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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:11 UTC

Ganesha Girl on Rankin

Jesus' consort
statuesque beauty blindfolded

labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
built where Lady Katherine lived
the whorehouse grocery
at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.

Old money still spins well
spends well . . .

Northside skyline of many colored glass
Fort Darkness walled in
the giant Temple of Mars visible
from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.

The glittering war machines and masks
not so visible . . .

Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
sit with the projector.

Other worlds surround them.
Scattered money all over them.

A pyramid built from colored bells,
clocks and machinery
I can see from on high . . .

A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.

They stand and face West
as Jesus surveys Lee County
from on high.

Jesus' little sidekick
looks so lonely
dressed in Papal robes,
booklet of poems
and a big cross in his arms.

They're aware of the train wreck
near Goat Rock
instruments spilled from the boxcar.

Liquid bubble cube
ancient animal bones
other things, colored ceramic
at Jesus' feet . . .

Jesus prepares to start up
and operate the Holy Machine.

They've turned their backs
on Shadowville
with its bells and jars,
cars, cupid and crowns,
chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .

Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
floating on a cloud.

~~
Will Dockery, 2003
from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019

---
From the PPB poetry blog:
https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

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 by: Edward Rochester Esq - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:18 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>
> Jesus' consort
> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>
> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> built where Lady Katherine lived
> the whorehouse grocery
> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>
> Old money still spins well
> spends well . . .
>
> Northside skyline of many colored glass
> Fort Darkness walled in
> the giant Temple of Mars visible
> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>
> The glittering war machines and masks
> not so visible . . .
>
> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> sit with the projector.
>
> Other worlds surround them.
> Scattered money all over them.
>
> A pyramid built from colored bells,
> clocks and machinery
> I can see from on high . . .
>
> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>
> They stand and face West
> as Jesus surveys Lee County
> from on high.
>
> Jesus' little sidekick
> looks so lonely
> dressed in Papal robes,
> booklet of poems
> and a big cross in his arms.
>
> They're aware of the train wreck
> near Goat Rock
> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>
> Liquid bubble cube
> ancient animal bones
> other things, colored ceramic
> at Jesus' feet . . .
>
> Jesus prepares to start up
> and operate the Holy Machine.
>
> They've turned their backs
> on Shadowville
> with its bells and jars,
> cars, cupid and crowns,
> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>
> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> floating on a cloud.
>
> ~~
> Will Dockery, 2003
> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>
> ---
> From the PPB poetry blog:
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

Gotta love acid

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:24 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:18:23 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, WillDockery wrote:
>
> > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> >
> > Jesus' consort
> > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> >
> > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > the whorehouse grocery
> > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> >
> > Old money still spins well
> > spends well . . .
> >
> > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > Fort Darkness walled in
> > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> >
> > The glittering war machines and masks
> > not so visible . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > sit with the projector.
> >
> > Other worlds surround them.
> > Scattered money all over them.
> >
> > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > clocks and machinery
> > I can see from on high . . .
> >
> > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> >
> > They stand and face West
> > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > from on high.
> >
> > Jesus' little sidekick
> > looks so lonely
> > dressed in Papal robes,
> > booklet of poems
> > and a big cross in his arms.
> >
> > They're aware of the train wreck
> > near Goat Rock
> > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> >
> > Liquid bubble cube
> > ancient animal bones
> > other things, colored ceramic
> > at Jesus' feet . . .
> >
> > Jesus prepares to start up
> > and operate the Holy Machine.
> >
> > They've turned their backs
> > on Shadowville
> > with its bells and jars,
> > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > floating on a cloud.
> >
> > ~~
> > Will Dockery, 2003
> > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> >
> > ---
> > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> Gotta love acid

"Sgt. Pepper" was one of my favorite Beatles albums (speaking of the influence of LSD), although "Rubber Soul" is probably my all-time favorite of the Beatles.

Hard to pick just one, of course.

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 04:31 UTC

Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>
>> Jesus' consort
>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>
>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>> the whorehouse grocery
>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>
>> Old money still spins well
>> spends well . . .
>>
>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>> Fort Darkness walled in
>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>
>> The glittering war machines and masks
>> not so visible . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>> sit with the projector.
>>
>> Other worlds surround them.
>> Scattered money all over them.
>>
>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>> clocks and machinery
>> I can see from on high . . .
>>
>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>
>> They stand and face West
>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>> from on high.
>>
>> Jesus' little sidekick
>> looks so lonely
>> dressed in Papal robes,
>> booklet of poems
>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>
>> They're aware of the train wreck
>> near Goat Rock
>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>
>> Liquid bubble cube
>> ancient animal bones
>> other things, colored ceramic
>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>
>> Jesus prepares to start up
>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>
>> They've turned their backs
>> on Shadowville
>> with its bells and jars,
>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>> floating on a cloud.
>>
>> ~~
>> Will Dockery, 2003
>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>
>> ---
>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

> Gotta love acid

Have you ever tried it?

