On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:

> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison

Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).

It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.

This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
>
> Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
>
> It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
>
> This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.

Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> >
> > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> >
> > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> >
> > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"

Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > >
> > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > >
> > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > >
> > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
>

Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.

NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
>
>> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison

> Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).

> It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.

> This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.

Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:27:15 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > >
> > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > >
> > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > >
> > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> >
> Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.
Yes, that's quite an education, and it shows.

Just because Harlan Ellison may have written the common phrase in one of his books, doesn't mean that he originated it or that he should be credited for it. Many, many people have written this "advice" since Joseph Heller/Buck Henry originated it. We have seen the quote attributed to Kurt Cobain, John Lyman (?), Woody Allen and others, plus written with no author noted. It is our informed opinion that John Francis O'Donnell wrote it.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:27:15 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > >
> > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > >
> > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> > >
> > Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.
> Yes, that's quite an education, and it shows.

It is also a lie and a misrepresentation, but I know that isn't really important to your troll agenda, Nancy Gene.

🙂
> Just because Harlan Ellison may have written the common phrase in one of his books, doesn't mean that he originated it or that he should be credited for it. Many, many people have written this "advice" since Joseph Heller/Buck Henry originated it. We have seen the quote attributed to Kurt Cobain, John Lyman (?), Woody Allen and others, plus written with no author noted. It is our informed opinion that John Francis O'Donnell wrote it.

Harlan Ellison was the writer I quoted, so i attributed him

HTH and HAND.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:48:24 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:27:15 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > > > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> > > >
> > > Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.
> > Yes, that's quite an education, and it shows.
> It is also a lie and a misrepresentation, but I know that isn't really important to your troll agenda, Nancy Gene.
>
> 🙂
> > Just because Harlan Ellison may have written the common phrase in one of his books, doesn't mean that he originated it or that he should be credited for it. Many, many people have written this "advice" since Joseph Heller/Buck Henry originated it. We have seen the quote attributed to Kurt Cobain, John Lyman (?), Woody Allen and others, plus written with no author noted.. It is our informed opinion that John Francis O'Donnell wrote it.
> Harlan Ellison was the writer I quoted, so i attributed him

Just as you had unwittingly quoted him quoting Fat's Waller.

The problem with that (other than demonstrating your ignorance) is that you make it appear as if Harlan had originated the line, thereby contributing to the deluge of misinformation that plagues the internet.

Next thing you'll be attributing a Leonard Cohen poem to Baby Monkey Dance on the grounds that you were quoting his unattributed posting of it.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:27:15 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > >
> > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > >
> > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > >
> > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> >
> Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.

No, Stan Lee is not a major influence on Will Dockery:

"I've been the luckiest man in the world because I've had friends, and to have the right friends is everything: people you can depend on, people who tell you the truth if you ask something."
~~Stan Lee

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:48:24 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:27:15 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > > > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> > > >
> > > Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.
> > Yes, that's quite an education, and it shows.
> It is also a lie and a misrepresentation, but I know that isn't really important to your troll agenda, Nancy Gene.
>
> > Just because Harlan Ellison may have written the common phrase in one of his books, doesn't mean that he originated it or that he should be credited for it. Many, many people have written this "advice" since Joseph Heller/Buck Henry originated it. We have seen the quote attributed to Kurt Cobain, John Lyman (?), Woody Allen and others, plus written with no author noted.. It is our informed opinion that John Francis O'Donnell wrote it.
> Harlan Ellison was the writer I quoted, so i attributed him
>
> HTH and HAND.

Definitely sounds like something Ellison would say...

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:27:15 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:14:28 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > >
> > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > >
> > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > Will incorrectly attributes everything to Harlan Ellison -- including Fat's Waller's famous line, "One never knows, do one?"
> > > Will Dockery has only read the works of 3 people: Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Harlan Ellison. Therefore, all knowledge flows from them.
> > >
> > Don't forget Stan Lee. Most of Will's literary awareness comes from comic books.
> Yes, that's quite an education, and it shows.
>
> Just because Harlan Ellison may have written the common phrase in one of his books, doesn't mean that he originated it or that he should be credited for it. Many, many people have written this "advice" since Joseph Heller/Buck Henry originated it. We have seen the quote attributed to Kurt Cobain, John Lyman (?), Woody Allen and others, plus written with no author noted. It is our informed opinion that John Francis O'Donnell wrote it.

This brings up a sticky situation-- knowing when a writer actually is coming up with something unique and not echoing someone else-- annotations and footnotes used to handle these matters. "A Tree Grows In Brooklyn" footnoted two popular songs that were used in its text.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> NancyGene wrote:
> > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, W.Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
>
> > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
>
> > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
>
> > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.

This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?

Might not be online...

People are paranoid of me, but I'm usually not out to get them, but their paranoia is...

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> >
> > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> >
> > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> >
> > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
>
> Might not be online...

Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> People are paranoid of me, but I'm usually not out to get them, but their paranoia is...

