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by: Will Dockery - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:27 UTC

She Loves Bossa Nova

She loves Bossa Nova
rare steaks
rain sticks
Sinatra.
And red red wine.

She's real
and sometimes sparks
with spoken words
spoken loud.
Just like the
Statue of Liberty.
Standing tall and proud
Along the long way
long way around.

Brown sugar baby
backyard blues
Maybe it was intimidation
quiet infatuation.
I was coming down home
fell down, down, down
into silver blazing dawn.

On the long way
overheard on the sidewalk
she said "I love you."
somehow I did not understand.
Overheard on the street
out on the sidewalk
taking the long way
long way around.

I didn't know
she was crying.
I didn't think
it'd be that way
didn't think
she would get so serious.
The guitar played
C, D...

She likes city lights
she could name all the Saints.
And the darkness
she said it made her so lonely.

She loves Bossa Nova
rare steaks
rain sticks
Sinatra.
And red red wine.
On the long way
long way around.

-Will Dockery

--
"She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:

https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

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by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 06:23 UTC

> She Loves Bossa Nova
>
> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.
>
> She's real
> and sometimes sparks
> with spoken words
> spoken loud.
> Just like the
> Statue of Liberty.
> Standing tall and proud
> Along the long way
> long way around.
>
> Brown sugar baby
> backyard blues
> Maybe it was intimidation
> quiet infatuation.
> I was coming down home
> fell down, down, down
> into silver blazing dawn.
>
> On the long way
> overheard on the sidewalk
> she said "I love you."
> somehow I did not understand.
> Overheard on the street
> out on the sidewalk
> taking the long way
> long way around.
>
> I didn't know
> she was crying.
> I didn't think
> it'd be that way
> didn't think
> she would get so serious.
> The guitar played
> C, D...
>
> She likes city lights
> she could name all the Saints.
> And the darkness
> she said it made her so lonely.
>
> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.
> On the long way
> long way around.
>
> -Will Dockery
>
> --
> "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>
> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

Poem about the events of late 2007.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 12:37 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >
> > She loves Bossa Nova
> > rare steaks
> > rain sticks
> > Sinatra.
> > And red red wine.
> >
> > She's real
> > and sometimes sparks
> > with spoken words
> > spoken loud.
> > Just like the
> > Statue of Liberty.
> > Standing tall and proud
> > Along the long way
> > long way around.
> >
> > Brown sugar baby
> > backyard blues
> > Maybe it was intimidation
> > quiet infatuation.
> > I was coming down home
> > fell down, down, down
> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >
> > On the long way
> > overheard on the sidewalk
> > she said "I love you."
> > somehow I did not understand.
> > Overheard on the street
> > out on the sidewalk
> > taking the long way
> > long way around.
> >
> > I didn't know
> > she was crying.
> > I didn't think
> > it'd be that way
> > didn't think
> > she would get so serious.
> > The guitar played
> > C, D...
> >
> > She likes city lights
> > she could name all the Saints.
> > And the darkness
> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >
> > She loves Bossa Nova
> > rare steaks
> > rain sticks
> > Sinatra.
> > And red red wine.
> > On the long way
> > long way around.
> >
> > -Will Dockery
> >
> > --
> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >
> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> Poem about the events of late 2007.

Please explain what makes this a poem, Donkey.

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 14:26 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>> >
>> > She's real
>> > and sometimes sparks
>> > with spoken words
>> > spoken loud.
>> > Just like the
>> > Statue of Liberty.
>> > Standing tall and proud
>> > Along the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > Brown sugar baby
>> > backyard blues
>> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> > quiet infatuation.
>> > I was coming down home
>> > fell down, down, down
>> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >
>> > On the long way
>> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> > she said "I love you."
>> > somehow I did not understand.
>> > Overheard on the street
>> > out on the sidewalk
>> > taking the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > I didn't know
>> > she was crying.
>> > I didn't think
>> > it'd be that way
>> > didn't think
>> > she would get so serious.
>> > The guitar played
>> > C, D...
>> >
>> > She likes city lights
>> > she could name all the Saints.
>> > And the darkness
>> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>> > On the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > -Will Dockery
>> >
>> > --
>> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >
>> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> Poem about the events of late 2007.