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 by: George Dance - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:06 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>
> Jesus' consort
> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>
> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> built where Lady Katherine lived
> the whorehouse grocery
> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>
> Old money still spins well
> spends well . . .
>
> Northside skyline of many colored glass
> Fort Darkness walled in
> the giant Temple of Mars visible
> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>
> The glittering war machines and masks
> not so visible . . .
>
> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> sit with the projector.
>
> Other worlds surround them.
> Scattered money all over them.
>
> A pyramid built from colored bells,
> clocks and machinery
> I can see from on high . . .
>
> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>
> They stand and face West
> as Jesus surveys Lee County
> from on high.
>
> Jesus' little sidekick
> looks so lonely
> dressed in Papal robes,
> booklet of poems
> and a big cross in his arms.
>
> They're aware of the train wreck
> near Goat Rock
> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>
> Liquid bubble cube
> ancient animal bones
> other things, colored ceramic
> at Jesus' feet . . .
>
> Jesus prepares to start up
> and operate the Holy Machine.
>
> They've turned their backs
> on Shadowville
> with its bells and jars,
> cars, cupid and crowns,
> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>
> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> floating on a cloud.
>
> ~~
> Will Dockery, 2003
> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>
> ---
> From the PPB poetry blog:
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.

(1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses..

(2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:02 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> >
> > Jesus' consort
> > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> >
> > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > the whorehouse grocery
> > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> >
> > Old money still spins well
> > spends well . . .
> >
> > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > Fort Darkness walled in
> > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> >
> > The glittering war machines and masks
> > not so visible . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > sit with the projector.
> >
> > Other worlds surround them.
> > Scattered money all over them.
> >
> > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > clocks and machinery
> > I can see from on high . . .
> >
> > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> >
> > They stand and face West
> > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > from on high.
> >
> > Jesus' little sidekick
> > looks so lonely
> > dressed in Papal robes,
> > booklet of poems
> > and a big cross in his arms.
> >
> > They're aware of the train wreck
> > near Goat Rock
> > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> >
> > Liquid bubble cube
> > ancient animal bones
> > other things, colored ceramic
> > at Jesus' feet . . .
> >
> > Jesus prepares to start up
> > and operate the Holy Machine.
> >
> > They've turned their backs
> > on Shadowville
> > with its bells and jars,
> > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > floating on a cloud.
> >
> > ~~
> > Will Dockery, 2003
> > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> >
> > ---
> > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
>
> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
>
> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

Good times.

I'd like to go back and look at /April/ one of those days.

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 19:01 UTC

George Dance wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>
>> Jesus' consort
>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>
>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>> the whorehouse grocery
>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>
>> Old money still spins well
>> spends well . . .
>>
>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>> Fort Darkness walled in
>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>
>> The glittering war machines and masks
>> not so visible . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>> sit with the projector.
>>
>> Other worlds surround them.
>> Scattered money all over them.
>>
>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>> clocks and machinery
>> I can see from on high . . .
>>
>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>
>> They stand and face West
>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>> from on high.
>>
>> Jesus' little sidekick
>> looks so lonely
>> dressed in Papal robes,
>> booklet of poems
>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>
>> They're aware of the train wreck
>> near Goat Rock
>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>
>> Liquid bubble cube
>> ancient animal bones
>> other things, colored ceramic
>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>
>> Jesus prepares to start up
>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>
>> They've turned their backs
>> on Shadowville
>> with its bells and jars,
>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>> floating on a cloud.
>>
>> ~~
>> Will Dockery, 2003
>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>
>> ---
>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.

> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses..

> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

I remember those early days when Senetto was posting as Blackpool Jimmy, a somewhat different persona than he uses now.

