Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
>> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > George Dance wrote...
>> > >
>> > > > > >February
>> > >
>> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> > >
>> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > >
>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > >
>> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> > > > perspective.
>> > >
>> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> > collage":
>> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> > happen
>> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> > ubiquity
>> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> > has
>> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> > quiet
>> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> > explicitly.
>> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> > > each repeated three times.
>> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> > > villanelle.
>> > >
>> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> > > they'd work together:
>> > >
>> > > Ever after
>> > > They come,
>> > > she says:
>> > >
>> > > “They come,”
>> > > she says.
>> > > Ever after,
>> > >
>> > > she says:
>> > > “Ever after,
>> > > They come.”
>> > >
>> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> > --
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
>> > Video by Doug Cole.

> Like

<Name-calling and trolling snipped>

I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.

And so it goes.

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >February
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> >> > >
> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > >
> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > >
> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> >> > > > perspective.
> >> > >
> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> >> > collage":
> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> >> > happen
> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> >> > ubiquity
> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> >> > has
> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> >> > quiet
> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> >> > explicitly.
> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> >> > > each repeated three times.
> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> >> > > villanelle.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> >> > > they'd work together:
> >> > >
> >> > > Ever after
> >> > > They come,
> >> > > she says:
> >> > >
> >> > > “They come,”
> >> > > she says.
> >> > > Ever after,
> >> > >
> >> > > she says:
> >> > > “Ever after,
> >> > > They come.”
> >> > >
> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
>
> > Like
>
>
> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
>
> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
>
> And so it goes.

As previously noted, your allegedly pretending to think the entire 9-line poem had been written by George would be an example of facetiousness -- not sarcasm.

You are a very poorly educated man, with a very limited vocabulary. Both forms of humor (sarcasm and facetiousness) are beyond your intellectual capacity.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
>> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > >February
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> >> > > > perspective.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> >> > collage":
>> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> >> > happen
>> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> >> > ubiquity
>> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> >> > has
>> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> >> > quiet
>> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> >> > explicitly.
>> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> >> > > villanelle.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> >> > > they'd work together:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ever after
>> >> > > They come,
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > “They come,”
>> >> > > she says.
>> >> > > Ever after,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > “Ever after,
>> >> > > They come.”
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
>> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
>>
>> > Like
>>
>>
>> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
>>
>> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
>>
>> And so it goes.

> As previously noted

See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.

🙂

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > > >February
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> >> >> > > > perspective.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> >> >> > collage":
> >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> >> >> > happen
> >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> >> >> > ubiquity
> >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> >> >> > quiet
> >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> >> >> > explicitly.
> >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> >> >> > > each repeated three times.
> >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> >> >> > > villanelle.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> >> >> > > they'd work together:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Ever after
> >> >> > > They come,
> >> >> > > she says:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > “They come,”
> >> >> > > she says.
> >> >> > > Ever after,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > she says:
> >> >> > > “Ever after,
> >> >> > > They come.”
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
> >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> >>
> >> > Like
> >>
> >>
> >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
> >>
> >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
> >>
> >> And so it goes.
>
> > As previously noted
> See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.

1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.

Here is your complete post:

[START OF POST]
George Dance wrote...

>
> >February
>
> >Unnoticed dreams:
> >ocean waves in winter,
> >the curve of your cheek.
>
> ocean waves in winter
> the curve of your cheek
> Unnoticed dreams
>
> the curve of your cheek
> Unnoticed dreams
> ocean waves in winter

Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
perspective.
[END OF POST]

It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.

2) George explained that you were mistaken:

Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.

3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:

[START OF POST]
Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
for /arranging/ the lines, at best.

In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
collage":

"...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
"post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
happen
because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
ubiquity
of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
has
become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
quiet
and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."

Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
explicitly.

> But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> each repeated three times.

Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.

> It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> villanelle.
>
> I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> they'd work together:
>
> Ever after
> They come,
> she says:
>
> “They come,”
> she says.
> Ever after,
>
> she says:
> “Ever after,
> They come.”
>
> I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --

Not bad, not bad at all.
[END OF POST]

4) Karla and JR's posts were not examples of "collage." They were examples of parody.

