Florida Governor Ron DeSantis criticized former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley
during Wednesday night�s debate in Alabama on the issue of transgender
treatments for minors.

During the fourth Republican presidential debate, hosted by NewsNation,
DeSantis opened up by taking a shot at Haley, saying that �she caves anytime
the Left comes after her, anytime the media comes after her.�

�I did a bill in Florida to stop the gender mutilation of minors. It�s child
abuse, and it�s wrong,� he said. �She opposes that bill. She thinks it�s fine
and the law shouldn�t get involved with it. If you�re not willing to stand up
for the kids, if you�re not willing to stand up and say that it is wrong to
mutilate these kids, then you�re not going to fight for the people back home.
I will fight for you, and I will win for you.�

Haley responded by saying that DeSantis was lying about her record before
speaking about some of the things she accomplished as governor and explaining
why some major Wall Street heavyweights, including a Democratic billionaire,
have backed her campaign.

�In reference to donors coming on board, look, we will take support from
anybody we can take support from, but I have been a conservative fighter all
my life,� Haley said. �I was a Tea Party candidate when I became governor.�

DeSantis responded, �She didn�t respond to the criticism; it wasn�t about the
Parents Rights in Education bill. It was about prohibiting sex change
operations on minors, they do puberty blockers, these are irreversible. Talk
to Chloe Cole � she went through this, now she�s an adult, she�s warning
against it. She may never be able to have kids again. That is what Nikki
Haley opposed.�

�She said the law shouldn�t get involved in that,� he continued. �And I just
asked you if you�re somebody that�s going to be the President of the United
States, and you can�t stand up against child abuse, how are you going to be
able to stand up for anything?�

�I never said that,� Haley responded. �I never said that. I said that if you
have to be 18 to get a tattoo, you should have to be 18 to have anything done
to change your gender.�

�You said the law should stay out of it,� DeSantis responded.

DeSantis slams Haley for her remark: �I think the law should stay
out of it and parents should handle it" in reference to kids and
trans procedures.

DeSantis: "You can't stand against child abuse, how are you going
to be able to stand up for anything?" pic.twitter.com/52acw1iVtL

� Mary Margaret Olohan (@MaryMargOlohan) December 7, 2023

Videos that circulated on social media this week from earlier this year
showed Haley saying that she thought the government should stay out of it.

�What care should be on the table when a 12-year-old child in this country
assigned female at birth says, �actually I feel more comfortable living as a
boy�?� a CBS host said to Haley. �What should the law allow the response to
be?�

�I think the law should stay out of it and I think parents should handle it.
This is a job for the parents to handle,� Haley responded. �And then when a
child becomes 18, they can do that.�

WATCH:

Nikki Haley wants �the law� to ban your anonymous accounts but to
�stay out of� the sexual mutilation of pre-teens
pic.twitter.com/HpCHN8CLe8

� Will Chamberlain (@willchamberlain) December 5, 2023

She went on to say, �But I think up until then � we see with our teenage
kids, they go through a lot in puberty. They go through a lot of confusion,
they go through a lot of anxiety, they go through a lot of pressures. We
should support them, the whole way through, but we don�t need to go in and
force something in schools. We don�t need schools sitting there hiding from
parents what gender pronouns their kids are using. We don�t need to have
those conversations in schools. Those are conversations that should be had at
home.�

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Let's go Brandon!

On Thu, 07 Dec 2023 08:25:48 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

>“What care should be on the table when a 12-year-old child in this country
>assigned female at birth says, ‘actually I feel more comfortable living as a
>boy’?” a CBS host said to Haley. “What should the law allow the response to
>be?”
>
>“I think the law should stay out of it and I think parents should handle it.
>This is a job for the parents to handle,” Haley responded. “And then when a
>child becomes 18, they can do that.”

I'm opposed to the use of the word "assigned" with respect to infants
except in the extremely rare cases where it's actually unclear. And
for those cases I'd support public support for the best possible
medical care in these cases - we're talking single digits in 100000
births here.

Most of the time when "assigned" is used it's with an agenda in mind.
If one chooses that sort of thing at majority so be it - but this
should never be done based only on "feelings"