The only thing we have to be paranoid about is paranoia Itself...

--'Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself' (title of FDR’s First Inaugural Address) ~~FDR
Brings up an interesting note: FDR may have been paraphrasing Thoreau to create what became a unique quote of his own...
"As Jacob and Benzkofer report, Eleanor Roosevelt was once asked about the origins of this frequently quoted sentence in her husband’s first Inaugural Address, and she suggested that it must have come from Thoreau, whose journal entry for September 7, 1851 included the line, “Nothing is so much to be feared as fear.” Her suggestion proceeded from her belief that her husband had taken a volume of Thoreau’s writings with him to the hotel where the final version of the Address was written, implying that this practice would have been routine. While the debate about the source of this historic declaration continues, Eleanor’s recollection of Franklin’s reading habits certainly stands as yet another testament to Thoreau’s ubiquitous influence in American history, politics, and philosophy."
--https://thoreausociety.org/thoreau-fdr/

The Internet also seems to attribute the quote to Churchill
altho his society doesn't seem to acknowledge it-- can't really tell, the webpage isn't displaying properly for me, but I wouldn't be surprised since the concept is such a simple one that many can think it up on their own without help from leaders.
https://winstonchurchill.org/get-involved/
Funny, one of the misattributions seemed to be due to the search engine merging the page title with unrelated text from a second column of the web page for its text excerpt:
`The Only Thing We Have to Fear is Fear Itself'
The American Journal of Medicine
https://www.amjmed.com › article › pdf
by JS Alpert · 2015 — As Winston Churchill is alleged to have once said during a visit to the US: “Americans will always do the right thing after they have exhausted all the.
I'm almost afraid of some comix fools attributing the quote to Scarecrow from Batman!
https://www.magicalquote.com/moviequotes/theres-nothing-to-fear-but-fear-itself/

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > NancyGene wrote:
>> > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
>> >
>> > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
>> >
>> > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
>> >
>> > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
>> > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
>> This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
>>
>> Might not be online...

> Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.

Cool...

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > >
> > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > >
> > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > >
> > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> >
> > Might not be online...
> Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.

That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.

I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > >
> > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > >
> > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > >
> > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > >
> > > Might not be online...
> > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.

No, I said one of his 1980s collections,

> I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.

Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:24:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > >
> > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > >
> > > > Might not be online...
> > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> > I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.
> Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.
Yes, I'm certain that it does.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:39:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:24:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in..
> > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > >
> > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> > > I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.
> > Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.
> Yes, I'm certain that it does.

Nancy Gene's troll spew?

Obviously.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:48:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:39:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:24:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:21 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> > > > I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.
> > > Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.
> > Yes, I'm certain that it does.
> Nancy Gene's troll spew?
>
> Obviously.

You're really confused this morning, Donkey.

You were addressing my claim that "you made the whole thing up" when you wrote "Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage."

Contextually, your statement is saying that your attempt to attribute the quote to Ellison remains an example of "troll garbage."

You really need to learn what words mean and how to use them correctly.

But even if you were calling my statement "garbage," your response would have been directed at me -- not NancyGene.

Next thing you know, you'll be wandering around the streets of Columbus at 3 in the morning trying to find a Waffle House where none exist.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961)..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > > > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> > > > > I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.
> > > > Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.
> > > Yes, I'm certain that it does.
> > Nancy Gene's troll spew?
> >
> > Obviously.
> You're really confused this morning

No, I'm not.

🙂

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>> NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > > > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > > > > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> > > > > > I'm beginning to think that you made the whole thing up.
> > > > > Think what you want, troll, it remains troll garbage.
> > > > Yes, I'm certain that it does.
> > > Nancy Gene's troll spew?
> > >
> > > Obviously.
> > You're really confused this morning
> No, I'm not.

You're so confused that you don't even know you're confused -- even after your confusion has been explained to you.

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:05:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>> NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > > > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > > > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > > > > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > > > > > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,

No confusion here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> You're so confused

See above.

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:26:44 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:05:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >>> NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you." -Harlan Ellison
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery, please provide your source that Harlan Ellison originated this saying. We have found that the quote is actually: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” The quote seems to have originated from "Catch-22" but in the movie (the script written by Buck Henry) and not in the book (written by Joseph Heller, 1961).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It is also attributed to Kurt Cobain, who may have said it but didn't originate it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is how wrong information is circulated--give your source and be sure of the quote.
> > > > > > > > > > > Whether Harlan Ellison wrote it first or not I'm not sure, but he definitely did write it, so I'll look up the book he used this phrase in.
> > > > > > > > > > This is a book in your Harlan Ellison collection..?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Might not be online...
> > > > > > > > > Maybe not, it was from one of his early 1980s short story collections, if my memory serves me well.
> > > > > > > > That narrows it down to one of 400 short stories.
> > > > > > > No, I said one of his 1980s collections,
> No confusion here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > You're so confused
>
> See above.

You're so confused as to think that our above exchanges don't show it.