On 2022-04-04 21:53:11 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
> On 4/3/2022 1:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <030420221438069795%nope@noway.com>,
>> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <673022677.670644667.463732.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Steve Dodds <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm watching Picard episode 4 or 5, they have time traveled to 2024
>>>>> and one of Picard's ancestors is in NASA preparing for a trip to Europa,
>>>>> really Europa in 2024! Then they mention she finds an organism on IO,
>>>>> thought it was Europa.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does nobody connected to this show understand science fiction? Does
>>>>> nobody connected with this show understand current events?
>
> It's set in an alternate Star Trek timeline.
>
>
>>>> I could defend this, but the hacks behind this don't understand Star Trek
>>>> history either.
>>>
>>> Not that they're paying attention, but Star Trek history is quite
>>> different from ours. For instance, we didn't have World War III -- at
>>> least, not yet. Of course, Voyager completely ignored WW3 when the
>>> ship went back in time to meet Sarah Silverman.
>
> Voyager didn't ignore it. There was a blink and you miss it reference.
>
>
>> I know people have already commented on the Guinan weirdness, where she
>> doesn't remember Picard even though she'd already met him in the 1800s
>> with Mark Twain, but if they're going to retcon her into not knowing
>> Picard in 2024, why would she be operating a bar at 10 Forward Street?
>
> I complained bitterly about Guinan not remembering Picard from the
> 1880s. But someone else pointed out that in the new timeline there
> wouldn't have been an Enterprise D captained by Picard to go back in
> time and meet her.
>
>
>> Even if she *did* remember Picard from the 1800s, she still wouldn't
>> know about the Enterprise-D and its 10-Forward lounge until the 23rd
>> Century, so we're just supposed to think her Los Angeles dive bar was a
>> tremendous coincidence or something?
>
> I rolled my eyes at that too. But it's easy enough to fanwank. She
> named the bar on the Enterprise after her bar on Earth.

A quick Google search turns up mostly Star Trek references, but there
are also a few other real-life places using that name, including a
"performing arts venue and bar" in Massachusetts.

> It might very well be coincidentally on the 10th deck, but if her bar
> wasn't there no one would call it 10 forward.

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:t2gcfp$1j9f$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2022-04-04 21:53:11 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>> On 4/3/2022 1:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <030420221438069795%nope@noway.com>,
>>> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <673022677.670644667.463732.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.co
>>>> m>, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Steve Dodds <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm watching Picard episode 4 or 5, they have time
>>>>>> traveled to 2024 and one of Picard's ancestors is in NASA
>>>>>> preparing for a trip to Europa, really Europa in 2024! Then
>>>>>> they mention she finds an organism on IO, thought it was
>>>>>> Europa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does nobody connected to this show understand science
>>>>>> fiction? Does nobody connected with this show understand
>>>>>> current events?
>>
>> It's set in an alternate Star Trek timeline.
>>
>>
>>>>> I could defend this, but the hacks behind this don't
>>>>> understand Star Trek history either.
>>>>
>>>> Not that they're paying attention, but Star Trek history is
>>>> quite different from ours. For instance, we didn't have World
>>>> War III -- at least, not yet. Of course, Voyager completely
>>>> ignored WW3 when the ship went back in time to meet Sarah
>>>> Silverman.
>>
>> Voyager didn't ignore it. There was a blink and you miss it
>> reference.
>>
>>
>>> I know people have already commented on the Guinan weirdness,
>>> where she doesn't remember Picard even though she'd already
>>> met him in the 1800s with Mark Twain, but if they're going to
>>> retcon her into not knowing Picard in 2024, why would she be
>>> operating a bar at 10 Forward Street?
>>
>> I complained bitterly about Guinan not remembering Picard from
>> the 1880s. But someone else pointed out that in the new
>> timeline there wouldn't have been an Enterprise D captained by
>> Picard to go back in time and meet her.
>>
>>
>>> Even if she *did* remember Picard from the 1800s, she still
>>> wouldn't know about the Enterprise-D and its 10-Forward lounge
>>> until the 23rd Century, so we're just supposed to think her
>>> Los Angeles dive bar was a tremendous coincidence or
>>> something?
>>
>> I rolled my eyes at that too. But it's easy enough to fanwank.
>> She named the bar on the Enterprise after her bar on Earth.
>
> A quick Google search turns up mostly Star Trek references, but
> there are also a few other real-life places using that name,
> including a "performing arts venue and bar" in Massachusetts.
>
Are there any that aren't clearly based on the show?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 2022-04-05 04:55:13 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:t2gcfp$1j9f$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>> On 2022-04-04 21:53:11 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>> On 4/3/2022 1:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <030420221438069795%nope@noway.com>,
>>>> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <673022677.670644667.463732.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.co
>>>>> m>, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Steve Dodds <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm watching Picard episode 4 or 5, they have time
>>>>>>> traveled to 2024 and one of Picard's ancestors is in NASA
>>>>>>> preparing for a trip to Europa, really Europa in 2024! Then
>>>>>>> they mention she finds an organism on IO, thought it was
>>>>>>> Europa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does nobody connected to this show understand science
>>>>>>> fiction? Does nobody connected with this show understand
>>>>>>> current events?
>>>
>>> It's set in an alternate Star Trek timeline.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I could defend this, but the hacks behind this don't
>>>>>> understand Star Trek history either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that they're paying attention, but Star Trek history is
>>>>> quite different from ours. For instance, we didn't have World
>>>>> War III -- at least, not yet. Of course, Voyager completely
>>>>> ignored WW3 when the ship went back in time to meet Sarah
>>>>> Silverman.
>>>
>>> Voyager didn't ignore it. There was a blink and you miss it
>>> reference.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I know people have already commented on the Guinan weirdness,
>>>> where she doesn't remember Picard even though she'd already
>>>> met him in the 1800s with Mark Twain, but if they're going to
>>>> retcon her into not knowing Picard in 2024, why would she be
>>>> operating a bar at 10 Forward Street?
>>>
>>> I complained bitterly about Guinan not remembering Picard from
>>> the 1880s. But someone else pointed out that in the new
>>> timeline there wouldn't have been an Enterprise D captained by
>>> Picard to go back in time and meet her.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Even if she *did* remember Picard from the 1800s, she still
>>>> wouldn't know about the Enterprise-D and its 10-Forward lounge
>>>> until the 23rd Century, so we're just supposed to think her
>>>> Los Angeles dive bar was a tremendous coincidence or
>>>> something?
>>>
>>> I rolled my eyes at that too. But it's easy enough to fanwank.
>>> She named the bar on the Enterprise after her bar on Earth.
>>
>> A quick Google search turns up mostly Star Trek references, but
>> there are also a few other real-life places using that name,
>> including a "performing arts venue and bar" in Massachusetts.
>
> Are there any that aren't clearly based on the show?

