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SubjectAuthor
* Twitter suspensionGary McGath
+* Re: Twitter suspensionPeter Trei
|`- Re: Twitter suspensionWolffan
+* Re: Twitter suspensionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
|`* Re: Twitter suspensionKevrob
| `* Re: Twitter suspensionGary McGath
|  `* Re: Twitter suspensionScott Dorsey
|   `- Re: Twitter suspensionGary McGath
+- Re: Twitter suspensionSomeone Else
`* Re: Twitter suspensionKeith F. Lynch
 +* Re: Twitter suspensionGary McGath
 |+- Re: Twitter suspensioneleeper@optonline.net
 |`- Re: Twitter suspensionScott Dorsey
 `- Re: Twitter suspensionTim Merrigan

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 by: Gary McGath - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 12:43 UTC

My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending the
use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must be
hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Peter Trei - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 14:06 UTC

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 8:43:22 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending the
> use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must be
> hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.

....and people think Elon Musk can make Twitter * worse*?

pt

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 15:52 UTC

Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote in
news:tcdqh8$27qf6$1@dont-email.me:

> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for
> recommending the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a
> book. They must be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.

Actually, the point is more that they don't hire *anyone* to review
tweets. It's all done by AI, which is to say, broken shitware that
can't do a tenth of what's claimed. Hiring *people* would cost money.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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 by: Kevrob - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 01:55 UTC

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 11:52:40 AM UTC-4, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote in
> news:tcdqh8$27qf6$1...@dont-email.me:
> > My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for
> > recommending the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a
> > book. They must be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
> Actually, the point is more that they don't hire *anyone* to review
> tweets. It's all done by AI, which is to say, broken shitware that
> can't do a tenth of what's claimed. Hiring *people* would cost money.
>
> --

The Twitterati: "What's a book? or "What are pages?
What do they recommend, Snippy Scissors?

https://m.facebook.com/Drtonguestoys/videos/your-daily-trip-down-nostalgia-ave-brought-to-you-by-snippy-brand-electric-sciss/512478653692523/

--
Kevin R

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 by: Gary McGath - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 09:57 UTC

On 8/3/22 9:55 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 11:52:40 AM UTC-4, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote in
>> news:tcdqh8$27qf6$1...@dont-email.me:
>>> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for
>>> recommending the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a
>>> book. They must be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>> Actually, the point is more that they don't hire *anyone* to review
>> tweets. It's all done by AI, which is to say, broken shitware that
>> can't do a tenth of what's claimed. Hiring *people* would cost money.
>>
>> --
>
> The Twitterati: "What's a book? or "What are pages?
> What do they recommend, Snippy Scissors?

I talked with a librarian yesterday, and she said an index card is best.
I'd think a sharp blade would cut at the crease with less risk of
tearing the page.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>On 8/3/22 9:55 PM, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 11:52:40 AM UTC-4, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote in
>>> news:tcdqh8$27qf6$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for
>>>> recommending the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a
>>>> book. They must be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>>> Actually, the point is more that they don't hire *anyone* to review
>>> tweets. It's all done by AI, which is to say, broken shitware that
>>> can't do a tenth of what's claimed. Hiring *people* would cost money.
>>
>> The Twitterati: "What's a book? or "What are pages?
>> What do they recommend, Snippy Scissors?
>
>I talked with a librarian yesterday, and she said an index card is best.
>I'd think a sharp blade would cut at the crease with less risk of
>tearing the page.

'Absolutely real-- have pages and everything. I thought they'd be a nice
durable cardboard. Matter of fact, they're absolutely real... It's a
triumph. What thoroughness! What realism! Knew when to stop too--
didn't cut the pages. But what do you want? What do you expect?'
-- Owl Eyes, in the Great Gatsby, remarking on Gatsby's library

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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 by: Gary McGath - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:08 UTC

On 8/4/22 9:15 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

>> I talked with a librarian yesterday, and she said an index card is best.
>> I'd think a sharp blade would cut at the crease with less risk of
>> tearing the page.
>
> 'Absolutely real-- have pages and everything. I thought they'd be a nice
> durable cardboard. Matter of fact, they're absolutely real... It's a
> triumph. What thoroughness! What realism! Knew when to stop too--
> didn't cut the pages. But what do you want? What do you expect?'
> -- Owl Eyes, in the Great Gatsby, remarking on Gatsby's library
>

Mad once had a mock ad for a "Ridiculously Expensive Book Club" or
something like that. The description said, "Each page is uncut, because
these books are for showing off, not reading."

