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Subject: Re: Dream Song 14 / John Berryman
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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 9 Oct 2023 02:52 UTC

Victor Hugo wrote:
> Richard Oakley wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 10:47:10 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:11:48 AM UTC-5, Changes wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:43:54 AM UTC-5, VizantOr* wrote:
>
> > > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
> > > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
> > > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
> > > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
> > > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
> > > > > means you have no
> > > > >
> > > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
> > > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
> > > > > Peoples bore me,
> > > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
> > > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
> > > > > as bad as achilles,
> > > > >
> > > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
> > > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
> > > > > and somehow a dog
> > > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
> > > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
> > > > > behind: me, wag.
> > > > >
> > > > > *John Berryman*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
> > > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
> > > >
> > > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
> > >
> > > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
> > >
> > > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
> > >
> > > This is interesting (to me, at least).
> > >
> > > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
> > >
> > > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
> > >
> > > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
> > >
> > > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
> >
> > People love them catch-all labels, makes it so much easier
> > while they can think less-- win, win...
>
> > > And... so it goes.
> Yes they do...........
>
> Love your art by the way.........

I don't really remember Richard's art, is there a link?

Re: Dream Song 14 / John Berryman

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:10 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Victor Hugo wrote:
>> Richard Oakley wrote:
>> > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 10:47:10 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:11:48 AM UTC-5, Changes wrote:
>> > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:43:54 AM UTC-5, VizantOr* wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>> > > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>> > > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>> > > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>> > > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>> > > > > means you have no
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>> > > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>> > > > > Peoples bore me,
>> > > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>> > > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>> > > > > as bad as achilles,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>> > > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>> > > > > and somehow a dog
>> > > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>> > > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>> > > > > behind: me, wag.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *John Berryman*
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>> > > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>> > >
>> > > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>> > >
>> > > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>> > >
>> > > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>> > >
>> > > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>> > >
>> > > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>> > >
>> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>> > >
>> > > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>> > >
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>> > >
>> > > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>> >
>> > People love them catch-all labels, makes it so much easier
>> > while they can think less-- win, win...
>>
>> > > And... so it goes.
>> Yes they do...........
>>
>> Love your art by the way.........

> I don't really remember Richard's art, is there a link?

It might be here in this thread...?

Re: Dream Song 14 / John Berryman

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 11:31 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Victor Hugo wrote:
>>> Richard Oakley wrote:
>>> > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 10:47:10 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:11:48 AM UTC-5, Changes wrote:
>>> > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:43:54 AM UTC-5, VizantOr* wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>>> > > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>>> > > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>>> > > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>>> > > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>>> > > > > means you have no
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>>> > > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>>> > > > > Peoples bore me,
>>> > > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>>> > > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>>> > > > > as bad as achilles,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>>> > > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>>> > > > > and somehow a dog
>>> > > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>>> > > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>>> > > > > behind: me, wag.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > *John Berryman*
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>>> > > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>>> > > >
>>> > > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>>> > >
>>> > > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>>> > >
>>> > > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>>> > >
>>> > > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>>> > >
>>> > > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>>> > >
>>> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>>> > >
>>> > > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>>> > >
>>> > > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>>> >
>>> > People love them catch-all labels, makes it so much easier
>>> > while they can think less-- win, win...
>>>
>>> > > And... so it goes.
>>> Yes they do...........
>>>
>>> Love your art by the way.........

>> I don't really remember Richard's art, is there a link?

> It might be here in this thread...?

I don't remember, maybe.

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 2 Feb 2024 18:17 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> General-Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Victor Hugo wrote:
>>>> Richard Oakley wrote:
>>>> > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 10:47:10 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:11:48 AM UTC-5, Changes wrote:
>>>> > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:43:54 AM UTC-5, VizantOr* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>>>> > > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>>>> > > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>>>> > > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>>>> > > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>>>> > > > > means you have no
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>>>> > > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>>>> > > > > Peoples bore me,
>>>> > > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>>>> > > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>>>> > > > > as bad as achilles,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>>>> > > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>>>> > > > > and somehow a dog
>>>> > > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>>>> > > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>>>> > > > > behind: me, wag.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > *John Berryman*
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > --
>>>> > > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>>>> > > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>>>> > >
>>>> > > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>>>> > >
>>>> > > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>>>> > >
>>>> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>>>> > >
>>>> > > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>>>> > >
>>>> > > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>>>> >
>>>> > People love them catch-all labels, makes it so much easier
>>>> > while they can think less-- win, win...
>>>>
>>>> > > And... so it goes.
>>>> Yes they do...........
>>>>
>>>> Love your art by the way.........

>>> I don't really remember Richard's art, is there a link?

>> It might be here in this thread...?

> I don't remember, maybe.

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