Without visiting them all and them all having a "why we called it this"
page (or emailing/phoning them to ask), there's no way to know. One is
an after-school centre, so may well be for kids 10 years and old, hence
"TenForward".

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:t2gnk9$v1e$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2022-04-05 04:55:13 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>> news:t2gcfp$1j9f$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>> On 2022-04-04 21:53:11 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
>>>> On 4/3/2022 1:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <030420221438069795%nope@noway.com>,
>>>>> A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <673022677.670644667.463732.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.
>>>>>> co m>, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Steve Dodds <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'm watching Picard episode 4 or 5, they have time
>>>>>>>> traveled to 2024 and one of Picard's ancestors is in NASA
>>>>>>>> preparing for a trip to Europa, really Europa in 2024!
>>>>>>>> Then they mention she finds an organism on IO, thought it
>>>>>>>> was Europa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does nobody connected to this show understand science
>>>>>>>> fiction? Does nobody connected with this show understand
>>>>>>>> current events?
>>>>
>>>> It's set in an alternate Star Trek timeline.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I could defend this, but the hacks behind this don't
>>>>>>> understand Star Trek history either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that they're paying attention, but Star Trek history is
>>>>>> quite different from ours. For instance, we didn't have
>>>>>> World War III -- at least, not yet. Of course, Voyager
>>>>>> completely ignored WW3 when the ship went back in time to
>>>>>> meet Sarah Silverman.
>>>>
>>>> Voyager didn't ignore it. There was a blink and you miss it
>>>> reference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I know people have already commented on the Guinan
>>>>> weirdness, where she doesn't remember Picard even though
>>>>> she'd already met him in the 1800s with Mark Twain, but if
>>>>> they're going to retcon her into not knowing Picard in 2024,
>>>>> why would she be operating a bar at 10 Forward Street?
>>>>
>>>> I complained bitterly about Guinan not remembering Picard
>>>> from the 1880s. But someone else pointed out that in the new
>>>> timeline there wouldn't have been an Enterprise D captained
>>>> by Picard to go back in time and meet her.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Even if she *did* remember Picard from the 1800s, she still
>>>>> wouldn't know about the Enterprise-D and its 10-Forward
>>>>> lounge until the 23rd Century, so we're just supposed to
>>>>> think her Los Angeles dive bar was a tremendous coincidence
>>>>> or something?
>>>>
>>>> I rolled my eyes at that too. But it's easy enough to
>>>> fanwank. She named the bar on the Enterprise after her bar on
>>>> Earth.
>>>
>>> A quick Google search turns up mostly Star Trek references,
>>> but there are also a few other real-life places using that
>>> name, including a "performing arts venue and bar" in
>>> Massachusetts.
>>
>> Are there any that aren't clearly based on the show?
>
> Without visiting them all and them all having a "why we called
> it this" page (or emailing/phoning them to ask), there's no way
> to know. One is an after-school centre, so may well be for kids
> 10 years and old, hence "TenForward".
>
I'll bet they were still inspired by the show.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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