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 by: W-Dockery - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:08 UTC

Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
..
>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>
>> Jesus' consort
>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>
>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>> the whorehouse grocery
>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>
>> Old money still spins well
>> spends well . . .
>>
>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>> Fort Darkness walled in
>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>
>> The glittering war machines and masks
>> not so visible . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>> sit with the projector.
>>
>> Other worlds surround them.
>> Scattered money all over them.
>>
>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>> clocks and machinery
>> I can see from on high . . .
>>
>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>
>> They stand and face West
>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>> from on high.
>>
>> Jesus' little sidekick
>> looks so lonely
>> dressed in Papal robes,
>> booklet of poems
>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>
>> They're aware of the train wreck
>> near Goat Rock
>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>
>> Liquid bubble cube
>> ancient animal bones
>> other things, colored ceramic
>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>
>> Jesus prepares to start up
>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>
>> They've turned their backs
>> on Shadowville
>> with its bells and jars,
>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>> floating on a cloud.
>>
>> ~~
>> Will Dockery, 2003
>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>
>> ---
>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

> Gotta love acid

Under the right circumstances, perhaps.

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:10 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> >
> > Jesus' consort
> > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> >
> > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > the whorehouse grocery
> > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> >
> > Old money still spins well
> > spends well . . .
> >
> > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > Fort Darkness walled in
> > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> >
> > The glittering war machines and masks
> > not so visible . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > sit with the projector.
> >
> > Other worlds surround them.
> > Scattered money all over them.
> >
> > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > clocks and machinery
> > I can see from on high . . .
> >
> > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> >
> > They stand and face West
> > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > from on high.
> >
> > Jesus' little sidekick
> > looks so lonely
> > dressed in Papal robes,
> > booklet of poems
> > and a big cross in his arms.
> >
> > They're aware of the train wreck
> > near Goat Rock
> > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> >
> > Liquid bubble cube
> > ancient animal bones
> > other things, colored ceramic
> > at Jesus' feet . . .
> >
> > Jesus prepares to start up
> > and operate the Holy Machine.
> >
> > They've turned their backs
> > on Shadowville
> > with its bells and jars,
> > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > floating on a cloud.
> >
> > ~~
> > Will Dockery, 2003
> > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> >
> > ---
> > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
>
> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
>
> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

"April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?

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 by: George Dance - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:45 UTC

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> > >
> > > Jesus' consort
> > > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> > >
> > > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > > the whorehouse grocery
> > > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> > >
> > > Old money still spins well
> > > spends well . . .
> > >
> > > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > > Fort Darkness walled in
> > > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> > >
> > > The glittering war machines and masks
> > > not so visible . . .
> > >
> > > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > > sit with the projector.
> > >
> > > Other worlds surround them.
> > > Scattered money all over them.
> > >
> > > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > > clocks and machinery
> > > I can see from on high . . .
> > >
> > > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> > >
> > > They stand and face West
> > > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > > from on high.
> > >
> > > Jesus' little sidekick
> > > looks so lonely
> > > dressed in Papal robes,
> > > booklet of poems
> > > and a big cross in his arms.
> > >
> > > They're aware of the train wreck
> > > near Goat Rock
> > > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> > >
> > > Liquid bubble cube
> > > ancient animal bones
> > > other things, colored ceramic
> > > at Jesus' feet . . .
> > >
> > > Jesus prepares to start up
> > > and operate the Holy Machine.
> > >
> > > They've turned their backs
> > > on Shadowville
> > > with its bells and jars,
> > > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> > >
> > > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > > floating on a cloud.
> > >
> > > ~~
> > > Will Dockery, 2003
> > > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> > >
> > > ---
> > > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> > I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
> >
> > (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
> >
> > (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

> "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?

Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.

I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff you can use to navigate and view your own "Shadowville Mythos" blog. Let me show you how using the 2010 issue, the one with "Ganesha Girl" listed.

Starting from any page on the blog:

(1) Scroll down the "Contents" on the left side of the blog page; find and click the year 2010.

A new page will open up, probably with a New Year's Eve poem. You're in the annual archive, which contains all the poems posted that year, starting with the most recent. The "Contents" have changed as well; the blog has collapsed the 2023 contents (to just the year) and expanded the 2010 contents.

(2) Scroll down the "Contents" again; find and click the month April.

A new page should open up. If the top post begins "Welcome to April" you'll know you're there; you're in the monthly archive for April 2010, which is the contents of the first issue.

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 by: Family Guy - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:07 UTC

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:45:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

> > "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?
> Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.
>
> I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff y

Dockery's ability to "learn" is on the same level as teaching a dog to sit or stay. It doesn't always work.

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 by: W.Dockery - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:28 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:45:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
>> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?
>> Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.
>>
>> I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff y

> Dockery's ability

As if a low level troll like you would be able to judge.

