In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
unlicensed grow operation was busted.

Why were police suspicious?

1) Cardboard-covered windows

Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
something illegal.

2) High electricity consumption

Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
all of which are presumed to be crimes.

A number of years ago, a suburb's municipal ordinance compelled
homeowners to have smart meters via building and zoning codes. One
homeowner, who had the nerve to expect privacy, fought city hall but the
judgment went against her.

3) Smell of marijuana

Ok. That one I'll buy.

It says that criminals think they'll arouse less suspicion if they grow
in states in which licensed growing is legal, to distribute in states in
which growing is still illegal.

https://apnews.com/article/illicit-marijuana-operation-charges-maine-ad17b4bf2cab5cf4379fac394045335b

In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>
> Why were police suspicious?
>
> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>
> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
> something illegal.
>
> 2) High electricity consumption
>
> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>
> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
Power's usage meters.

> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
> all of which are presumed to be crimes.

And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
system.

Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
independently and free of "the system".

Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
be evicted.

http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
_code_ordinances.html#

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>
>> Why were police suspicious?
>>
>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>
>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>> something illegal.
>>
>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>
>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>
>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>
>Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>Power's usage meters.
>
>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>
>And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>system.
>
>Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>independently and free of "the system".
>
>Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>be evicted.
>
>http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
>_code_ordinances.html#

That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
to near $0.

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>
> Why were police suspicious?
>
> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>
> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
> something illegal.
>
> 2) High electricity consumption
>
> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>
> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
> electrical consumption but those were monthly records.

Not here. Here SRP only checked the meters once or twice a year and they
had an algorithm that made up what they thought you should pay.

These meters
> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>
> A number of years ago, a suburb's municipal ordinance compelled
> homeowners to have smart meters via building and zoning codes. One
> homeowner, who had the nerve to expect privacy, fought city hall but the
> judgment went against her.
>
> 3) Smell of marijuana
>
> Ok. That one I'll buy.
>
> It says that criminals think they'll arouse less suspicion if they grow
> in states in which licensed growing is legal, to distribute in states in
> which growing is still illegal.
>
> https://apnews.com/article/illicit-marijuana-operation-charges-maine-ad17b4bf2cab5cf4379fac394045335b
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>>
>>> Why were police suspicious?
>>>
>>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>>
>>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>>> something illegal.
>>>
>>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>>
>>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>>
>>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>>
>> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>> Power's usage meters.
>>
>>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>>
>> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>> system.
>>
>> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>> independently and free of "the system".
>>
>> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>> be evicted.
>>
>> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
>> _code_ordinances.html#
>
> That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
> utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
> basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
> water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
> to near $0.
>

There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity
turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the
account.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:27:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>>>
>>>> Why were police suspicious?
>>>>
>>>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>>>> something illegal.
>>>>
>>>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>>>
>>>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>>>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>>>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>>>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>>>
>>> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>>> Power's usage meters.
>>>
>>>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>>>
>>> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>>> independently and free of "the system".
>>>
>>> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>>> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>>> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>>> be evicted.
>>>
>>> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
>>> _code_ordinances.html#
>>
>> That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
>> utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
>> basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
>> water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
>> to near $0.
>>
>
>There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity
>turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the
>account.

Ah, but if you don't pay it then they cut off the electricity and
water you weren't intending to use any way. Win Win

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>>unlicensed grow operation was busted.

>>Why were police suspicious?

>>1) Cardboard-covered windows

>>Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>>something illegal.

>>2) High electricity consumption

>>Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>>battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

>>Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>>electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>>allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>>electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

>Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>Power's usage meters.

I'm sure the Russians have never met a system they cannot hack.

>>and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>>all of which are presumed to be crimes.

>And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>system.

>Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>independently and free of "the system".

>Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>be evicted.

>http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living_code_ordinances.html

Oh my ghod

Why is the magistrate required to enforce an international code? Why
would this be in the code to begin with?

On 4/21/2024 3:56 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>>
>>> Why were police suspicious?
>>>
>>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>>
>>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>>> something illegal.
>>>
>>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>>
>>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>>
>>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>>
>> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>> Power's usage meters.
>>
>>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>>
>> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>> system.
>>
>> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>> independently and free of "the system".
>>
>> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>>from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>> be evicted.
>>
>> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
>> _code_ordinances.html#
>
> That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
> utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
> basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
> water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
> to near $0.
>
True, but what about access to the city's sewer system? Unless she's got
a septic tank.

On 4/21/24 5:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>
>> Why were police suspicious?
>>
>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>
>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>> something illegal.
>>
>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>
>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>
>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>
> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
> Power's usage meters.
>
>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>
> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
> system.
>
> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
> independently and free of "the system".
>
> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
> be evicted.
>
> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
> _code_ordinances.html#

Hm, it's probably just a coincidence that this is a state with one of
the shittiest right wing assholes in the country for a governor, right?

In article <nccb2jpjlm0vllriq09n0jo12p7f51mh3d@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:27:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
> >>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why were police suspicious?
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
> >>>> something illegal.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) High electricity consumption
> >>>>
> >>>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
> >>>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
> >>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
> >>>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
> >>>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
> >>>
> >>> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
> >>> Power's usage meters.
> >>>
> >>>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
> >>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
> >>>
> >>> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
> >>> independently and free of "the system".
> >>>
> >>> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
> >>> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
> >>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
> >>> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
> >>> be evicted.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
> >>> _code_ordinances.html#
> >>
> >> That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
> >> utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
> >> basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
> >> water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
> >> to near $0.
> >>
> >There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity
> >turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the
> >account.
>
> Ah, but if you don't pay it then they cut off the electricity and
> water you weren't intending to use any way. Win Win

Yeah, I imagine there are plenty of people in Florida who don't pay
their electric bill and get cut off, but they're not all evicted from
their own homes for it.

Seems like this woman has been targeted specifically for her audacity to
show she doesn't need the government.

On 4/22/24 2:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <nccb2jpjlm0vllriq09n0jo12p7f51mh3d@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:27:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
>>>>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why were police suspicious?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Cardboard-covered windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
>>>>>> something illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) High electricity consumption
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
>>>>>> battery storge and staying entirely off grid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
>>>>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
>>>>>> allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
>>>>>> electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
>>>>> Power's usage meters.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
>>>>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
>>>>> independently and free of "the system".
>>>>>
>>>>> Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
>>>>> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
>>>>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
>>>>> need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
>>>>> be evicted.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
>>>>> _code_ordinances.html#
>>>>
>>>> That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
>>>> utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
>>>> basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
>>>> water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
>>>> to near $0.
>>>>
>>> There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity
>>> turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the
>>> account.
>>
>> Ah, but if you don't pay it then they cut off the electricity and
>> water you weren't intending to use any way. Win Win
>
> Yeah, I imagine there are plenty of people in Florida who don't pay
> their electric bill and get cut off, but they're not all evicted from
> their own homes for it.
>
> Seems like this woman has been targeted specifically for her audacity to
> show she doesn't need the government.
>

Gosh! Government targeting some people for their audacity?
Good thing that Republicans would NEVER do this, amirite?

Unless you disagree with the petty elected officials like Disney did.
Disney got hammered because they disagreed with what Field Marshall
DeSantis wanted.

But that's OK, isn't it? So long as you like the target, you give them
a pass.

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