> Please explain what makes this a poem

Troll much, you delusional little monkey?

🙂

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:27 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:30:12 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >
> >> > She's real
> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> > with spoken words
> >> > spoken loud.
> >> > Just like the
> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> > Along the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> > backyard blues
> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> > I was coming down home
> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >
> >> > On the long way
> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> > taking the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > I didn't know
> >> > she was crying.
> >> > I didn't think
> >> > it'd be that way
> >> > didn't think
> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> > The guitar played
> >> > C, D...
> >> >
> >> > She likes city lights
> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> > And the darkness
> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >> > On the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>
> > Please explain what makes this a poem
> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?

This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.

I am asking you what makes the above a poem.

Discuss.

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:35 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:30:12 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >
>> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> > rare steaks
>> >> > rain sticks
>> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >
>> >> > She's real
>> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> > with spoken words
>> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> > Just like the
>> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> > Along the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >> >
>> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> > backyard blues
>> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >> >
>> >> > On the long way
>> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> > taking the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >> >
>> >> > I didn't know
>> >> > she was crying.
>> >> > I didn't think
>> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> > didn't think
>> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> > The guitar played
>> >> > C, D...
>> >> >
>> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> > And the darkness
>> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >> >
>> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> > rare steaks
>> >> > rain sticks
>> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> > On the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>>
>> > Please explain what makes this a poem
>> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?

> This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.

> I am asking you what makes the above a poem.

> Discuss.

I know you keep asking that over and over.

You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:49 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:30:12 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >
> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > She's real
> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> >> > with spoken words
> >> >> > spoken loud.
> >> >> > Just like the
> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> >> > Along the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> >> > backyard blues
> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> >> > I was coming down home
> >> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> >> > taking the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I didn't know
> >> >> > she was crying.
> >> >> > I didn't think
> >> >> > it'd be that way
> >> >> > didn't think
> >> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> >> > The guitar played
> >> >> > C, D...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > She likes city lights
> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> >> > And the darkness
> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
> >>
> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
>
> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
>
> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
>
> > Discuss.
> I know you keep asking that over and over.
>
> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
>

Yes, I do. However, it is equally obvious to me that you do not.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing that the above song lyric may, in fact, be a poem, and that my more traditional p.o.v. is preventing me from seeing it as such.

If this is the case, I am asking you to enlighten me as to how the above is a poem.

If you are unable to do so, I shall be forced to conclude that it is not.

BTW: Are you familiar aware that the refrain in your lyric is borrowed verbatim from a popular song by Neil Diamond?

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:10 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She's real
>> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> >> > with spoken words
>> >> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> >> > Just like the
>> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> >> > Along the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> >> > backyard blues
>> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> >> > taking the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I didn't know
>> >> >> > she was crying.
>> >> >> > I didn't think
>> >> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> >> > didn't think
>> >> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> >> > The guitar played
>> >> >> > C, D...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> >> > And the darkness
>> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:

https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

>> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>> >>
>> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
>> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
>>
>> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
>>
>> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
>>
>> > Discuss.
>> I know you keep asking that over and over.
>>
>> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
>>

> Yes, I do

In your own delusional way, of course.

By the way, even I know how absurd and pathetic your delusions of being a better poet than William Carlos Williams, T.S. Eliot and E.E. Cummings are, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:22 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:15:11 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She's real
> >> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> >> >> > with spoken words
> >> >> >> > spoken loud.
> >> >> >> > Just like the
> >> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> >> >> > Along the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> >> >> > backyard blues
> >> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> >> >> > I was coming down home
> >> >> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> >> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> >> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> >> >> > taking the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I didn't know
> >> >> >> > she was crying.
> >> >> >> > I didn't think
> >> >> >> > it'd be that way
> >> >> >> > didn't think
> >> >> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> >> >> > The guitar played
> >> >> >> > C, D...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She likes city lights
> >> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> >> >> > And the darkness
> >> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>
> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>
> >> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
> >> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
> >>
> >> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
> >>
> >> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
> >>
> >> > Discuss.
> >> I know you keep asking that over and over.
> >>
> >> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
> >>
>
> > Yes, I do
> In your own delusional way, of course.
>
> By the way, even I know how absurd and pathetic your delusions of being a better poet than William Carlos Williams, T.S. Eliot and E.E. Cummings are, Pendragon.
>

Far less so than your claim to be a poet of any sort.