HTH and HAND.

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On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:45:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> > > >
> > > > Jesus' consort
> > > > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> > > >
> > > > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > > > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > > > the whorehouse grocery
> > > > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> > > >
> > > > Old money still spins well
> > > > spends well . . .
> > > >
> > > > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > > > Fort Darkness walled in
> > > > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > > > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> > > >
> > > > The glittering war machines and masks
> > > > not so visible . . .
> > > >
> > > > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > > > sit with the projector.
> > > >
> > > > Other worlds surround them.
> > > > Scattered money all over them.
> > > >
> > > > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > > > clocks and machinery
> > > > I can see from on high . . .
> > > >
> > > > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> > > >
> > > > They stand and face West
> > > > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > > > from on high.
> > > >
> > > > Jesus' little sidekick
> > > > looks so lonely
> > > > dressed in Papal robes,
> > > > booklet of poems
> > > > and a big cross in his arms.
> > > >
> > > > They're aware of the train wreck
> > > > near Goat Rock
> > > > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> > > >
> > > > Liquid bubble cube
> > > > ancient animal bones
> > > > other things, colored ceramic
> > > > at Jesus' feet . . .
> > > >
> > > > Jesus prepares to start up
> > > > and operate the Holy Machine.
> > > >
> > > > They've turned their backs
> > > > on Shadowville
> > > > with its bells and jars,
> > > > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > > > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> > > >
> > > > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > > > floating on a cloud.
> > > >
> > > > ~~
> > > > Will Dockery, 2003
> > > > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> > > I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
> > >
> > > (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
> > >
> > > (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.
>
> > "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?
> Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.
>
> I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff you can use to navigate and view your own "Shadowville Mythos" blog. Let me show you how using the 2010 issue, the one with "Ganesha Girl" listed.
>
> Starting from any page on the blog:
>
> (1) Scroll down the "Contents" on the left side of the blog page; find and click the year 2010.
>
> A new page will open up, probably with a New Year's Eve poem. You're in the annual archive, which contains all the poems posted that year, starting with the most recent. The "Contents" have changed as well; the blog has collapsed the 2023 contents (to just the year) and expanded the 2010 contents.
>
> (2) Scroll down the "Contents" again; find and click the month April.
>
> A new page should open up. If the top post begins "Welcome to April" you'll know you're there; you're in the monthly archive for April 2010, which is the contents of the first issue.

Thanks again, I'll have some time to check it out, today.

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 by: Family Guy - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 20:54 UTC

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Family Guy wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:45:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> >> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?
> >> Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.
> >>
> >> I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff y
>
>
> > Dockery's ability
> As if a low level troll like you would be able to judge.
>

I have a college degree in English and have written more than you have brought debris out of your nostrils.
Die in a fire.

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 by: W-Dockery - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 01:41 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Family Guy wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:45:12 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
>> >> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> > "April" is archived at the PPB blog, correct?
>> >> Yes, both issues are logged there. For 3 poets, the poems no longer appear, but there are links to their poems.
>> >>
>> >> I won't give you a link, though. Instead I'll tell you how to navigate to the poem in two clicks. It's better that you do it that way, because in the process you'll be learning new stuff y
>>
>>
>> > Dockery's ability
>> As if a low level troll like you would be able to judge.
>>

>
> Die in a fire.

Your incessant death fantasy is noted, again.

And so it goes.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 09:54 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> >
> > Jesus' consort
> > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> >
> > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > the whorehouse grocery
> > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> >
> > Old money still spins well
> > spends well . . .
> >
> > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > Fort Darkness walled in
> > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> >
> > The glittering war machines and masks
> > not so visible . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > sit with the projector.
> >
> > Other worlds surround them.
> > Scattered money all over them.
> >
> > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > clocks and machinery
> > I can see from on high . . .
> >
> > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> >
> > They stand and face West
> > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > from on high.
> >
> > Jesus' little sidekick
> > looks so lonely
> > dressed in Papal robes,
> > booklet of poems
> > and a big cross in his arms.
> >
> > They're aware of the train wreck
> > near Goat Rock
> > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> >
> > Liquid bubble cube
> > ancient animal bones
> > other things, colored ceramic
> > at Jesus' feet . . .
> >
> > Jesus prepares to start up
> > and operate the Holy Machine.
> >
> > They've turned their backs
> > on Shadowville
> > with its bells and jars,
> > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > floating on a cloud.
> >
> > ~~
> > Will Dockery, 2003
> > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> >
> > ---
> > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
>
> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
>
> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

This is poem takes place way ahead in the future, by the way, written in 1996 about the events of 1995.

