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* Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - March 2022 - Preliminary Round - Group 4Bruce
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| `* Re: Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - March 2022 - Preliminary Round - Group 4RWC
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 by: Mark D. - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:00 UTC

On Mar 6, 2022 at 12:07:17 PM CST, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
>> "Into The Mystic" is better by Johnny Rivers.
>
> Diane agrees with this too.

Diane can speak for herself, no?

--md

remove "xx" for email

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 by: Bruce - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:35 UTC

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:59:03 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2022 at 11:04:07 AM CST, "Dennis C from Tennessee"
> <dennis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, nothing about sales, I meant that the Shadows of Knight version is much
> > better. Diane agrees.
> >
> > That makes three of you. Shadows of Knight' lead singer's mama was the other
> > one baby!!
> >
> > Give Mark some time to compile that voluminous list of shitty soul why
> > dontcha'?
> You can start with all the Stylistics records that were produced by Hugo and
> Luigi. But to discuss soul (and the Brit groups) is off topic.

The Stylistics records are classics, are you fucking insane?

You Are Everything
Betcha By Golly Wow
Break Up To Make Up

Al 7s and 8s. I ranked Russell Tompkins Jr. in the top 10 of all lead singers of vocal groups here.

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_lead_singers_of_vocal_groups.html

There is almost NO bad soul. Some are not great, but almost everything I've ever heard is at least okay (4) or better.

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:00:09 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2022 at 12:07:17 PM CST, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> "Into The Mystic" is better by Johnny Rivers.
> >
> > Diane agrees with this too.
> Diane can speak for herself, no?

Of course, but she was here at the time and told me that she agreed that the Johnny Rivers "Mystic" was better.

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 by: DianeE - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 22:23 UTC

On 3/6/2022 12:14 AM, RWC wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 16:44:33 -0500, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/5/2022 3:10 PM, RWC wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Bo is semi-draggy forgettable in comparison - for most white boys
>>> and girls out there, I'm pretty sure.
>> ------------
>> Does your definition of "white" include Ashkenazic Jews? Or are we
>> white-with-an-asterisk? I love that Mr. Bo record, nothing draggy about it.
>
> Quote:
> Ashkenazi Jews are not genetically European, nor are they culturally
> European. In their own Jewish-orientated mainstream media, which is
> generally not intended for non-Jewish audiences, they adamantly state
> that Jews are not White/European.
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That's what I thought you'd quote, a neo-Nazi definition. Thanks for
the confirmation.
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>
> Dare I ask, is Bruce an Ashkenazic Jew?
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Bruce is sui generis!

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 2:57:59 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:

> I'd take the plenty hip Kinks off of your list of bland Brit-pop,

How hip can an act (like the Kinks) possible be when they essentially have no non-white listeners?

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 22:40 UTC

Bruce is sui generis!

Bruce is more of an accommodating pighead!!

A generous sooey, if you will.

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 by: RWC - Mon, 7 Mar 2022 01:41 UTC

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 17:23:46 -0500, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>> Dare I ask, is Bruce an Ashkenazic Jew?
>-------------
>Bruce is sui generis!

it's easy to decode you prevarification, thanks Diane :)

And my quote was 100% innocent, it's what my very brief research
revealed. It made sense in that there has been a general notion (in
the public at large, not just with Nazis) that these Jews originated
in what today we call Israel and the Near East.

Further, I now read, these Jews were expelled from the Mediterranean
and settled in what is now Poland around the 12th century, where they
largely eschewed intermarriage.

But, based on accounts such as those of Jewish historian Flavius
Josephus, by the time of the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D.
70, as many as 6 million Jews were living in the Roman Empire, but
outside Israel, mainly in Italy and Southern Europe.

What might be misleading, is that there may indeed have been more
than a few intermarriages, with local Europeans, mainly women,
converting to Judaism.

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 20:41:12 -0500, RWC <letsrock@opbox.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 17:23:46 -0500, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:
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>>> Dare I ask, is Bruce an Ashkenazic Jew?
>>-------------
>>Bruce is sui generis!
>
>it's easy to decode you prevarification, thanks Diane :)
>
That should be, your prevarication, sorry.

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 by: Mark D. - Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:46 UTC

On Mar 6, 2022 at 3:35:42 PM CST, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:59:03 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
>> On Mar 6, 2022 at 11:04:07 AM CST, "Dennis C from Tennessee"
>> <dennis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, nothing about sales, I meant that the Shadows of Knight version is much
>>> better. Diane agrees.
>>>
>>> That makes three of you. Shadows of Knight' lead singer's mama was the other
>>> one baby!!
>>>
>>> Give Mark some time to compile that voluminous list of shitty soul why
>>> dontcha'?
>> You can start with all the Stylistics records that were produced by Hugo and
>> Luigi. But to discuss soul (and the Brit groups) is off topic.
>
> The Stylistics records are classics, are you fucking insane?
>
> You Are Everything
> Betcha By Golly Wow
> Break Up To Make Up
>
> Al 7s and 8s. I ranked Russell Tompkins Jr. in the top 10 of all lead singers
> of vocal groups here.
>
> https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_lead_singers_of_vocal_groups.html
>
> There is almost NO bad soul. Some are not great, but almost everything I've
> ever heard is at least okay (4) or better.

Can't you read. Hugo and Luigi did not produce the records you mentioned,
which are indeed excellent.

--md

remove "xx" for email

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 7 Mar 2022 04:15 UTC

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 10:46:50 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2022 at 3:35:42 PM CST, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:59:03 PM UTC-5, Mark D. wrote:
> >> On Mar 6, 2022 at 11:04:07 AM CST, "Dennis C from Tennessee"
> >> <dennis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, nothing about sales, I meant that the Shadows of Knight version is much
> >>> better. Diane agrees.
> >>>
> >>> That makes three of you. Shadows of Knight' lead singer's mama was the other
> >>> one baby!!
> >>>
> >>> Give Mark some time to compile that voluminous list of shitty soul why
> >>> dontcha'?
> >> You can start with all the Stylistics records that were produced by Hugo and
> >> Luigi. But to discuss soul (and the Brit groups) is off topic.
> >
> > The Stylistics records are classics, are you fucking insane?
> >
> > You Are Everything
> > Betcha By Golly Wow
> > Break Up To Make Up
> >
> > Al 7s and 8s. I ranked Russell Tompkins Jr. in the top 10 of all lead singers
> > of vocal groups here.
> >
> > https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_lead_singers_of_vocal_groups.html
> >
> > There is almost NO bad soul. Some are not great, but almost everything I've
> > ever heard is at least okay (4) or better.
> Can't you read. Hugo and Luigi did not produce the records you mentioned,

The H&L records, like "Let's Put It All Together" are still good records. Some of their disco records weren't great, but those were not soul records. I don't consider anything after about 1975-76 to be soul anymore. Most black records by then were either funk or disco.

Can you give us a soul record from the 60s or early 70s (1970-72) that is bad?


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