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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:02 UTC

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08

Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.

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 by: Jordy C - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:12 UTC

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
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> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
Albums like such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Vunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were mi guy more
Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

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 by: Jordy C - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:15 UTC

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> >
> > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 22 Jul 2023 00:27 UTC

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

As long as Grace Slick was still involved I stayed interested.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 22 Jul 2023 09:03 UTC

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:16:08 AM UTC-4, fake Conley Brothers forged::
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
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> > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> What a

What a impostor troll you are, fake Conley.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 22 Jul 2023 09:28 UTC

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.

Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows Against the Empire"?

https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc

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Jordy C wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08

Good morning, again, good choice.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 16:30 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-4, fake Conley Brothers forged:
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > > > >
> > > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
> >
> > Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows Against the Empire"?
> >
> > https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
> There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane

Of course there was, impostor troll.

🙂

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Conley Brothers <conleybrothersband@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a2bd166e-0ef0-4de1-80bf-7e46a6d8e6f5n@googlegroups.com:

> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
>> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery w
> rote:
>> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wro
> te:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
>> > > >
>> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases
>> > > > of J
> efferson Airplane.
>> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” an
> d COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of
> Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic
> and political while the spin-offs were much more
>> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built
> this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
>> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of
>> Jeffers
> on Airplane.
>> Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
>>
>> Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows
>> Against
> the Empire"?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
>
> There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane. That band ceased
> to be once Jefferson Starship was formed by some members of Jefferson
> Airplane. It was cheesy for them to even call it Jefferson Starship.

Dreckweasel is incoherent at best, so given that and the many other
mental limitations of that shitkicker, the talentless loser might have
blundered into a valid point.

So there were "phases" of JA which mostly consisted of the talented
people leaving. Mostly Jorma, Jack Casady, Marty Balin and Spencer
Dryden. While there were a few "reunion tours", they were pretty much
dead in the water after 1970.

Weirdly enough, they put out a record of all new material in 1989. Their
last great album was in 1969 with a few crappy Airplane records after
that. Starship is a matter of taste.

Hot Tuna (Jorma and Jack Cassady) is a spinoff from JA and they continue
to perform to this very day in both acoustic and electric versions of
the band. They are amazing. From 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFpIHoHZNY <- acoustic

--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

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On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

You're correct, of course, Jordy.

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On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:38:42 PM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Conley Brothers <conleybro...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:a2bd166e-0ef0-4de1...@googlegroups.com:
> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery w
> > rote:
> >> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wro
> > te:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases
> >> > > > of J
> > efferson Airplane.
> >> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” an
> > d COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of
> > Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic
> > and political while the spin-offs were much more
> >> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built
> > this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of
> >> Jeffers
> > on Airplane.
> >> Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
> >>
> >> Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows
> >> Against
> > the Empire"?
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
> >
> > There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane. That band ceased
> > to be once Jefferson Starship was formed by some members of Jefferson
> > Airplane. It was cheesy for them to even call it Jefferson Starship.
> Dreckweasel is incoherent at best, so given that and the many other
> mental limitations of that shitkicker, the talentless loser might have
> blundered into a valid point.
>
> So there were "phases" of JA which mostly consisted of the talented
> people leaving. Mostly Jorma, Jack Casady, Marty Balin and Spencer
> Dryden. While there were a few "reunion tours", they were pretty much
> dead in the water after 1970.
>
> Weirdly enough, they put out a record of all new material in 1989. Their
> last great album was in 1969 with a few crappy Airplane records after
> that. Starship is a matter of taste.
>
> Hot Tuna (Jorma and Jack Cassady) is a spinoff from JA and they continue
> to perform to this very day in both acoustic and electric versions of
> the band. They are amazing. From 2019:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFpIHoHZNY <- acoustic
>
> --
> "I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
> poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

People come and go but I wouldn't say they are phases and certainly not man as Dockery claims. I true Dockery failure fashion he had to double down on his stupid claim without anything backing it. As the Conley Brother said, JA ceased to exist and new bands formed like Jefferson Starship and Hot Tuna which kept the soul of Jefferson Airplane if not the name. The irony is Jorma has been credited with coming up with the Jefferson Airplane name. I've seen HT a number of times and Jorma solo also, even shared a couple bowls of chili with him at a place called The Crystal Palace, I believe it was. Elegant name but it was a large country bar in a mall, Garden State Plaza. I heard he was playing there but there was no advertising at all for it and I even called the bar day of they knew nothing of it. I trusted my source though and was there around 5 in the evening. I knew the bartender somewhat and he confirmed the show just as Jorma walked in with some gear and propped the door open. I asked if he needed help but he said he only had one more trip, motioning to his car parked by the curb. He said rather than asked "If you don't mind, you could watch my stuff while I park the car".. That was kind of weird to me as he turned it around and parked maybe 30 feet away then carried the rest in and set up, sound checked while a friend and I drank beer in the nearly empty venue as showtime was still a few hours away.