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 10:23:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> > >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > > >February
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> > >> >> > > > perspective.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> > >> >> > collage":
> > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> > >> >> > happen
> > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> > >> >> > ubiquity
> > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> > >> >> > has
> > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> > >> >> > quiet
> > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet...."
> > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> > >> >> > explicitly.
> > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
> > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> > >> >> > > villanelle.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> > >> >> > > they'd work together:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Ever after
> > >> >> > > They come,
> > >> >> > > she says:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > “They come,”
> > >> >> > > she says.
> > >> >> > > Ever after,
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > she says:
> > >> >> > > “Ever after,
> > >> >> > > They come.”
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
> > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> > >>
> > >> > Like
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
> > >>
> > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
> > >>
> > >> And so it goes.
> >
> > > As previously noted
> > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
> 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
>
> Here is your complete post:
>
> [START OF POST]
> George Dance wrote...
>
> >
> > >February
> >
> > >Unnoticed dreams:
> > >ocean waves in winter,
> > >the curve of your cheek.
> >
> > ocean waves in winter
> > the curve of your cheek
> > Unnoticed dreams
> >
> > the curve of your cheek
> > Unnoticed dreams
> > ocean waves in winter
>
> Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> perspective.
> [END OF POST]
>
> It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
>
> 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
> Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
>
> [START OF POST]
> Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> collage":
>
> "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> happen
> because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> ubiquity
> of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> has
> become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> quiet
> and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>
> Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> explicitly.
> > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> > each repeated three times.
>
> Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>
> > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> > villanelle.
> >
> > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> > they'd work together:
> >
> > Ever after
> > They come,
> > she says:
> >
> > “They come,”
> > she says.
> > Ever after,
> >
> > she says:
> > “Ever after,
> > They come.”
> >
> > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>
> Not bad, not bad at all.
> [END OF POST]

