As per Deadline:

https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/

I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
for another 2-4 years, easy...

(Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )

On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:

>As per Deadline:
>
>https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>
>
>I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>for another 2-4 years, easy...
>
>(Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )

Sorry to hear this. I liked this one better than NCIS.

Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
> As per Deadline:
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>
>
> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>
> (Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )

Yes. Although we had a discussion about the odds of the various NCIS shows
and what would be canceled earlier today. I told her I couldn’t believe
they might actually go into the new season with five NCIS shows. But we
figured NCIS Perth was the weak link. We also pondered. What would happen
to LL Cool J if they canceled Hawaii, I was of the opinion they would not
cancel Hawaii simply because they always have a Hawaii show on CBS to use
their standing facilities.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> As per Deadline:
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>
>>
>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>
>> (Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )
>
> Sorry to hear this. I liked this one better than NCIS.
>

Damned with faint praise.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

> As per Deadline:
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>
>
> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>
I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
what happened?

https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/

It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
of the characters.

> (Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )
>

--
Rhino

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
>> As per Deadline:
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>
>>
>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>
> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
> what happened?
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>
> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
> of the characters.

Sheesh

So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
proof?

Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
just broken even.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> As per Deadline:
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>
>>>
>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>
>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>> what happened?
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>
>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>> of the characters.
>
> Sheesh
>
> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
> proof?
>
> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
> just broken even.

Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".

Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
want to watch!...)

Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
> On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>
>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>
>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>> what happened?
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>
>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>> of the characters.
>>
>> Sheesh
>>
>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>> proof?
>>
>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>> just broken even.
>
> Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
> Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
> here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>
>
> Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
> want to watch!...)

Anderson is the one shooting off her idiot mouth about this being “a huge
loss for representation”. I would think that alone would keep you from
wanting to watch her in anything else.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:58:16 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:

>On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>
>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>
>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>> what happened?
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>
>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>> of the characters.

I don't know where you are getting that from. Yes, Vanessa Lachey is
female but it's not like her character was a token addition as they
gave her a good back story that fit in with the position she held and
provided a good basis for a number of stories. Much like they did with
Jethro Gibbs on the original NCIS. There are shows where the effort
seems to be more on DEI than worrying about the stories but NCIS
Hawaii doesn't seem to be one.

>> Sheesh
>>
>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>> proof?

Again, another comment that doesn't seem justified.
>>
>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>> just broken even.
>
>Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
>Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
>here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>
>
>Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
>want to watch!...)

I would that Lachey also ends up in another show that I want to watch.
So I guess Yasmine Al-Bustami did get written out to save money since
they were adding LL Cool J. I was wondering if they were ever going to
bring her back as at first they mentioned her fairly often (she was
serving as the NCIS officer on board a carrier) but I noticed she was
not getting mentioned at all lately.

On 4/27/24 10:42 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>>> what happened?
>>>>
>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>>
>>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>>> of the characters.
>>>
>>> Sheesh
>>>
>>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>>> proof?
>>>
>>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>>> just broken even.
>>
>> Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
>> Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
>> here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>>
>>
>> Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
>> want to watch!...)
>
> Anderson is the one shooting off her idiot mouth about this being “a huge
> loss for representation”. I would think that alone would keep you from
> wanting to watch her in anything else.

She's Canadian - they are terminal woke and stupid now.

But I'd still watch a new show with her, esp. if she plays a slutty
vamp!! ;p

Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
> On 4/27/24 10:42 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>>>> what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>>>> of the characters.
>>>>
>>>> Sheesh
>>>>
>>>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>>>> proof?
>>>>
>>>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>>>> just broken even.
>>>
>>> Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
>>> Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
>>> here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
>>> want to watch!...)
>>
>> Anderson is the one shooting off her idiot mouth about this being “a huge
>> loss for representation”. I would think that alone would keep you from
>> wanting to watch her in anything else.
>
> She's Canadian - they are terminal woke and stupid now.
>
> But I'd still watch a new show with her, esp. if she plays a slutty
> vamp!! ;p

That will end up on Disney+.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:28:21 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 4/27/24 10:42 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>
>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>>>>> what happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>>>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>>>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>>>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>>>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>>>>> of the characters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheesh
>>>>>
>>>>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>>>>> proof?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>>>>> just broken even.
>>>>
>>>> Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
>>>> Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
>>>> here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
>>>> want to watch!...)
>>>
>>> Anderson is the one shooting off her idiot mouth about this being “a huge
>>> loss for representation”. I would think that alone would keep you from
>>> wanting to watch her in anything else.
>>
>> She's Canadian - they are terminal woke and stupid now.
>>
>> But I'd still watch a new show with her, esp. if she plays a slutty
>> vamp!! ;p
>
>That will end up on Disney+.

A Slutty Vamp that never ends up nude except on the Euro version that
for some reason is never found.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:28:21 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 4/27/24 10:42 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/27/24 7:44 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:15:46 -0700
>>>>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As per Deadline:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show out
>>>>>>>> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if this article, accessible from the one you posted, explains
>>>>>>> what happened?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-cast-reacts-cbs-cancellation-vanessa-lachey-ll-cool-j-1235897052/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems that at least some of the cast thought the point
>>>>>>> of the show was to "represent" rather than entertain. Maybe the
>>>>>>> audience got tired of having DEI shoved down their throats? Although
>>>>>>> the ratings were not awful, they might have been that much better if
>>>>>>> they focused more on story-telling and less on the gender and ethnicity
>>>>>>> of the characters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So they thought having a woman of color leading the team made them cancel
>>>>>> proof?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the NCIS Perth team is led by a woman of color so at worst they’ve
>>>>>> just broken even.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lemme see - "Hawai-Eye-Eye" has Tori Anderson in the cast. "Sydney" has
>>>>> Georgina Haig, but only as a recurring villain. I think the advantage
>>>>> here would go to "Hawai-Eye-Eye".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian (Hopefully this frees Anderson up to appear in stuff I'll actually
>>>>> want to watch!...)
>>>>
>>>> Anderson is the one shooting off her idiot mouth about this being “a huge
>>>> loss for representation”. I would think that alone would keep you from
>>>> wanting to watch her in anything else.
>>>
>>> She's Canadian - they are terminal woke and stupid now.
>>>
>>> But I'd still watch a new show with her, esp. if she plays a slutty
>>> vamp!! ;p
>>
>> That will end up on Disney+.
>
> A Slutty Vamp that never ends up nude except on the Euro version that
> for some reason is never found.
>

No, Disney+ has the Hulu tab which has full frontal, naked, Italian,
lesbian vampires.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

> Ian J. Ball wrote:
> As per Deadline:
>
>
https://deadline.com/2024/04/ncis-hawaii-canceled-cbs-no-season-4-1235896481/
>
>
> I certainly did not expect this! I figured they'd string the show
out
> for another 2-4 years, easy...
>
> (Did I beat Robin?!... ;p )

"Monk" >
Every single Prime Time detective cop crap ever made and will be made.

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