>> Just list those black folk as white and suddenly the crime stats don't
>>>> seem so bad, amirite?
>>>
>>> Please, show us who the overwhelming number of leftists who have said
>>> that "blacks are only imprisoned due to 'systemic racism'".
>>
>> Please show us where BTR said "overwhelming".
>
> Effa can't because I didn't. He's just trying to add new qualifications
> so he can win on Usenet.

Yeah, his thirst for an "Internet win" is real and desperate.

Speaking of which, he's now feigning reading comprehension problems for his
claim.

--
"Rhino, when do I say things I *can't* back up with citations of
fact? Go ahead... go and find something I stated as fact that you
don't think I can back up."
-- FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>

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