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On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.

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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:06:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > > >
> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
thank you, Will

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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:06:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
>
> > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
>
> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
>
> > Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
> thank you, Will

Hello there, my friend.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:37 UTC

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:46:40 AM UTC-4, Usenet Editor wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:38:42 PM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> > Conley Brothers <conleybro...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:a2bd166e-0ef0-4de1...@googlegroups.com:
> > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > >> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery w
> > > rote:
> > >> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wro
> > > te:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases
> > >> > > > of J
> > > efferson Airplane.
> > >> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” an
> > > d COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of
> > > Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic
> > > and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > >> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built
> > > this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of
> > >> Jeffers
> > > on Airplane.
> > >> Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
> > >>
> > >> Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows
> > >> Against
> > >>
> > >> https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
> > >
> > > There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane. That band ceased
> > > to be once Jefferson Starship was formed by some members of Jefferson
> > > Airplane. It was cheesy for them to even call it Jefferson Starship.
>
>> So there were "phases" of JA which mostly consisted of the talented
> > people leaving. Mostly Jorma, Jack Casady, Marty Balin and Spencer
> > Dryden. While there were a few "reunion tours", they were pretty much
> > dead in the water after 1970.
> >
> > Weirdly enough, they put out a record of all new material in 1989. Their
> > last great album was in 1969 with a few crappy Airplane records after
> > that. Starship is a matter of taste.
> >
> > Hot Tuna (Jorma and Jack Cassady) is a spinoff from JA and they continue
> > to perform to this very day in both acoustic and electric versions of
> > the band. They are amazing. From 2019:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFpIHoHZNY <- acoustic
> >
>
> People come and go but I wouldn't say they are phases and certainly not man as Dockery claims. I true Dockery failure fashion he had to double down on his stupid claim without anything backing it. As the Conley Brother said, JA ceased to exist and new bands formed like Jefferson Starship and Hot Tuna which kept the soul of Jefferson Airplane if not the name. The irony is Jorma has been credited with coming up with the Jefferson Airplane name. I've seen HT a number of times and Jorma solo also, even shared a couple bowls of chili with him at a place called The Crystal Palace, I believe it was.. Elegant name but it was a large country bar in a mall, Garden State Plaza.. I heard he was playing there but there was no advertising at all for it and I even called the bar day of they knew nothing of it. I trusted my source though and was there around 5 in the evening. I knew the bartender somewhat and he confirmed the show just as Jorma walked in with some gear and propped the door open. I asked if he needed help but he said he only had one more trip, motioning to his car parked by the curb. He said rather than asked "If you don't mind, you could watch my stuff while I park the car". That was kind of weird to me as he turned it around and parked maybe 30 feet away then carried the rest in and set up, sound checked while a friend and I drank beer in the nearly empty venue as showtime was still a few hours away.

Interesting story, I'll grant you.

