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 by: NancyGene - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 22:47 UTC

The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
a poem by Bard and NancyGene

A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
And then forgotten utterly.

He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
Unnoticed in his little day,
And when he dies there shall be none to crown
His grave with flowers or wither them away.

He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
No love of women, no delight of song;
His life shall have been one long vain strain
Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.

*by request of Ash Wurthing

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From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 22:57 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> a poem by Bard and NancyGene
>
> A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> And then forgotten utterly.
>
> He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> Unnoticed in his little day,
> And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> His grave with flowers or wither them away.
>
> He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> No love of women, no delight of song;
> His life shall have been one long vain strain
> Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
>
>
> *by request of Ash Wurthing

BRAVO!
You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...

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 by: NancyGene - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:39 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:57:39 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> >
> > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > And then forgotten utterly.
> >
> > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> >
> > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> >
> >
> > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> BRAVO!
> You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...

'Tis a noble poem! Such an unlamented, untalented poet will not rise, but sink in the muck of his own do-do. "The Idylls of the Idle."

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 by: Rachel - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:54 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:57:39 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > >
> > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > >
> > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > >
> > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> > BRAVO!
> > You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...
> 'Tis a noble poem! Such an unlamented, untalented poet will not rise, but sink in the muck of his own do-do. "The Idylls of the Idle."

I thought that line read

"His life shall have been one long vain train"

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 by: ME - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:03 UTC

On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 19:54:02 UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:57:39 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > > >
> > > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > > >
> > > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > > >
> > > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> > > BRAVO!
> > > You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...
> > 'Tis a noble poem! Such an unlamented, untalented poet will not rise, but sink in the muck of his own do-do. "The Idylls of the Idle."
> I thought that line read
>
> "His life shall have been one long vain train"

You read it wrong.

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 by: ME - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 01:15 UTC

On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 19:39:32 UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:57:39 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > >
> > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > >
> > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > >
> > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> > BRAVO!
> > You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...
> 'Tis a noble poem! Such an unlamented, untalented poet will not rise, but sink in the muck of his own do-do. "The Idylls of the Idle."

Bravo!!!

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From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 01:20 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> a poem by Bard and NancyGene
>
> A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> And then forgotten utterly.
>
> He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> Unnoticed in his little day,
> And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> His grave with flowers or wither them away.

But, but, but he's renowned in Shadowville!
> He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> No love of women, no delight of song;
> His life shall have been one long vain strain
> Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
>
>
> *by request of Ash Wurthing

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Subject: Re: "The Unlamented, Untalented Poet," a poem by Bard and NancyGene
From: rivermut...@gmail.com (ME)
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 by: ME - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 01:28 UTC

On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> >
> > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > And then forgotten utterly.
> >
> > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> But, but, but he's renowned in Shadowville!
> > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> >
> >
> > *by request of Ash Wurthing

But don’t you mean shallowville?

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Subject: Re: "The Unlamented, Untalented Poet," a poem by Bard and NancyGene
From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 02:56 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > >
> > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > >
> > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > But, but, but he's renowned in Shadowville!
> > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> But don’t you mean shallowville?

Nice! Why didn't I think of that :(

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Subject: Re: "The Unlamented, Untalented Poet," a poem by Bard and NancyGene
From: roach4...@gmail.com (Rachel)
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 by: Rachel - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 04:14 UTC

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 5:03:03 PM UTC-7, ME wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 19:54:02 UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:57:39 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > > > >
> > > > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > > > >
> > > > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > > > >
> > > > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> > > > BRAVO!
> > > > You satisfied my love of prophetic tone...
> > > 'Tis a noble poem! Such an unlamented, untalented poet will not rise, but sink in the muck of his own do-do. "The Idylls of the Idle."
> > I thought that line read
> >
> > "His life shall have been one long vain train"
> You read it wrong.

i wacky-parsed it

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 by: NancyGene - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:35 UTC

On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:56:05 AM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:47:30 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > The Unlamented, Untalented Poet*
> > > > a poem by Bard and NancyGene
> > > >
> > > > A fat man shall rise in time, unlamented
> > > > And unmourned, whose poems, few and poor,
> > > > Shall have been written, unread, not remembered,
> > > > And then forgotten utterly.
> > > >
> > > > He shall have lived obscure, without renown,
> > > > Unnoticed in his little day,
> > > > And when he dies there shall be none to crown
> > > > His grave with flowers or wither them away.
> > > But, but, but he's renowned in Shadowville!
> > > > He shall have known no fame, no worldly gain,
> > > > No love of women, no delight of song;
> > > > His life shall have been one long vain strain
> > > > Of struggle and of failure and of wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *by request of Ash Wurthing
> > But don’t you mean shallowville?
> Nice! Why didn't I think of that :(

We went back and forth with Bard about including another line under "He shall have no fame, no worldly gain." Bard wanted to include "but he shall have prodigious weight gain," but we thought that was self-evident.

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