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:29 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:15:11 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She's real
>> >> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> >> >> > with spoken words
>> >> >> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> >> >> > Just like the
>> >> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> >> >> > Along the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> >> >> > backyard blues
>> >> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> >> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> >> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> >> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> >> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> >> >> > taking the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I didn't know
>> >> >> >> > she was crying.
>> >> >> >> > I didn't think
>> >> >> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> >> >> > didn't think
>> >> >> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> >> >> > The guitar played
>> >> >> >> > C, D...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> >> >> > And the darkness
>> >> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>>
>> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>>
>> >> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
>> >> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
>> >>
>> >> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
>> >>
>> >> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
>> >>
>> >> > Discuss.
>> >> I know you keep asking that over and over.
>> >>
>> >> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
>> >>
>>
>> > Yes, I do
>> In your own delusional way, of course.
>>
>> By the way, even I know how absurd and pathetic your delusions of being a better poet than William Carlos Williams, T.S. Eliot and E.E. Cummings are, Pendragon.
>>

> Far less so

Spoken like a truly delusional fuckwit.

🙂

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:44 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She's real
>> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> >> > with spoken words
>> >> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> >> > Just like the
>> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> >> > Along the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> >> > backyard blues
>> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> >> > taking the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I didn't know
>> >> >> > she was crying.
>> >> >> > I didn't think
>> >> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> >> > didn't think
>> >> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> >> > The guitar played
>> >> >> > C, D...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> >> > And the darkness
>> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>> >>
>> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
>> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
>>
>> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
>>
>> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
>>
>> > Discuss.
>> I know you keep asking that over and over.
>>
>> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
>>

> BTW: Are you familiar aware that the refrain in your lyric is borrowed verbatim from a popular song by Neil Diamond?

Of course I'm familiar with Neil Diamond's songs.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:06 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:45:10 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She's real
> >> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> >> >> > with spoken words
> >> >> >> > spoken loud.
> >> >> >> > Just like the
> >> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> >> >> > Along the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> >> >> > backyard blues
> >> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> >> >> > I was coming down home
> >> >> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> >> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> >> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> >> >> > taking the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I didn't know
> >> >> >> > she was crying.
> >> >> >> > I didn't think
> >> >> >> > it'd be that way
> >> >> >> > didn't think
> >> >> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> >> >> > The guitar played
> >> >> >> > C, D...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She likes city lights
> >> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> >> >> > And the darkness
> >> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
> >> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
> >>
> >> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
> >>
> >> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
> >>
> >> > Discuss.
> >> I know you keep asking that over and over.
> >>
> >> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
> >>
>
> >
> > BTW: Are you familiar aware that the refrain in your lyric is borrowed verbatim from a popular song by Neil Diamond?
> Of course I'm familiar with Neil Diamond's songs.

Makes your lyric a bit derivative, don't you think?

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by: W.Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:15 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:45:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 2:24:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She's real
>> >> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> >> >> > with spoken words
>> >> >> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> >> >> > Just like the
>> >> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> >> >> > Along the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> >> >> > backyard blues
>> >> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> >> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> >> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> >> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> >> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> >> >> > taking the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I didn't know
>> >> >> >> > she was crying.
>> >> >> >> > I didn't think
>> >> >> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> >> >> > didn't think
>> >> >> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> >> >> > The guitar played
>> >> >> >> > C, D...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> >> >> > And the darkness
>> >> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> >> >> > rare steaks
>> >> >> >> > rain sticks
>> >> >> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> >> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> >> >> > On the long way
>> >> >> >> > long way around.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> >> >> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Please explain what makes this a poem
>> >> >> Troll much, you delusional little monkey?
>> >>
>> >> > This is a poetry discussion group, Donkey.
>> >>
>> >> > I am asking you what makes the above a poem.
>> >>
>> >> > Discuss.
>> >> I know you keep asking that over and over.
>> >>
>> >> You think you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams and E.E. Cummings so you apparently know what a poem is already.
>> >>
>>
>> >
>> > BTW: Are you familiar aware that the refrain in your lyric is borrowed verbatim from a popular song by Neil Diamond?
>> Of course I'm familiar with Neil Diamond's songs.