🙂

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Usenet Editor <useneteditor@gmail.com> wrote in
news:c4bf5548-fa79-426a-be02-e0938a11d464n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:38:42 PM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet
> wrote:
>> Conley Brothers <conleybro...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:a2bd166e-0ef0-4de1...@googlegroups.com:
>> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wr
> ote:
>> >> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
>> >> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote
>:
>> >
>> >> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Docker
> y w
>> > rote:
>> >> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C
> wro
>> > te:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many
>> >> > > > phases
>
>> >> > > > of J
>> > efferson Airplane.
>> >> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s”
> an
>> > d COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the s
> ongs of
>> > Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychede
> lic
>> > and political while the spin-offs were much more
>> >> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We bu
> ilt
>> > this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”�
> �
>> >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of
>> >> Jeffers
>> > on Airplane.
>> >> Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
>> >>
>> >> Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows
>> >> Against
>> > the Empire"?
>> >>
>> >> https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
>> >
>> > There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane. That band ceased
>> > to be once Jefferson Starship was formed by some members of
>> > Jefferson
>
>> > Airplane. It was cheesy for them to even call it Jefferson
>> > Starship.
>> Dreckweasel is incoherent at best, so given that and the many other
>> mental limitations of that shitkicker, the talentless loser might
>> have blundered into a valid point.
>>
>> So there were "phases" of JA which mostly consisted of the talented
>> people leaving. Mostly Jorma, Jack Casady, Marty Balin and Spencer
>> Dryden. While there were a few "reunion tours", they were pretty much
>> dead in the water after 1970.
>>
>> Weirdly enough, they put out a record of all new material in 1989.
>> Their
>
>> last great album was in 1969 with a few crappy Airplane records after
>> that. Starship is a matter of taste.
>>
>> Hot Tuna (Jorma and Jack Cassady) is a spinoff from JA and they
>> continue
>
>> to perform to this very day in both acoustic and electric versions of
>> the band. They are amazing. From 2019:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFpIHoHZNY <- acoustic

> People come and go but I wouldn't say they are phases and certainly
> not man as Dockery claims.

It's why I put "phases" in quotes. It was a laughable claim.

> In true Dockery failure fashion he had to
> double down on his stupid claim without anything backing it. As the
> Conley Brother said, JA ceased to exist and new bands formed like
> Jefferson Starship and Hot Tuna which kept the soul of Jefferson
> Airplane if not the name. The irony is Jorma has been credited with
> coming up with the Jefferson Airplane name. I've seen HT a number of
> times and Jorma solo also, even shared a couple bowls of chili with
> him at a place called The Crystal Palace, I believe it was. Elegant
> name but it was a large country bar in a mall, Garden State Plaza. I
> heard he was playing there but there was no advertising at all for it
> and I even called the bar day of they knew nothing of it. I trusted
> my source though and was there around 5 in the evening. I knew the
> bartender somewhat and he confirmed the show just as Jorma walked in
> with some gear and propped the door open. I asked if he needed help
> but he said he only had one more trip, motioning to his car parked by
> the curb. He said rather than asked "If you don't mind, you could
> watch my stuff while I park the car". That was kind of weird to me as
> he turned it around and parked maybe 30 feet away then carried the
> rest in and set up, sound checked while a friend and I drank beer in
> the nearly empty venue as showtime was still a few hours away.

Their last electric tour ever is coming up. I'm not planning to miss
that.

I mostly stick to small venues these days, between the parking hassles
and the "convenience" charges, I'm pretty much checked out of the larger
shows.

Oh, someone copied the set list.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/jorma-kaukonen/1981/crystal-palace-saloon-
and-dance-hall-paramus-nj-43b7dbbf.html

--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 22:58 UTC

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:53:08 PM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Usenet Editor <usenet...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:c4bf5548-fa79-426a...@googlegroups.com:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:38:42 PM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet
> > wrote:
> >> Fake Conley Brothers <conleybro...@gmail.com> forged in
> >> news:a2bd166e-0ef0-4de1...@googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wr
> > ote:
> >> >> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >> >> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote
> >:
> >> >
> >> >> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Docker
> > y w
> >> > rote:
> >> >> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C
> > wro
> >> > te:
>
> >> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many
> >> >> > > > phases
> >
> >> >> > > > of J
> >> > efferson Airplane.
> >> >> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s”
> > an
> >> > d COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the s
> > ongs of
> >> > Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychede
> > lic
> >> > and political while the spin-offs were much more
> >> >> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We bu
> > ilt
> >> > this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”�€
> > ¦
> >> >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of
> >> >> Jeffers
> >> > on Airplane.
> >> >> Good morning my friend, to name a few phases of the J.A. band.
> >> >>
> >> >> Remember that first album from "Jefferson Starship" called "Blows
> >> >> Against
> >> > the Empire"?
> >> >>
> >> >> https://youtu.be/I_xX4YDwDzc
> >> >
> >> > There weren't "many phases" of Jefferson Airplane. That band ceased
> >> > to be once Jefferson Starship was formed by some members of
> >> > Jefferson
> >
> >> > Airplane. It was cheesy for them to even call it Jefferson
> >> > Starship.
> >> Dreckweasel is incoherent at best, so given that and the many other
> >> mental limitations of that shitkicker, the talentless loser might
> >> have blundered into a valid point.
> >>
> >> So there were "phases" of JA which mostly consisted of the talented
> >> people leaving. Mostly Jorma, Jack Casady, Marty Balin and Spencer
> >> Dryden. While there were a few "reunion tours", they were pretty much
> >> dead in the water after 1970.
> >>
> >> Weirdly enough, they put out a record of all new material in 1989.
> >> Their
> >
> >> last great album was in 1969 with a few crappy Airplane records after
> >> that. Starship is a matter of taste.
> >>
> >> Hot Tuna (Jorma and Jack Cassady) is a spinoff from JA and they
> >> continue
> >
> >> to perform to this very day in both acoustic and electric versions of
> >> the band. They are amazing. From 2019:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFpIHoHZNY <- acoustic
> > People come and go but I wouldn't say they are phases and certainly
> > not man as Dockery claims.
> It's why I put "phases" in quotes. It was a laughNotable claim.

