jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:13:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:52:43 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors...." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >
>> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >
>> > Shalom Will
>>
>> Hope you're having a great Halloween, Jordy.
>>
>
> thank you, hope that you did too

Good afternoon, my friend.

🙂

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:36:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:13:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:52:43 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors...." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >
> >> > Shalom Will
> >>
> >> Hope you're having a great Halloween, Jordy.
> >>
> >
> > thank you, hope that you did too
> Good afternoon, my friend.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:36:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:13:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:52:43 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors...." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >
>> >> > Shalom Will
>> >>
>> >> Hope you're having a great Halloween, Jordy.
>> >>
>> >
>> > thank you, hope that you did too
>> Good afternoon, my friend.
>>
>
> bonjour, Will

On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 3:15:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:36:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:13:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:52:43 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Shalom Will
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope you're having a great Halloween, Jordy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > thank you, hope that you did too
> >> Good afternoon, my friend.
> >>
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Hello there, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
hola Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>
>> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >>
>> > bonjour, Will
>> Hello there, Jordy.
>>
>
> hola Will

Good morning, my friend.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >
> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >>
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >>
> >
> > hola Will
> Good morning, my friend.
Shalom Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >
>> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>> >>
>> >
>> > hola Will
>> Good morning, my friend.
> Shalom Will

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > hola Will
> >> Good morning, my friend.
> > Shalom Will
> Hello there, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > hola Will
>> >> Good morning, my friend.
>> > Shalom Will
>> Hello there, Jordy.
>>
>
> bonjour, Will

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > hola Will
> >> >> Good morning, my friend.
> >> > Shalom Will
> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >>
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Good evening, my friend.
>
> 🙂
hola Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > hola Will
>> >> >> Good morning, my friend.
>> >> > Shalom Will
>> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>> >>
>> >
>> > bonjour, Will
>> Good evening, my friend.
>>
>
> hola Will

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:10:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > hola Will
> >> >> >> Good morning, my friend.
> >> >> > Shalom Will
> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> Good evening, my friend.
> >>
> >
> > hola Will
> Great to see you again, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:10:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 9:24:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:10:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>
> >
> > >> >> > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >
> >> > hola Will
> >> Great to see you again, Jordy.
> >>
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Good morning, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom, Will

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 9:24:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:10:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>>
>> >
>> > >> >> > Shalom Will
>> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
>> >
>> >> > hola Will
>> >> Great to see you again, Jordy.
>> >>
>> >
>> > bonjour, Will
>> Good morning, Jordy.
>>
>
> Shalom, Will

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:38:19 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 9:24:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:10:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:15:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 5:13:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Good choice, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Richard Aldington
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Amy Lowell
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Vacel Lindsay
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harry Kemp
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Donald Evans
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Allen Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Louise Norton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Hilda Doolittle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Mina Loy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> William Carlos Williams
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Alfred Kreymborg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Ezra Pound
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay.."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Ping: Jordy:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I'm reading of another from that great generation of poets, Octavio Paz:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "This is the mirror that devours mirrors....." -Octavio Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> "Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial, lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role. For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once—a man for far too many seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country and countrymen. Among other things..."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Thanks Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, I hope your day is as great as the one we are having here in the South.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, I hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > thank you, same to you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Shalom Will
> >> >> >> >> Hello there, Jordy.
> >> >
> >> >> > hola Will
> >> >> Great to see you again, Jordy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> Good morning, Jordy.
> >>
> >
> > Shalom, Will
> Hello there, my friend.
>
> 🙂
hola Will