> Makes your lyric a bit derivative, don't you think?

No, not at all.

My poem is different from the Neil Diamond lyric.

Compare them and see.

🙂

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by: W.Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:20 UTC

> She Loves Bossa Nova

> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.

> She's real
> and sometimes sparks
> with spoken words
> spoken loud.
> Just like the
> Statue of Liberty.
> Standing tall and proud
> Along the long way
> long way around.

> Brown sugar baby
> backyard blues
> Maybe it was intimidation
> quiet infatuation.
> I was coming down home
> fell down, down, down
> into silver blazing dawn.

> On the long way
> overheard on the sidewalk
> she said "I love you."
> somehow I did not understand.
> Overheard on the street
> out on the sidewalk
> taking the long way
> long way around.

> I didn't know
> she was crying.
> I didn't think
> it'd be that way
> didn't think
> she would get so serious.
> The guitar played
> C, D...

> She likes city lights
> she could name all the Saints.
> And the darkness
> she said it made her so lonely.

> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.
> On the long way
> long way around.

> -Will Dockery

> --
> "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:

> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:

https://youtu.be/BeJ55sUacPM

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:45 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>
> > She loves Bossa Nova
> > rare steaks
> > rain sticks
> > Sinatra.
> > And red red wine.
>
> > She's real
> > and sometimes sparks
> > with spoken words
> > spoken loud.
> > Just like the
> > Statue of Liberty.
> > Standing tall and proud
> > Along the long way
> > long way around.
>
> > Brown sugar baby
> > backyard blues
> > Maybe it was intimidation
> > quiet infatuation.
> > I was coming down home
> > fell down, down, down
> > into silver blazing dawn.
>
> > On the long way
> > overheard on the sidewalk
> > she said "I love you."
> > somehow I did not understand.
> > Overheard on the street
> > out on the sidewalk
> > taking the long way
> > long way around.
>
> > I didn't know
> > she was crying.
> > I didn't think
> > it'd be that way
> > didn't think
> > she would get so serious.
> > The guitar played
> > C, D...
>
> > She likes city lights
> > she could name all the Saints.
> > And the darkness
> > she said it made her so lonely.
>
> > She loves Bossa Nova
> > rare steaks
> > rain sticks
> > Sinatra.
> > And red red wine.
> > On the long way
> > long way around.
>
> > -Will Dockery
>
> > --
> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>
> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:

It's not a "red red" reference, Donkey. It's a "red red wine" reference.

Your refrain is the same a Mr. Diamond's.

Secondhand much?

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by: W-Dockery - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 20:22 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>>
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>>
>> > She's real
>> > and sometimes sparks
>> > with spoken words
>> > spoken loud.
>> > Just like the
>> > Statue of Liberty.
>> > Standing tall and proud
>> > Along the long way
>> > long way around.
>>
>> > Brown sugar baby
>> > backyard blues
>> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> > quiet infatuation.
>> > I was coming down home
>> > fell down, down, down
>> > into silver blazing dawn.
>>
>> > On the long way
>> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> > she said "I love you."
>> > somehow I did not understand.
>> > Overheard on the street
>> > out on the sidewalk
>> > taking the long way
>> > long way around.
>>
>> > I didn't know
>> > she was crying.
>> > I didn't think
>> > it'd be that way
>> > didn't think
>> > she would get so serious.
>> > The guitar played
>> > C, D...
>>
>> > She likes city lights
>> > she could name all the Saints.
>> > And the darkness
>> > she said it made her so lonely.
>>
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>> > On the long way
>> > long way around.
>>
>> > -Will Dockery
>>
>> > --
>> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>>
>> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:

> It's not a "red red" reference, Donkey. It's a "red red wine" reference.

> Your refrain is the same a Mr. Diamond's

It was a nod, an homage, to Neil Diamond, nothing more.

Show me anything else from Neil Diamond in my poem besides the "red red" reference.