Not really, viewed in continuity.
> > In true Dockery failure fashion he had to
> > double down on his stupid claim without anything backing it. As the
> > Conley Brother said, JA ceased to exist and new bands formed like
> > Jefferson Starship and Hot Tuna which kept the soul of Jefferson
> > Airplane if not the name. The irony is Jorma has been credited with
> > coming up with the Jefferson Airplane name. I've seen HT a number of
> > times and Jorma solo also, even shared a couple bowls of chili with
> > him at a place called The Crystal Palace, I believe it was. Elegant
> > name but it was a large country bar in a mall, Garden State Plaza. I
> > heard he was playing there but there was no advertising at all for it
> > and I even called the bar day of they knew nothing of it. I trusted
> > my source though and was there around 5 in the evening. I knew the
> > bartender somewhat and he confirmed the show just as Jorma walked in
> > with some gear and propped the door open. I asked if he needed help
> > but he said he only had one more trip, motioning to his car parked by
> > the curb. He said rather than asked "If you don't mind, you could
> > watch my stuff while I park the car". That was kind of weird to me as
> > he turned it around and parked maybe 30 feet away then carried the
> > rest in and set up, sound checked while a friend and I drank beer in
> > the nearly empty venue as showtime was still a few hours away.
> Their last electric tour ever is coming up. I'm not planning to miss
> that.
>
> I mostly stick to small venues these days, between the parking hassles
> and the "convenience" charges, I'm pretty much checked out of the larger
> shows.
>
> Oh, someone copied the set list.
>
> https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/jorma-kaukonen/1981/crystal-palace-saloon-
> and-dance-hall-paramus-nj-43b7dbbf.html
> --
>

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 23:18 UTC

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:16:08 AM UTC-4, Fake Conley Brothers forged:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> >
> > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> What a

What an unoriginal fake troll you are, impostor troll.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Jordy C - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 02:02 UTC

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:06:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> >
> > > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> >
> > > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> >
> > > Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
> > thank you, Will
> Hello there, my friend.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 22:11 UTC

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:02:20 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:06:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > >
> > > > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> > >
> > > > Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
> > > thank you, Will
> > Hello there, my friend.
> >
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:49 UTC

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > >
> > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…

Good evening Jordy, agreed and seconded.

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 by: Jordy C - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 03:31 UTC

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:02:20 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:06:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > > >
> > > > > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > > >
> > > > > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > > > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> > > >
> > > > > Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
> > > > thank you, Will
> > > Hello there, my friend.
> > >
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
Shalom Will

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Subject: Re: "Crown of Creation"-Jefferson Airplane
From: jdchase...@gmail.com (Jordy C)
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 by: Jordy C - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 03:31 UTC

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:49:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:12:42 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:55:53 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > > >
> > > > Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
> Good evening Jordy, agreed and seconded.
bonjour, Will

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Subject: Re: "Crown of Creation"-Jefferson Airplane
From: will.doc...@gmail.com (Will Dockery)
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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 13:29 UTC

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:31:12 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:02:20 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrb0G0tw08
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> Good afternoon my friend, great selection from the many phases of Jefferson Airplane.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Albums such as “After bathing at Baxter’s” and COC and “Volunteers” were far better, Imo, than the songs of Jefferson Starship or Starship… JA was adventurous and psychedelic and political while the spin-offs were much more
> > > > > > > Commercial and mainstream and bland… though “We built this city” is indeed a “guilty pleasure”…
>
> > > Good evening Jordy, and again, well put.
>
> > thank you, Will
>
> Shalom Will

Good morning, Jordy.

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