For continuity in placement in the epic.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:05 UTC

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 7:06:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > Ganesha Girl on Rankin
> >
> > Jesus' consort
> > statuesque beauty blindfolded
> >
> > labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
> > built where Lady Katherine lived
> > the whorehouse grocery
> > at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
> >
> > Old money still spins well
> > spends well . . .
> >
> > Northside skyline of many colored glass
> > Fort Darkness walled in
> > the giant Temple of Mars visible
> > from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
> >
> > The glittering war machines and masks
> > not so visible . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
> > sit with the projector.
> >
> > Other worlds surround them.
> > Scattered money all over them.
> >
> > A pyramid built from colored bells,
> > clocks and machinery
> > I can see from on high . . .
> >
> > A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
> >
> > They stand and face West
> > as Jesus surveys Lee County
> > from on high.
> >
> > Jesus' little sidekick
> > looks so lonely
> > dressed in Papal robes,
> > booklet of poems
> > and a big cross in his arms.
> >
> > They're aware of the train wreck
> > near Goat Rock
> > instruments spilled from the boxcar.
> >
> > Liquid bubble cube
> > ancient animal bones
> > other things, colored ceramic
> > at Jesus' feet . . .
> >
> > Jesus prepares to start up
> > and operate the Holy Machine.
> >
> > They've turned their backs
> > on Shadowville
> > with its bells and jars,
> > cars, cupid and crowns,
> > chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
> >
> > Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
> > floating on a cloud.
> >
> > ~~
> > Will Dockery, 2003
> > from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
> >
> > ---
> > From the PPB poetry blog:
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html
> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.
>
> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses.
>
> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

Well, we know Nancy Gene is reading, since she commented elsewhere.

<Waves at Nancy Gene>

🙂

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 by: W-Dockery - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 13:14 UTC

NancyGene wrote:

> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:54:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> This is poem takes place way ahead in the future, by the way, written in 1996 about the events of 1995.
>>
>> For continuity in placement in the epic.

> F. Scott Fitzgerald is jealous.

And you hang on every word I type.

🙂

(Moved from the troll thread.)

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 02:02 UTC

Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>
>> Jesus' consort
>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>
>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>> the whorehouse grocery
>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>
>> Old money still spins well
>> spends well . . .
>>
>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>> Fort Darkness walled in
>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>
>> The glittering war machines and masks
>> not so visible . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>> sit with the projector.
>>
>> Other worlds surround them.
>> Scattered money all over them.
>>
>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>> clocks and machinery
>> I can see from on high . . .
>>
>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>
>> They stand and face West
>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>> from on high.
>>
>> Jesus' little sidekick
>> looks so lonely
>> dressed in Papal robes,
>> booklet of poems
>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>
>> They're aware of the train wreck
>> near Goat Rock
>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>
>> Liquid bubble cube
>> ancient animal bones
>> other things, colored ceramic
>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>
>> Jesus prepares to start up
>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>
>> They've turned their backs
>> on Shadowville
>> with its bells and jars,
>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>> floating on a cloud.
>>
>> ~~
>> Will Dockery, 2003
>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>
>> ---
>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

> Gotta love acid

Except you have no idea, right?

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:14 UTC

George Dance wrote:

> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 6:56:16 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:54:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > This is poem takes place way ahead in the future, by the way, written in 1996 about the events of 1995.
>> >
>> > For continuity in placement in the epic.
>>
>> F. Scott Fitzgerald is jealous.

> The "is" shouldn't be there, of course, but that looks more like hasty editing than anything: he probably started writing "This is a poem that ..." and then realized midway that he could just say "This poem ..." instead. I don't think that a post someone sends me from their phone reflects on their mastery of grammar.

> As for his "logic", you may be referring to his calling 1995 the "far future." It was clear to me that Will was referring to the background context, the hundreds of posts on the group this month (which you may have skipped, and I wouldn't blame you) about another part of his "epic" that took place in 1981.

Thanks for setting the record straight, George.

