"Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
-George J. Dance

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> -George J. Dance
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

From 11/13/2019:

COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.

Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.

Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):

Bottle bled dry,
Dogs lapping vomit.
Coffee stained fingers,
Fate constrained by stars.

One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.

Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.

And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.

Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.

So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!

General-Zod wrote:

> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> -George J. Dance

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good find, Zod.

🙂

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > -George J. Dance
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> From 11/13/2019:
>
> COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
>
> Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
>
> Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
>
> Bottle bled dry,
> Dogs lapping vomit.
> Coffee stained fingers,
> Fate constrained by stars.
>
> One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
>
> Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
>
> And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
>
> Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.
>
> So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!

Interesting fantasy.

🙂

Will Dockery wrote:

> General-Zod wrote:

>> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
>> -George J. Dance

>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ

>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Good find, Zod.

> 🙂

I thank

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > > -George J. Dance
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> > >
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > From 11/13/2019:
> >
> > COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
> >
> > Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
> >
> > Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
> >
> > Bottle bled dry,
> > Dogs lapping vomit.
> > Coffee stained fingers,
> > Fate constrained by stars.
> >
> > One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
> >
> > Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
> >
> > And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
> >
> > Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.
> >
> > So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!
> Interesting fantasy.

1) You don't know what a fantasy is, and,
2) How does this not describe your own poetry?

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>> > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
>> > > -George J. Dance
>> > >
>> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>> > >
>> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > From 11/13/2019:
>> >
>> > COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
>> >
>> > Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
>> >
>> > Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
>> >
>> > Bottle bled dry,
>> > Dogs lapping vomit.
>> > Coffee stained fingers,
>> > Fate constrained by stars.
>> >
>> > One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
>> >
>> > Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
>> >
>> > And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
>> >
>> > Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.
>> >
>> > So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!
>> Interesting fantasy.

> 1) You don't know

Hush up, you motherfucking fool... ha ha.

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:40:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > General-Zod wrote:
>
> >> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> >> -George J. Dance
>
> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > Good find, Zod.
>
>
> I thank

Good afternoon, Zod, I hope you and Mike are having a great one.

:)

General-Zod wrote:

> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> -George J. Dance

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Again, George Dance nailed it.

🙂

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
>
> > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > -George J. Dance
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> From xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Nobody expected you to agree, Pendragon.

:)

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > > -George J. Dance
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> > >
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > From 11/13/2019:
> >
> > COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
> >
> > Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
> >
> > Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
> >
> > Bottle bled dry,
> > Dogs lapping vomit.
> > Coffee stained fingers,
> > Fate constrained by stars.
> >
> > One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
> >
> > Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
> >
> > And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
> >
> > Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.
> >
> > So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!
> Interesting fantasy.
>
> 🙂

You will never, ever, ever be able to properly define the word "fantasy" to your dying day.
Please make that happen soon.
Die. Die in a fire, you worthless, narcissistic, superficial, smug, ignorant, illiterate piece of shit.

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:55:21 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
> > > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > > > -George J. Dance
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> > > >
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > From xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Interesting fantasy.
> >
>
> You will xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I didn't expect you to admit it, Dink.

:)

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > -George J. Dance
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> From 11/13/2019:
>
> COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
>
> Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
>
> Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
>
> Bottle bled dry,
> Dogs lapping vomit.
> Coffee stained fingers,
> Fate constrained by stars.
>
> One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
>
> Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
>
> And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
>
> Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.

What drugs was this writer on? Poetry is the last thing I see in truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters. The lower, and even middle classes, in general, are not interested in poetry. I've been all over and usually the only people interested in poetry are those that took an interest in it for personal reasons. Poetry, unlike in the past, will now remain a fringe art due to modern multimedia entertainment. If formal poetry is to be replaced by anything, it would be by lyrical poetry such as rap which many people all across the spectrum have found interesting due to it's integration with music. And especially since the music field has exploded with so many people able to become creators in the field.
> So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
>> > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
>> > -George J. Dance
>> >
>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>> >
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

> Poetry is the last thing I see

Yep, you never seemed to be much of a poetry reader, Ash.... ha ha.

General-Zod wrote:

> Ash Wurthing wrote:

>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>>
>>> > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
>>> > -George J. Dance
>>> >
>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>>> >
>>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>

>> Poetry is the last thing I see

> Yep, you never seemed to be much of a poetry reader, Ash.... ha ha.

