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Unbelievably woke episode with an amazing defense. The writers are
doubling down on infuriating viewers.

Opening titles are a surprise. Tony Goldwyn is not yet in the cast.
Price is interim D.A. Despite the massive amount of paperwork he must
handle, he's still prosecuting cases.

They even film the walk down the hallway with the five actors!

Shaw finds some guy about to jump into the Hudson River and talks him
off. In an amazing coincidence he turns out to be the bad guy.

A black man's wife was experiencing a bad pregnancy and went into
pre-eclampsia. She was taken to the hospital but the doctor failed to
make the right diagnosis. Remember: It's never lupus and it's always
pre-eclampsia. She was sent home, got worse, then died returning to the
hospital.

The husband returned to the hospital with a gun to kill the two doctors
who failed to treat her. He killed one of the doctors and seriously
wounded a nurse. He never found the other doctor. In a big manhunt, Shaw
finds him and, once again, talks him out of suicide.

The hospital was totally uncooperative in providing security footage per
HIPAA. But Maroun talks the judge into forcing the hospital to release
all exterior footage.

Shouldn't Maroun have filed her motion in federal court? State court
cannot pre-empt federal law.

The trial is one big STOOPID after another. Price uses the doctor's
widow as a witness; she has no evidence to offer. This allows the
defense to badger her about statistics concerning the terrible job white
doctors do with black patients. How is this relevant to the case? How
can the doctor's widow possibly offer an opinion?

As usual, Price sits slack jawed and does not object.

In the middle of cross, defense changes plea to insanity! It's by reason
of racism! Price has never heard of this.

The defense has an expert witness! But of course.

Maroun is convinced that the defendent really is a victim, having
suffered through racism not seen since the Jim Crow south. Price buys
it. They offer a plea bargain; Price offers manslaughter with a 10 year
sentence. This is a gift. The defense lawyer tells the client it's a
gift! But the client says "no", still believing that he can raise his
son after the trial.

You start to believe the guy is truly delusional.

Price supoena's a reluctant Shaw to testify that it was all
premeditated. The guy gets convicted.

This was unbelievable crap. Much of what the writers wanted to explore
would have been appropriate for a P.I. trial but it doesn't work in the
context of a criminal trial. The dude wasn't temporarily insane due to
racism but because his wife was dead due to malpractice and he wanted
revenge REVENGE!

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
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> Unbelievably woke episode with an amazing defense. The writers are
> doubling down on infuriating viewers.

Wow; you liked it a lot better than I did.

>
> Opening titles are a surprise. Tony Goldwyn is not yet in the cast.
> Price is interim D.A. Despite the massive amount of paperwork he must
> handle, he's still prosecuting cases.
>
> They even film the walk down the hallway with the five actors!
>

Yeah, that was interesting. But we see Goldwyn in the previews for next
week.

> Shaw finds some guy about to jump into the Hudson River and talks him
> off. In an amazing coincidence he turns out to be the bad guy.
>

What are the odds? And he just lets the guy go home on his own.

> A black man's wife was experiencing a bad pregnancy and went into
> pre-eclampsia. She was taken to the hospital but the doctor failed to
> make the right diagnosis. Remember: It's never lupus and it's always
> pre-eclampsia. She was sent home, got worse, then died returning to the
> hospital.

The doctor got this diagnosis wrong one time before. Therefore, he’s
apparently doing it deliberately to kill Black people? I never really
figured out what the defense was claiming.

>
> The husband returned to the hospital with a gun to kill the two doctors
> who failed to treat her. He killed one of the doctors and seriously
> wounded a nurse. He never found the other doctor. In a big manhunt, Shaw
> finds him and, once again, talks him out of suicide.
>
> The hospital was totally uncooperative in providing security footage per
> HIPAA. But Maroun talks the judge into forcing the hospital to release
> all exterior footage.
>
> Shouldn't Maroun have filed her motion in federal court? State court
> cannot pre-empt federal law.
>
> The trial is one big STOOPID after another. Price uses the doctor's
> widow as a witness; she has no evidence to offer. This allows the
> defense to badger her about statistics concerning the terrible job white
> doctors do with black patients. How is this relevant to the case? How
> can the doctor's widow possibly offer an opinion?
>
> As usual, Price sits slack jawed and does not object.