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:03 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >>
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >>
> >> > She's real
> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> > with spoken words
> >> > spoken loud.
> >> > Just like the
> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> > Along the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >>
> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> > backyard blues
> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> > I was coming down home
> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >>
> >> > On the long way
> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> > taking the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >>
> >> > I didn't know
> >> > she was crying.
> >> > I didn't think
> >> > it'd be that way
> >> > didn't think
> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> > The guitar played
> >> > C, D...
> >>
> >> > She likes city lights
> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> > And the darkness
> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >>
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >> > On the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >>
> >> > -Will Dockery
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >>
> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:
>
> > It's not a "red red" reference, Donkey. It's a "red red wine" reference..
>
> > Your refrain is the same a Mr. Diamond's
> It was a nod, an homage, to Neil Diamond, nothing more.
>
> Show me anything else from Neil Diamond in my poem besides the "red red" reference.

Generally, the hook in a song is its refrain. The refrain is what sticks in the listener's head and gets them to come back for a second, third, fourth listen.

When your song's refrain has been hooked from Mr. Diamond, it brings your songwriting abilities into question.

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by: W.Dockery - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 00:25 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >>
>> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> > rare steaks
>> >> > rain sticks
>> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> > And red red wine.
>> >>
>> >> > She's real
>> >> > and sometimes sparks
>> >> > with spoken words
>> >> > spoken loud.
>> >> > Just like the
>> >> > Statue of Liberty.
>> >> > Standing tall and proud
>> >> > Along the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >>
>> >> > Brown sugar baby
>> >> > backyard blues
>> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> >> > quiet infatuation.
>> >> > I was coming down home
>> >> > fell down, down, down
>> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >>
>> >> > On the long way
>> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> >> > she said "I love you."
>> >> > somehow I did not understand.
>> >> > Overheard on the street
>> >> > out on the sidewalk
>> >> > taking the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >>
>> >> > I didn't know
>> >> > she was crying.
>> >> > I didn't think
>> >> > it'd be that way
>> >> > didn't think
>> >> > she would get so serious.
>> >> > The guitar played
>> >> > C, D...
>> >>
>> >> > She likes city lights
>> >> > she could name all the Saints.
>> >> > And the darkness
>> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >>
>> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> >> > rare steaks
>> >> > rain sticks
>> >> > Sinatra.
>> >> > And red red wine.
>> >> > On the long way
>> >> > long way around.
>> >>
>> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> >> Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:
>>
>> > It's not a "red red" reference, Donkey. It's a "red red wine" reference..
>>
>> > Your refrain is the same a Mr. Diamond's
>> It was a nod, an homage, to Neil Diamond, nothing more.
>>
>> Show me anything else from Neil Diamond in my poem besides the "red red" reference.

> Generally, the hook in a song is its refrain. The refrain is what sticks in the listener's head and gets them to come back for a second, third, fourth listen.

> When your song's refrain has been hooked from Mr. Diamond, it brings your songwriting abilities into question.

Not really, the lady in the poem just loves her red wine.

🙂

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 01:00 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:30:11 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >>
> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >>
> >> >> > She's real
> >> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> >> > with spoken words
> >> >> > spoken loud.
> >> >> > Just like the
> >> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> >> > Along the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> >> > backyard blues
> >> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> >> > I was coming down home
> >> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >>
> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> >> > taking the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I didn't know
> >> >> > she was crying.
> >> >> > I didn't think
> >> >> > it'd be that way
> >> >> > didn't think
> >> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> >> > The guitar played
> >> >> > C, D...
> >> >>
> >> >> > She likes city lights
> >> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> >> > And the darkness
> >> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >>
> >> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> >> > rare steaks
> >> >> > rain sticks
> >> >> > Sinatra.
> >> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >> > On the long way
> >> >> > long way around.
> >> >>
> >> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >>
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> >> Compare with the Neil Diamond lyric, no similarities except for the "red red" reference:
> >>
> >> > It's not a "red red" reference, Donkey. It's a "red red wine" reference..
> >>
> >> > Your refrain is the same a Mr. Diamond's
> >> It was a nod, an homage, to Neil Diamond, nothing more.
> >>
> >> Show me anything else from Neil Diamond in my poem besides the "red red" reference.
>
> > Generally, the hook in a song is its refrain. The refrain is what sticks in the listener's head and gets them to come back for a second, third, fourth listen.
>
> > When your song's refrain has been hooked from Mr. Diamond, it brings your songwriting abilities into question.
> Not really, the lady in the poem just loves her red wine.