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 12:11:07 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 10:23:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> > > >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >February
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> > > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> > > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> > > >> >> > > > perspective.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> > > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> > > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> > > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> > > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> > > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> > > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> > > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> > > >> >> > collage":
> > > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> > > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> > > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> > > >> >> > happen
> > > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> > > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> > > >> >> > ubiquity
> > > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> > > >> >> > has
> > > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> > > >> >> > quiet
> > > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> > > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> > > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> > > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> > > >> >> > explicitly.
> > > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> > > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
> > > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> > > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> > > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> > > >> >> > > villanelle.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> > > >> >> > > they'd work together:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Ever after
> > > >> >> > > They come,
> > > >> >> > > she says:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > “They come,”
> > > >> >> > > she says.
> > > >> >> > > Ever after,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > she says:
> > > >> >> > > “Ever after,
> > > >> >> > > They come.”
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February.."> --
> > > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> > > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> > > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler..
> > > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> > > >>
> > > >> > Like
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
> > > >>
> > > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
> > > >>
> > > >> And so it goes.
> > >
> > > > As previously noted
> > > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
> > 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
> >
> > Here is your complete post:
> >
> > [START OF POST]
> > George Dance wrote...
> >
> > >
> > > >February
> > >
> > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> > > >ocean waves in winter,
> > > >the curve of your cheek.
> > >
> > > ocean waves in winter
> > > the curve of your cheek
> > > Unnoticed dreams
> > >
> > > the curve of your cheek
> > > Unnoticed dreams
> > > ocean waves in winter
> >
> > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> > perspective.
> > [END OF POST]
> >
> > It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
> >
> > 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
> > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> > 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
> >
> > [START OF POST]
> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> > collage":
> >
> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> > happen
> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> > ubiquity
> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> > has
> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> > quiet
> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >
> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> > explicitly.
> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> > > each repeated three times.
> >
> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >
> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> > > villanelle.
> > >
> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> > > they'd work together:
> > >
> > > Ever after
> > > They come,
> > > she says:
> > >
> > > “They come,”
> > > she says.
> > > Ever after,
> > >
> > > she says:
> > > “Ever after,
> > > They come.”
> > >
> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> >
> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> > [END OF POST]
> Glad to clear up your confusion for you, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 12:11:07 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 10:23:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > >February
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> > > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> > > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> > > >> >> > > > perspective.
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> > > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> > > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> > > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> > > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> > > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> > > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> > > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> > > >> >> > collage":
>> > > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> > > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> > > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> > > >> >> > happen
>> > > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> > > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> > > >> >> > ubiquity
>> > > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> > > >> >> > has
>> > > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> > > >> >> > quiet
>> > > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> > > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> > > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> > > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> > > >> >> > explicitly.
>> > > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> > > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> > > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> > > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> > > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> > > >> >> > > villanelle.
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> > > >> >> > > they'd work together:
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > Ever after
>> > > >> >> > > They come,
>> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > “They come,”
>> > > >> >> > > she says.
>> > > >> >> > > Ever after,
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> > > >> >> > > “Ever after,
>> > > >> >> > > They come.”
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February.."> --
>> > > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> > > >> >> > --
>> > > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> > > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> > > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler..
>> > > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Like
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> And so it goes.
>> > >
>> > > > As previously noted
>> > > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>> > 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
>> >
>> > Here is your complete post:
>> >
>> > [START OF POST]
>> > George Dance wrote...
>> >
>> > >
>> > > >February
>> > >
>> > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> > >
>> > > ocean waves in winter
>> > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > >
>> > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > > ocean waves in winter
>> >
>> > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> > perspective.
>> > [END OF POST]
>> >
>> > It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
>> >
>> > 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
>> > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> > 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
>> >
>> > [START OF POST]
>> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> > collage":
>> >
>> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> > happen
>> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> > ubiquity
>> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> > has
>> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> > quiet
>> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >
>> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> > explicitly.
>> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> > > each repeated three times.
>> >
>> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >
>> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> > > villanelle.
>> > >
>> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> > > they'd work together:
>> > >
>> > > Ever after
>> > > They come,
>> > > she says:
>> > >
>> > > “They come,”
>> > > she says.
>> > > Ever after,
>> > >
>> > > she says:
>> > > “Ever after,
>> > > They come.”
>> > >
>> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> >
>> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> > [END OF POST]
>> Glad to clear up your confusion for you, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 12:11:07 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 10:23:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >February
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> >> > > >> >> > > > perspective.
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> >> > > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> >> > > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> >> > > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> >> > > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> >> > > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> >> > > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> >> > > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> >> > > >> >> > collage":
> >> > > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> >> > > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> >> > > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> >> > > >> >> > happen
> >> > > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> >> > > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> >> > > >> >> > ubiquity
> >> > > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> >> > > >> >> > has
> >> > > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> >> > > >> >> > quiet
> >> > > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >> > > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> >> > > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> >> > > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> >> > > >> >> > explicitly.
> >> > > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> >> > > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
> >> > > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >> > > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> >> > > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> >> > > >> >> > > villanelle.
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> >> > > >> >> > > they'd work together:
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after
> >> > > >> >> > > They come,
> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > “They come,”
> >> > > >> >> > > she says.
> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after,
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
> >> > > >> >> > > “Ever after,
> >> > > >> >> > > They come.”
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February.."> --
> >> > > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> >> > > >> >> > --
> >> > > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> >> > > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> >> > > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler..
> >> > > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Like
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> And so it goes.
> >> > >
> >> > > > As previously noted
> >> > > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
> >> > 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
> >> >
> >> > Here is your complete post:
> >> >
> >> > [START OF POST]
> >> > George Dance wrote...
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > >February
> >> > >
> >> > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> >> > > >ocean waves in winter,
> >> > > >the curve of your cheek.
> >> > >
> >> > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > >
> >> > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > > ocean waves in winter
> >> >
> >> > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> >> > perspective.
> >> > [END OF POST]
> >> >
> >> > It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
> >> >
> >> > 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
> >> > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> >> > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> >> > 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
> >> >
> >> > [START OF POST]
> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> >> > collage":
> >> >
> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> >> > happen
> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> >> > ubiquity
> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> >> > has
> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> >> > quiet
> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> >> > explicitly.
> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> >> > > each repeated three times.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >> >
> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> >> > > villanelle.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> >> > > they'd work together:
> >> > >
> >> > > Ever after
> >> > > They come,
> >> > > she says:
> >> > >
> >> > > “They come,”
> >> > > she says.
> >> > > Ever after,
> >> > >
> >> > > she says:
> >> > > “Ever after,
> >> > > They come.”
> >> > >
> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> >> >
> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> >> > [END OF POST]
> >> Glad to clear up your confusion for you, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>
> > Uh... I'm the one who posted the above exchange
> I posted it earlier, Pendragon, you delusional little monkey.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 12:11:07 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 10:23:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > >> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >February
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> >> > > >> >> > > > perspective.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> >> > > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> >> > > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> >> > > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> >> > > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> >> > > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> >> > > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> >> > > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> >> > > >> >> > collage":
>> >> > > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> >> > > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> >> > > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> >> > > >> >> > happen
>> >> > > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> >> > > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> >> > > >> >> > ubiquity
>> >> > > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> >> > > >> >> > has
>> >> > > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> >> > > >> >> > quiet
>> >> > > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >> > > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> >> > > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> >> > > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> >> > > >> >> > explicitly.
>> >> > > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> >> > > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> >> > > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >> > > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> >> > > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> >> > > >> >> > > villanelle.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> >> > > >> >> > > they'd work together:
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after
>> >> > > >> >> > > They come,
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > “They come,”
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says.
>> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after,
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > >> >> > > “Ever after,
>> >> > > >> >> > > They come.”
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February.."> --
>> >> > > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> >> > > >> >> > --
>> >> > > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> >> > > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> >> > > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler..
>> >> > > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > Like
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> And so it goes.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > As previously noted
>> >> > > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>> >> > 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is your complete post:
>> >> >
>> >> > [START OF POST]
>> >> > George Dance wrote...
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >February
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> >> > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> >> > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > >
>> >> > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> >
>> >> > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> >> > perspective.
>> >> > [END OF POST]
>> >> >
>> >> > It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
>> >> > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> >> > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> >> > 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
>> >> >
>> >> > [START OF POST]
>> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> >> > collage":
>> >> >
>> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> >> > happen
>> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> >> > ubiquity
>> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> >> > has
>> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> >> > quiet
>> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> >> > explicitly.
>> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >> >
>> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> >> > > villanelle.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> >> > > they'd work together:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ever after
>> >> > > They come,
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > “They come,”
>> >> > > she says.
>> >> > > Ever after,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > “Ever after,
>> >> > > They come.”
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> >> >
>> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> >> > [END OF POST]
>> >> Glad to clear up your confusion for you, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>>
>> > Uh... I'm the one who posted the above exchange
>> I posted it earlier, Pendragon, you delusional little monkey.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:50:17 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > >> George Dance wrote...
>
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >February
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > >> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> >> > > >> >> > > > perspective.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> >> > > >> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> >> > > >> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> >> > > >> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> >> > > >> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> >> > > >> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> >> > > >> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > > >> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> >> > > >> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> >> > > >> >> > collage":
>> >> > > >> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> >> > > >> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> >> > > >> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> >> > > >> >> > happen
>> >> > > >> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> >> > > >> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> >> > > >> >> > ubiquity
>> >> > > >> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> >> > > >> >> > has
>> >> > > >> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> >> > > >> >> > quiet
>> >> > > >> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >> > > >> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> >> > > >> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> >> > > >> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> >> > > >> >> > explicitly.
>> >> > > >> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > > >> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> >> > > >> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> >> > > >> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >> > > >> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> >> > > >> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> >> > > >> >> > > villanelle.
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> >> > > >> >> > > they'd work together:
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after
>> >> > > >> >> > > They come,
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > “They come,”
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says.
>> >> > > >> >> > > Ever after,
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > >> >> > > “Ever after,
>> >> > > >> >> > > They come.”
>> >> > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > >> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February.."> --
>> >> > > >> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> >> > > >> >> > --
>> >> > > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> >> > > >> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> >> > > >> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler..
>> >> > > >> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > Like
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> <Name-calling and trolling snipped>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I didn't expect you to understand the subtlety and sarcasm of my post, Pendragon.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> And so it goes.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > As previously noted
>> >> > > See above, and admit you were wrong, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>> >> > 1) You responded to George's post without having first read through the thread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is your complete post:
>> >> >
>> >> > [START OF POST]
>> >> > George Dance wrote...
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >February
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> >> > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> >> > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > >
>> >> > > the curve of your cheek
>> >> > > Unnoticed dreams
>> >> > > ocean waves in winter
>> >> >
>> >> > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> >> > perspective.
>> >> > [END OF POST]
>> >> >
>> >> > It is clear from this post that you thought George had written the entire poem.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) George explained that you were mistaken:
>> >> > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> >> > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> >> > 3) Having made a complete fool of yourself, you attempted to cover by posting a long-winded spew comprising a barely relevant quoted by Dale Houstman:
>> >> >
>> >> > [START OF POST]
>> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> >> > collage":
>> >> >
>> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> >> > happen
>> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> >> > ubiquity
>> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> >> > has
>> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> >> > quiet
>> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> >> > explicitly.
>> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> >> > > each repeated three times.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> >> >
>> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> >> > > villanelle.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> >> > > they'd work together:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ever after
>> >> > > They come,
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > “They come,”
>> >> > > she says.
>> >> > > Ever after,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > she says:
>> >> > > “Ever after,
>> >> > > They come.”
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> >> >
>> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> >> > [END OF POST]
>> >> Glad to clear up your confusion for you, Pendragon, you ignorant and delusional little fuckwit monkey.
>>
>> > Uh... I'm the one who posted the above exchange
>> I posted it earlier, Pendragon, you delusional little monkey.