Now Zod, perhaps Ash knows "all about" poetry, like he does comics.

🙂

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 4:25:07 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:35:15 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
> > > -George J. Dance
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
> > >
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > From 11/13/2019:
> >
> > COLUMBUS, GA is the fastest-growing cultural center in the U.S. (dare one venture in the world?), and two of AAPC's most active members are the driving force behind it all. Will Dockery and George "Stink" Sulzbach are well known throughout Columbus for the street poetry, artwork, music concerts, "indie" publications, underground films and television shows; but their greatest impact on the art world is through the new poetic movement they've established -- Fragmentist Poetry.
> >
> > Fragmentist Poetry combines Imagist Poetry with Minimalism to create what they describe as a "montage" within their readers' minds. Fragmentism pares Imagism down to its barest essentials, i.e., to a series of memory fragments describing persons, places or things. Narrative is abandoned. Form is nonexistent. Mood, message, emotion, tone and theme are barely, if at all, present. English grammar and composition are irrelevant as language exists solely to convey the image fragments.
> >
> > Fragmentism concerns itself only with recording a series of thought-images in a stream of consciousness style. Fragmentism is based upon image association (much like word association wherein individual words have been replaced by two- and three-word descriptive passages):
> >
> > Bottle bled dry,
> > Dogs lapping vomit.
> > Coffee stained fingers,
> > Fate constrained by stars.
> >
> > One reason that Fragmentist Poetry has taken the literary world by storm is that anyone can write it. No education (other than a fourth grade level vocabulary), philosophical insight, imagination or compositional skill is required. This is street poetry in its most literal incarnation. It is the voice of the common man (and woman), evoking images that everyone can relate to.
> >
> > Fragmentist criticism is equally minimalist, often comprising no more than a thimbleful of words ("Outdamnstanding," "One of your best," "Me likee likee," & so on). An in-depth critique seeks only to identify the topic -- as the topic and the poem are necessarily the same. And this, so the Fragmentists argue, is the point. A poem should not be a barrage of words and punctuation attesting to the poet's erudition and grammatical expertise. A poem is the images it evokes.
> >
> > And their argument finds strong support in the field of psychology, which maintains that our unconscious mind is non-verbal and therefore only able to communicate with us through dream symbolism, or imagery. In replicating the dream experience, the poet is directly addressing the non-verbal aspects of our psyche -- our sub-conscious and unconscious selves.
> >
> > Critics have long held that poetry is a dying art form; but that is because they seek for it only in its traditional outlets. The poetry of tomorrow will not be found in the academic journals, but at the truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters.
> What drugs was this writer on? Poetry is the last thing I see in truck stops, dive bars, hobo camps and homeless shelters. The lower, and even middle classes, in general, are not interested in poetry. I've been all over and usually the only people interested in poetry are those that took an interest in it for personal reasons. Poetry, unlike in the past, will now remain a fringe art due to modern multimedia entertainment. If formal poetry is to be replaced by anything, it would be by lyrical poetry such as rap which many people all across the spectrum have found interesting due to it's integration with music. And especially since the music field has exploded with so many people able to become creators in the field.
>

The writer implies that he was drunk on MD 20/20, a fortified, bottom shelf wine popular with the class of individuals his treatise proposes as the poets of tomorrow.

In short, the essay is one of a series of parodic essays written to articulate the supposed poetic principles underlying the illiterate gibberish of the Donkey and his Stink.

He is surprised that the afore-mentioned dimwitted duo have not adopted it as their artistic credo (reverse satire being far beyond their limited range of cognition). For, truth be told, it provides both an accurate description of their collective writings along with an intellectual argument which turns their shortcomings into strengths.

> > So let's all pour ourselves a glass of MD 20/20 and raise a toast to the visionary, literary trailblazers in our midst. Zorro!

General-Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
>>> > > "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraphs..."
>>> > > -George J. Dance
>>> > >
>>> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ
>>> > >
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>>> > From 11/13/2019:
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> Hush up, you motherfucking fool... ha ha.

Pendragon shut up?

Not likely.

:)

General-Zod wrote:
>
> "Certainly his idea that [...] "not written in complete sentences" is a non-starter when it comes to poetry, period. The grammatical units of poetry are lines and stanzas, not (as in prose) sentences and paragraph..."
> -George J. Dance

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/mXC-5dB8YuI/rOjBFX1XAgAJ

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The topic of the day, apparently.