Then why say "red" twice?

When you sing "And red red wine" as your refrain, you're basically copying Mr. Diamond's refrain. I'm not saying it's plagiarism... just secondhanding to the nth degree.

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by: W-Dockery - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 01:13 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > She Loves Bossa Nova
>> >
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>> >
>> > She's real
>> > and sometimes sparks
>> > with spoken words
>> > spoken loud.
>> > Just like the
>> > Statue of Liberty.
>> > Standing tall and proud
>> > Along the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > Brown sugar baby
>> > backyard blues
>> > Maybe it was intimidation
>> > quiet infatuation.
>> > I was coming down home
>> > fell down, down, down
>> > into silver blazing dawn.
>> >
>> > On the long way
>> > overheard on the sidewalk
>> > she said "I love you."
>> > somehow I did not understand.
>> > Overheard on the street
>> > out on the sidewalk
>> > taking the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > I didn't know
>> > she was crying.
>> > I didn't think
>> > it'd be that way
>> > didn't think
>> > she would get so serious.
>> > The guitar played
>> > C, D...
>> >
>> > She likes city lights
>> > she could name all the Saints.
>> > And the darkness
>> > she said it made her so lonely.
>> >
>> > She loves Bossa Nova
>> > rare steaks
>> > rain sticks
>> > Sinatra.
>> > And red red wine.
>> > On the long way
>> > long way around.
>> >
>> > -Will Dockery
>> >
>> > --
>> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>> >
>> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
>> Poem about the events of late 2007.

> Please explain

This is a narrative and confessional style poem about a romance I had a few years ago.

Thanks again for reading and commenting.

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by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 01:20 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 9:15:09 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >> >
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >> >
> >> > She's real
> >> > and sometimes sparks
> >> > with spoken words
> >> > spoken loud.
> >> > Just like the
> >> > Statue of Liberty.
> >> > Standing tall and proud
> >> > Along the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > Brown sugar baby
> >> > backyard blues
> >> > Maybe it was intimidation
> >> > quiet infatuation.
> >> > I was coming down home
> >> > fell down, down, down
> >> > into silver blazing dawn.
> >> >
> >> > On the long way
> >> > overheard on the sidewalk
> >> > she said "I love you."
> >> > somehow I did not understand.
> >> > Overheard on the street
> >> > out on the sidewalk
> >> > taking the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > I didn't know
> >> > she was crying.
> >> > I didn't think
> >> > it'd be that way
> >> > didn't think
> >> > she would get so serious.
> >> > The guitar played
> >> > C, D...
> >> >
> >> > She likes city lights
> >> > she could name all the Saints.
> >> > And the darkness
> >> > she said it made her so lonely.
> >> >
> >> > She loves Bossa Nova
> >> > rare steaks
> >> > rain sticks
> >> > Sinatra.
> >> > And red red wine.
> >> > On the long way
> >> > long way around.
> >> >
> >> > -Will Dockery
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> >> Poem about the events of late 2007.
>
> > Please explain
> This is a narrative and confessional style poem about a romance I had a few years ago.

Could you set down the "narrative" in outline format?

Does having a narrative make a piece of writing a poem?

"Gone With the Wind" has a narrative. Does that make GWTW a poem?

Where are you confessing something in your poem?

What are you confessing in your poem?

Does writing something in a confessional manner make it a poem?

"Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" is written in a confessional manner.. Is "Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" a poem?

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by: W.Dockery - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 01:39 UTC

> She Loves Bossa Nova
>>
>> She loves Bossa Nova
>> rare steaks
>> rain sticks
>> Sinatra.
>> And red red wine.
>>
>> She's real
>> and sometimes sparks
>> with spoken words
>> spoken loud.
>> Just like the
>> Statue of Liberty.
>> Standing tall and proud
>> Along the long way
>> long way around.
>>
>> Brown sugar baby
>> backyard blues
>> Maybe it was intimidation
>> quiet infatuation.
>> I was coming down home
>> fell down, down, down
>> into silver blazing dawn.
>>
>> On the long way
>> overheard on the sidewalk
>> she said "I love you."
>> somehow I did not understand.
>> Overheard on the street
>> out on the sidewalk
>> taking the long way
>> long way around.
>>
>> I didn't know
>> she was crying.
>> I didn't think
>> it'd be that way
>> didn't think
>> she would get so serious.
>> The guitar played
>> C, D...
>>
>> She likes city lights
>> she could name all the Saints.
>> And the darkness
>> she said it made her so lonely.
>>
>> She loves Bossa Nova
>> rare steaks
>> rain sticks
>> Sinatra.
>> And red red wine.
>> On the long way
>> long way around.
>>
>> -Will Dockery
>>
>> --
>> "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>>
>> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

