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* Norman Lear R.I.P.Rhino
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|`- Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.super70s
+* Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.Adam H. Kerman
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`- Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.Woke Ken

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Norman Lear R.I.P.

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 by: Rhino - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 20:17 UTC

It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/

The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in the
right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at all.

--
Rhino

Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.

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 by: moviePig - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 20:59 UTC

On 12/6/2023 3:17 PM, Rhino wrote:
> It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.
>
> https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/
>
> The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
> it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in the
> right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
> nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at all.

He repeatedly broke barriers of discourse ...nearly always a good thing.

Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.

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 by: super70s - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:45 UTC

On 2023-12-06 20:59:19 +0000, moviePig said:

> On 12/6/2023 3:17 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.
>>
>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/
>>
>>
>> The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
>> it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in the
>> right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
>> nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at all.
>
> He repeatedly broke barriers of discourse ...nearly always a good thing.

It's the Trump Silly Season, breaking racial and other societal
barriers "doesn't seem like a very good thing at all" to the
anti-wokester jokesters.

Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:16 UTC

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.

>https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/

>The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
>it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in the
>right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
>nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at all.

Hollywood has always been superior than thou. Social conscience crap
goes back forever.

What can we count as the very first "very special episode"?

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 by: Rhino - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:30 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:16:51 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
> >It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.
>
> >https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/
> >
>
> >The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
> >it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in
> >the right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
> >nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at
> >all.
>
> Hollywood has always been superior than thou. Social conscience crap
> goes back forever.
>
> What can we count as the very first "very special episode"?

The episode where we first heard the toilet flush and learned that
Archie Bunker had to answer the call of nature just like everyone else?

--
Rhino

Re: Norman Lear R.I.P.

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 by: Woke Ken - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:53 UTC

On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 2:17:13 PM UTC-6, Rhino wrote:
> It seems Norman Lear has died at the age of 101.
>
> https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/12/06/norman-lear-producer-of-tvs-all-in-the-family-and-influential-liberal-advocate-has-died-at-101/
>
> The man was unquestionably influential in television but I'm not sure
> it was always in a good way. While his heart may well have been in the
> right place, he seems to be one of the early champions of what we
> nowadays call "woke", which doesn't seem like a very good thing at all.
>
> --
> Rhino

Lear avoided casting Bob Crane in anything, even though Crane had huge chick ratings.

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