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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 1 Aug 2023 16:30 UTC

On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 2:50:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>
> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>
> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>
> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>
> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>
> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>
> Richard Aldington
> Amy Lowell
> Vacel Lindsay
> Harry Kemp
> Donald Evans
> Allen Norton
> Louise Norton
> H.D.
> Mina Loy
> William Carlos Williams
> Alfred Kreymborg
> Ezra Pound
>
> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>
> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

HTH and HAND.

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 4 Aug 2023 18:06 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>

> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>
>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>
>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>
>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>
>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>
>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>
>> Richard Aldington
>> Amy Lowell
>> Vacel Lindsay
>> Harry Kemp
>> Donald Evans
>> Allen Norton
>> Louise Norton
>> H.D.
>> Mina Loy
>> William Carlos Williams
>> Alfred Kreymborg
>> Ezra Pound

Some faves here and some I have yet to discover...!
>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>
>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

> HTH and HAND.

***

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 6 Aug 2023 21:57 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>>

>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>
>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>
>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>>
>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>
>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>
>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>
>>> Richard Aldington
>>> Amy Lowell
>>> Vachel Lindsay
>>> Harry Kemp
>>> Donald Evans
>>> Allen Norton
>>> Louise Norton
>>> H.D.
>>> Mina Loy
>>> William Carlos Williams
>>> Alfred Kreymborg
>>> Ezra Pound

> Some faves here and some I have yet to discover...!

Agreed.

>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

>> HTH and HAND.

...

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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:59 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
>
> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>
>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>
>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>>
>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>
>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>
>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>
>> Richard Aldington
>> Amy Lowell
>> Vachel Lindsay
>> Harry Kemp
>> Donald Evans
>> Allen Norton
>> Louise Norton
>> H.D.
>> Mina Loy
>> William Carlos Williams
>> Alfred Kreymborg
>> Ezra Pound
>>
>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>
>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

> HTH and HAND.

Intertesting history piece...

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 02:34 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>
>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>
>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Ezra Pound called it.
>>>
>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>
>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>
>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>
>>> Richard Aldington
>>> Amy Lowell
>>> Vachel Lindsay
>>> Harry Kemp
>>> Donald Evans
>>> Allen Norton
>>> Louise Norton
>>> H.D.
>>> Mina Loy
>>> William Carlos Williams
>>> Alfred Kreymborg
>>> Ezra Pound
>>>
>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

>> HTH and HAND.

> Intertesting history piece...

T say the least.

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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 19:04 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>
>>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>
>>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Ezra Pound called it.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>
>>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>
>>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>
>>>> Richard Aldington
>>>> Amy Lowell
>>>> Vachel Lindsay
>>>> Harry Kemp
>>>> Donald Evans
>>>> Allen Norton
>>>> Louise Norton
>>>> H.D.
>>>> Mina Loy
>>>> William Carlos Williams
>>>> Alfred Kreymborg
>>>> Ezra Pound
>>>>
>>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

>>> HTH and HAND.

>> Intertesting history piece...

> T say the least.

Indeed and agreed...

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 02:39 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>>>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>>
>>>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>>
>>>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Ezra Pound called it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>>
>>>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Aldington
>>>>> Amy Lowell
>>>>> Vachel Lindsay
>>>>> Harry Kemp
>>>>> Donald Evans
>>>>> Allen Norton
>>>>> Louise Norton
>>>>> H.D.
>>>>> Mina Loy
>>>>> William Carlos Williams
>>>>> Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>> Ezra Pound
>>>>>
>>>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

>>>> HTH and HAND.

> Intertesting history piece...

It even got trolls like Pendragon interested.

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Re: Poets of Revolt aka Free-Versers / Strange Bedfellows

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:12:31 +0000
Subject: Re: Poets of Revolt aka Free-Versers / Strange Bedfellows
From: tzod9...@gmail.com (General-Zod)
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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:12 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Zod wrote:

>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about Mina Loy:

>>>>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Ezra Pound called it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Aldington
>>>>>> Amy Lowell
>>>>>> Vachel Lindsay
>>>>>> Harry Kemp
>>>>>> Donald Evans
>>>>>> Allen Norton
>>>>>> Louise Norton
>>>>>> H.D.
>>>>>> Mina Loy
>>>>>> William Carlos Williams
>>>>>> Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>>> Ezra Pound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

>>>>> HTH and HAND.

>> Intertesting history piece...

> It even got trolls like Pendragon interested.

> 🙂

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