Again, this is a poem about the events of late 2007, written in a narrative and confessional style.

HTH and HAND.

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by: W-Dockery - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 04:48 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> Please explain what makes this a poem

I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a poem, Pendragon.

🙂

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by: Will Dockery - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:20 UTC

On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 2:27:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> She Loves Bossa Nova
>
> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.
>
> She's real
> and sometimes sparks
> with spoken words
> spoken loud.
> Just like the
> Statue of Liberty.
> Standing tall and proud
> Along the long way
> long way around.
>
> Brown sugar baby
> backyard blues
> Maybe it was intimidation
> quiet infatuation.
> I was coming down home
> fell down, down, down
> into silver blazing dawn.
>
> On the long way
> overheard on the sidewalk
> she said "I love you."
> somehow I did not understand.
> Overheard on the street
> out on the sidewalk
> taking the long way
> long way around.
>
> I didn't know
> she was crying.
> I didn't think
> it'd be that way
> didn't think
> she would get so serious.
> The guitar played
> C, D...
>
> She likes city lights
> she could name all the Saints.
> And the darkness
> she said it made her so lonely.
>
> She loves Bossa Nova
> rare steaks
> rain sticks
> Sinatra.
> And red red wine.
> On the long way
> long way around.
>
> -Will Dockery
>
> --
> "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
>
> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery

I'm surprised at the ignorance the delusional Michael Pendragon has shown over my reference/homage with the "red red" line, which in no way infringes on the song by Neil Diamond.

Other than the repetition of "red red"there's no similarity in the story my lyrics tell or in the music.

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:54 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 9:40:10 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > She Loves Bossa Nova
> >>
> >> She loves Bossa Nova
> >> rare steaks
> >> rain sticks
> >> Sinatra.
> >> And red red wine.
> >>
> >> She's real
> >> and sometimes sparks
> >> with spoken words
> >> spoken loud.
> >> Just like the
> >> Statue of Liberty.
> >> Standing tall and proud
> >> Along the long way
> >> long way around.
> >>
> >> Brown sugar baby
> >> backyard blues
> >> Maybe it was intimidation
> >> quiet infatuation.
> >> I was coming down home
> >> fell down, down, down
> >> into silver blazing dawn.
> >>
> >> On the long way
> >> overheard on the sidewalk
> >> she said "I love you."
> >> somehow I did not understand.
> >> Overheard on the street
> >> out on the sidewalk
> >> taking the long way
> >> long way around.
> >>
> >> I didn't know
> >> she was crying.
> >> I didn't think
> >> it'd be that way
> >> didn't think
> >> she would get so serious.
> >> The guitar played
> >> C, D...
> >>
> >> She likes city lights
> >> she could name all the Saints.
> >> And the darkness
> >> she said it made her so lonely.
> >>
> >> She loves Bossa Nova
> >> rare steaks
> >> rain sticks
> >> Sinatra.
> >> And red red wine.
> >> On the long way
> >> long way around.
> >>
> >> -Will Dockery
> >>
> >> --
> >> "She Loves Bossa Nova" written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard:
> >>
> >> https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/25277871-she-loves-bossa-nova--will-dockery
> Again, this is a poem about the events of late 2007, written in a narrative and confessional style.

Answer the questions, Donkey:

Could you set down the "narrative" in outline format?

Does having a narrative make a piece of writing a poem?

"Gone With the Wind" has a narrative. Does that make GWTW a poem?

Where are you confessing something in your poem?

What are you confessing in your poem?

Does writing something in a confessional manner make it a poem?

"Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" is written in a confessional manner.. Is "Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" a poem?

"My life is a soap opera, but who has the rights?" -- MadameX

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