That was amazing

>
> In the middle of cross, defense changes plea to insanity! It's by reason
> of racism! Price has never heard of this.

Driven to madness, because once he was in an elevator and a woman told him
she’d take the next car.

>
> The defense has an expert witness! But of course.
>
> Maroun is convinced that the defendent really is a victim, having
> suffered through racism not seen since the Jim Crow south. Price buys
> it. They offer a plea bargain; Price offers manslaughter with a 10 year
> sentence. This is a gift. The defense lawyer tells the client it's a
> gift! But the client says "no", still believing that he can raise his
> son after the trial.
>
> You start to believe the guy is truly delusional.
>
> Price supoena's a reluctant Shaw to testify that it was all
> premeditated. The guy gets convicted.

Shaw actually tells Price that he’s going to lie on the stand. How many
times this episode did Shaw deserve to be fired?

>
> This was unbelievable crap. Much of what the writers wanted to explore
> would have been appropriate for a P.I. trial but it doesn't work in the
> context of a criminal trial. The dude wasn't temporarily insane due to
> racism but because his wife was dead due to malpractice and he wanted
> revenge REVENGE!

Yep, this is just terrible. I guess I’ll watch one more just to see Goldwyn
show up. But then it’s done.

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In article <urrvem$148df$1@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Shaw finds some guy about to jump into the Hudson River and talks him
> off. In an amazing coincidence he turns out to be the bad guy.

And since when do cops or any government official just let a guy
experiencing suicidal ideation just walk off after they talk him down
because he says he's okay now?

Shaw should at least get a rip for not detaining the guy and having him
checked out by qualified psychiatric professionals, which he, as a cop,
is not.

> A black man's wife was experiencing a bad pregnancy and went into
> pre-eclampsia. She was taken to the hospital but the doctor failed to
> make the right diagnosis. Remember: It's never lupus and it's always
> pre-eclampsia. She was sent home, got worse, then died returning to the
> hospital.
>
> The husband returned to the hospital with a gun to kill the two doctors
> who failed to treat her. He killed one of the doctors and seriously
> wounded a nurse. He never found the other doctor. In a big manhunt, Shaw
> finds him and, once again, talks him out of suicide.
>
> The hospital was totally uncooperative in providing security footage per
> HIPAA.

Which was fucking ridiculous. HIPAA does not require things like
hospital security cam footage to be treated like Top Secret/SCI national
security material. It prohibits it from being *publicly* released, but
no one would suggest the law would prohibit the police from viewing the
footage in a murder investigation.

And if we take their claim as true for the sake of argument, why would
they even have security cameras in the ER in the first place if no one's
ever allowed to look at the footage in response to a security incident?
Wouldn't the existence of the cameras *themselves* be a HIPAA violation?

> The trial is one big STOOPID after another. Price uses the doctor's
> widow as a witness; she has no evidence to offer.

Yes! I was shouting at the TV, "Why is she on the stand? She wasn't
there when the crime happened." She literally has no relevant testimony.
All she did was answer questions about how wonderful the victim was as a
father, which is not evidence. And the defense didn't even give the
judge the opportunity to make a ridiculous ruling contrary to law by
objecting.

> In the middle of cross, defense changes plea to insanity! It's by reason
> of racism! Price has never heard of this.

No one has. (Except Hollywood TV writers. I miss Hunter and his
never-ending defense of the Hollywood writer. I think maybe the quality
of the writing dipped so badly that he stroked out trying to defend them
and had to retire from Usenet.)

> Maroun is convinced that the defendent really is a victim, having
> suffered through racism not seen since the Jim Crow south. Price buys
> it. They offer a plea bargain; Price offers manslaughter with a 10 year
> sentence. This is a gift. The defense lawyer tells the client it's a
> gift! But the client says "no", still believing that he can raise his
> son after the trial.
>
> You start to believe the guy is truly delusional.
>
> Price supoena's a reluctant Shaw to testify that it was all
> premeditated. The guy gets convicted.

Not only does he get convicted but the entire tone of the show, from the
expressions and body language of all the main characters, was intended
to send the message that, yes, despite everything, a black man like this
will be imprisoned in racist America. Despite the fact that he committed
a premeditated cold-blooded murder, the show's message was, "Feel sorry
for him, he's the real victim here. Because racism."