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Someone Else - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:22 UTC

In Message-ID:<tcdqh8$27qf6$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

>My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending the
>use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must be
>hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.

https://www.techdirt.com/2019/11/20/masnicks-impossibility-theorem-content-moderation-scale-is-impossible-to-do-well/

https://www.techdirt.com/tag/content-moderation-at-scale/

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 by: Wolffan - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:47 UTC

On 03 Aug 2022, Peter Trei wrote
(in article<a5ebc803-b3ef-49be-812a-b821396b42cbn@googlegroups.com>):

> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 8:43:22 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
> > My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending the
> > use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must be
> > hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>
> ...and people think Elon Musk can make Twitter * worse*?
>
> pt

He’s a white Persian cat and a hollowed-out volcano lair short of being a
Bond supervillian, so he could make it worse. He’d have to put some effort
into doing that, though.

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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 21:47 UTC

Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending
> the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must
> be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.

Suspended for how long?

Are uncut books still sold? I haven't seen one in decades. Very
likely whoever suspended you, even if human, had never heard of them.
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
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Re: Twitter suspension

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From: gar...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com (Gary McGath)
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 by: Gary McGath - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 00:15 UTC

On 8/4/22 5:47 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending
>> the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must
>> be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>
> Suspended for how long?

The last time it was months.
>
> Are uncut books still sold? I haven't seen one in decades. Very
> likely whoever suspended you, even if human, had never heard of them.

They're still sold, but not on the new-book market. More often it's a
book in which just one pair of pages failed to be fully separated, but
even that only happens with old books, as far as I know.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Re: Twitter suspension

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 by: eleeper@optonline.ne - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 12:29 UTC

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 8:16:01 PM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
> On 8/4/22 5:47 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> > Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
> >> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending
> >> the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must
> >> be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
> >
> > Suspended for how long?
> The last time it was months.
> >
> > Are uncut books still sold? I haven't seen one in decades. Very
> > likely whoever suspended you, even if human, had never heard of them.
> They're still sold, but not on the new-book market. More often it's a
> book in which just one pair of pages failed to be fully separated, but
> even that only happens with old books, as far as I know.

One of my jobs when I worked in the UMass library in 1969 was cutting
pages in new books. All of them were foreign-language, so, at least
back then, it was more common in other countries.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper

Re: Twitter suspension

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 by: Tim Merrigan - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 17:39 UTC

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 21:47:08 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
<kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

>Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending
>> the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must
>> be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>
>Suspended for how long?
>
>Are uncut books still sold? I haven't seen one in decades. Very
>likely whoever suspended you, even if human, had never heard of them.

Except for a few art books (where the structure of the book is part of
the art) I don't think I've heard of any published in my lifetime
(since 1954). Though I've seen a couple older ones (from the
nineteenth century) that still had a signature or two uncut.
--

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Re: Twitter suspension

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 by: Scott Dorsey - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 19:42 UTC

Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>On 8/4/22 5:47 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>>> My Twitter account, @garym03062, has been suspended for recommending
>>> the use of a sharp blade to separate the pages of a book. They must
>>> be hiring first-grade teachers to review tweets.
>>
>> Suspended for how long?
>
>The last time it was months.
>>
>> Are uncut books still sold? I haven't seen one in decades. Very
>> likely whoever suspended you, even if human, had never heard of them.
>
>They're still sold, but not on the new-book market. More often it's a
>book in which just one pair of pages failed to be fully separated, but
>even that only happens with old books, as far as I know.

These days most presses are automated and there's nobody folding signatures
by hand or hand-cutting them on a guillotine before sewing them up with a
needle.

There ARE a few crazy small-run presses out there like that, though. There's
a shop in Richmond VA that prints small poetry books with hand-set type
and hand binding. I would not be surprised if they left the pages uncut.
This is not typical of modern production, however.
--scott

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