Yes, 1996 definitely was the "far future" from the 1981 setting.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 20:08 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 1:08:26 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 6:56:16 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:54:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > > This is poem takes place way ahead in the future, by the way, written in 1996 about the events of 1995.
>> > >
>> > > For continuity in placement in the epic.
>> >
>> > F. Scott Fitzgerald is jealous.
>> The "is" shouldn't be there, of course, but that looks more like hasty editing than anything: he probably started writing "This is a poem that ..." and then realized midway that he could just say "This poem ..." instead. I don't think that a post someone sends me from their phone reflects on their mastery of grammar.
>>
>> As for his "logic", you may be referring to his calling 1995 the "far future." It was clear to me that Will was referring to the background context, the hundreds of posts on the group this month (which you may have skipped, and I wouldn't blame you) about another part of his "epic" that took place in 1981.

> what about

What about your obsessive trolling, Dink?

(Moved from the troll thread.)

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:49 UTC

George Dance wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>
>> Jesus' consort
>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>
>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>> the whorehouse grocery
>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>
>> Old money still spins well
>> spends well . . .
>>
>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>> Fort Darkness walled in
>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>
>> The glittering war machines and masks
>> not so visible . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>> sit with the projector.
>>
>> Other worlds surround them.
>> Scattered money all over them.
>>
>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>> clocks and machinery
>> I can see from on high . . .
>>
>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>
>> They stand and face West
>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>> from on high.
>>
>> Jesus' little sidekick
>> looks so lonely
>> dressed in Papal robes,
>> booklet of poems
>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>
>> They're aware of the train wreck
>> near Goat Rock
>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>
>> Liquid bubble cube
>> ancient animal bones
>> other things, colored ceramic
>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>
>> Jesus prepares to start up
>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>
>> They've turned their backs
>> on Shadowville
>> with its bells and jars,
>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>
>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>> floating on a cloud.
>>
>> ~~
>> Will Dockery, 2003
>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>
>> ---
>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.

> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses..

> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

Before my timer but of interest...

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 20:20 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> George Dance wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>> Ganesha Girl on Rankin
>>>
>>> Jesus' consort
>>> statuesque beauty blindfolded
>>>
>>> labia lipped skyscraper built on the spot
>>> built where Lady Katherine lived
>>> the whorehouse grocery
>>> at the edge of Linwood Cemetery.
>>>
>>> Old money still spins well
>>> spends well . . .
>>>
>>> Northside skyline of many colored glass
>>> Fort Darkness walled in
>>> the giant Temple of Mars visible
>>> from behind the walls, silvery, ancient.
>>>
>>> The glittering war machines and masks
>>> not so visible . . .
>>>
>>> Ganesha Girl and silver skinned alien
>>> sit with the projector.
>>>
>>> Other worlds surround them.
>>> Scattered money all over them.
>>>
>>> A pyramid built from colored bells,
>>> clocks and machinery
>>> I can see from on high . . .
>>>
>>> A giant housefly feeds on Green Island.
>>>
>>> They stand and face West
>>> as Jesus surveys Lee County
>>> from on high.
>>>
>>> Jesus' little sidekick
>>> looks so lonely
>>> dressed in Papal robes,
>>> booklet of poems
>>> and a big cross in his arms.
>>>
>>> They're aware of the train wreck
>>> near Goat Rock
>>> instruments spilled from the boxcar.
>>>
>>> Liquid bubble cube
>>> ancient animal bones
>>> other things, colored ceramic
>>> at Jesus' feet . . .
>>>
>>> Jesus prepares to start up
>>> and operate the Holy Machine.
>>>
>>> They've turned their backs
>>> on Shadowville
>>> with its bells and jars,
>>> cars, cupid and crowns,
>>> chains, old clocks, an hour glass . . .
>>>
>>> Ganesha Girl, happy in her bathing suit
>>> floating on a cloud.
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> Will Dockery, 2003
>>> from Selected Poems, 1976-2019, 2019
>>>
>>> ---
>>> From the PPB poetry blog:
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/ganesha-girl-on-rankin-will-dockery.html

>> I'm glad to see that poem back on the group, Will. It brought back some fond memories.

>> (1) I'd call that my first venture at "editing" your work. Let me state up front that *all* I did was give you the idea of using the ellipses. It came up when you first posted the poem; back in those days, it was far more common for people to post poems here and for others to give them helpful criticism. I said then (and still do) that the poem reads like a dream, with a rapid succession of scene changes. But I thought that you should indicate those changes. I gave you a couple of options, and you went for the ellipses..

>> (2) It's the first poem you gave me (a copy of) for PPB, back when I was editing /April/ magazine. I was looking at the "April" contributors this morning, and while there are quite a few aapc poets represented, it looks like you and Jim Senetto are the only ones besides me still here.

> Before my timer but of interest...

Thanks again for reading and commenting.

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