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <urrvem$148df$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> Shaw finds some guy about to jump into the Hudson River and talks him
>> off. In an amazing coincidence he turns out to be the bad guy.
>
> And since when do cops or any government official just let a guy
> experiencing suicidal ideation just walk off after they talk him down
> because he says he's okay now?
>
> Shaw should at least get a rip for not detaining the guy and having him
> checked out by qualified psychiatric professionals, which he, as a cop,
> is not.
>
>> A black man's wife was experiencing a bad pregnancy and went into
>> pre-eclampsia. She was taken to the hospital but the doctor failed to
>> make the right diagnosis. Remember: It's never lupus and it's always
>> pre-eclampsia. She was sent home, got worse, then died returning to the
>> hospital.
>>
>> The husband returned to the hospital with a gun to kill the two doctors
>> who failed to treat her. He killed one of the doctors and seriously
>> wounded a nurse. He never found the other doctor. In a big manhunt, Shaw
>> finds him and, once again, talks him out of suicide.
>>
>> The hospital was totally uncooperative in providing security footage per
>> HIPAA.
>
> Which was fucking ridiculous. HIPAA does not require things like
> hospital security cam footage to be treated like Top Secret/SCI national
> security material. It prohibits it from being *publicly* released, but
> no one would suggest the law would prohibit the police from viewing the
> footage in a murder investigation.
>
> And if we take their claim as true for the sake of argument, why would
> they even have security cameras in the ER in the first place if no one's
> ever allowed to look at the footage in response to a security incident?
> Wouldn't the existence of the cameras *themselves* be a HIPAA violation?
>
>> The trial is one big STOOPID after another. Price uses the doctor's
>> widow as a witness; she has no evidence to offer.
>
> Yes! I was shouting at the TV, "Why is she on the stand? She wasn't
> there when the crime happened." She literally has no relevant testimony.
> All she did was answer questions about how wonderful the victim was as a
> father, which is not evidence. And the defense didn't even give the
> judge the opportunity to make a ridiculous ruling contrary to law by
> objecting.
>
>> In the middle of cross, defense changes plea to insanity! It's by reason
>> of racism! Price has never heard of this.
>
> No one has. (Except Hollywood TV writers. I miss Hunter and his
> never-ending defense of the Hollywood writer. I think maybe the quality
> of the writing dipped so badly that he stroked out trying to defend them
> and had to retire from Usenet.)
>
>> Maroun is convinced that the defendent really is a victim, having
>> suffered through racism not seen since the Jim Crow south. Price buys
>> it. They offer a plea bargain; Price offers manslaughter with a 10 year
>> sentence. This is a gift. The defense lawyer tells the client it's a
>> gift! But the client says "no", still believing that he can raise his
>> son after the trial.
>>
>> You start to believe the guy is truly delusional.
>>
>> Price supoena's a reluctant Shaw to testify that it was all
>> premeditated. The guy gets convicted.
>
> Not only does he get convicted but the entire tone of the show, from the
> expressions and body language of all the main characters, was intended
> to send the message that, yes, despite everything, a black man like this
> will be imprisoned in racist America. Despite the fact that he committed
> a premeditated cold-blooded murder, the show's message was, "Feel sorry
> for him, he's the real victim here. Because racism."
>

He did have a woman of unspecified race refuse to get in an elevator with
him. Once.

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The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 09:16:55 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>And if we take their claim as true for the sake of argument, why would
>they even have security cameras in the ER in the first place if no one's
>ever allowed to look at the footage in response to a security incident?
>Wouldn't the existence of the cameras *themselves* be a HIPAA violation?

About a year ago I had a fall (fell over a concrete curb while walking
from the parking lot to my favorite ATM in complete darkness - I
wrongly thought I knew the location well enough to make the 100 feet
safely - and went to emergency the next morning) and saw signs all
over the ER waiting area advising of the cameras.

They didn't see anything other than me reading a book and getting up
to visit the loo twice during my 6 hour wait. I was frustrated about
the wait time especially since I was without food and only got water
during those restroom breaks but once I got in they took very good
care of me.