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"Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the Wendat language

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Subject: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the Wendat language
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by: NancyGene - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:57 UTC

"Huron Carol"
St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron

"Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
Jesus, he is born
They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
Jesus, he is born
Three have left for such, those who are elders
Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
He will seize the path, he who leads them there
Jesus, he is born
As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
Jesus, he is born
Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
Jesus, he is born
"We will give to him praise for his name,
Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us.
It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
Jesus, he is born."
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Huron/Wendat Language:

"Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.

Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.

Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.

Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.

Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."

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(We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)

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by: NancyGene - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 14:14 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:57:18 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> "Huron Carol"
> St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron
>
> "Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
> Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
> Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
> Jesus, he is born
> They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
> They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
> Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
> Jesus, he is born
> Three have left for such, those who are elders
> Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
> He will seize the path, he who leads them there
> Jesus, he is born
> As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
> the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
> Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
> Jesus, he is born
> Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
> They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
> They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
> Jesus, he is born
> "We will give to him praise for his name,
> Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us.
> It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
> Jesus, he is born."
> ----------
>
> Huron/Wendat Language:
>
> "Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
> O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
> ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
> Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
>
> Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
> yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
> Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
> Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
>
> Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
> Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
> aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
> Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
>
> Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
> avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
> aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
> Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
>
> Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
> kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
> tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
> Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."
>
> ----------
> (We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)

We are respectful of Native American heritage and are learning Wendat. We know that Ash speaks that, along with 200 other languages, so we will be able to communicate secretly (for the most part) about his weapons and plans.

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by: NancyGene - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 21:33 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:14:03 PM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:57:18 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > "Huron Carol"
> > St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron
> >
> > "Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
> > Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
> > Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
> > Jesus, he is born
> > They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
> > They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
> > Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
> > Jesus, he is born
> > Three have left for such, those who are elders
> > Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
> > He will seize the path, he who leads them there
> > Jesus, he is born
> > As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
> > the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
> > Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
> > Jesus, he is born
> > Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
> > They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
> > They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
> > Jesus, he is born
> > "We will give to him praise for his name,
> > Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us.
> > It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
> > Jesus, he is born."
> > ----------
> >
> > Huron/Wendat Language:
> >
> > "Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
> > O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
> > ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
> > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> >
> > Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
> > yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
> > Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
> > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> >
> > Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
> > Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
> > aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
> > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> >
> > Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
> > avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
> > aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
> > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> >
> > Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
> > kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
> > tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
> > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."
> >
> > ----------
> > (We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)
> We are respectful of Native American heritage and are learning Wendat. We know that Ash speaks that, along with 200 other languages, so we will be able to communicate secretly (for the most part) about his weapons and plans..

George Dance continues to try to steal our finds--and this time from Native American heritage!

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by: NancyGene - Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:00 UTC

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 1:33:20 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:14:03 PM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:57:18 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > "Huron Carol"
> > > St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron
> > >
> > > "Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
> > > Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
> > > Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
> > > Jesus, he is born
> > > They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
> > > They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
> > > Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
> > > Jesus, he is born
> > > Three have left for such, those who are elders
> > > Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
> > > He will seize the path, he who leads them there
> > > Jesus, he is born
> > > As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
> > > the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
> > > Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
> > > Jesus, he is born
> > > Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
> > > They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
> > > They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
> > > Jesus, he is born
> > > "We will give to him praise for his name,
> > > Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us.
> > > It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
> > > Jesus, he is born."
> > > ----------
> > >
> > > Huron/Wendat Language:
> > >
> > > "Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
> > > O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
> > > ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
> > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > >
> > > Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
> > > yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
> > > Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
> > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > >
> > > Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
> > > Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
> > > aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
> > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > >
> > > Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
> > > avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
> > > aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
> > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > >
> > > Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
> > > kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
> > > tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
> > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > (We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)
> > We are respectful of Native American heritage and are learning Wendat. We know that Ash speaks that, along with 200 other languages, so we will be able to communicate secretly (for the most part) about his weapons and plans.
> George Dance continues to try to steal our finds--and this time from Native American heritage!

To illustrate how non-ethnic considerate George Dance is, he yells "Geronimo" when he jumps onto the top of the sheets on his bed. That is him playing "Cowboys and Indians," but it doesn't make up for having his ass scalped when he was Little Boy George. He has Manifest Destiny problems and always identified with General Custer.

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by: NancyGene - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 20:49 UTC

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 3:00:31 AM UTC+2, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 1:33:20 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:14:03 PM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:57:18 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > "Huron Carol"
> > > > St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron
> > > >
> > > > "Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
> > > > Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
> > > > Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
> > > > They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
> > > > Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > Three have left for such, those who are elders
> > > > Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
> > > > He will seize the path, he who leads them there
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
> > > > the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
> > > > Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
> > > > They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
> > > > They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > "We will give to him praise for his name,
> > > > Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us..
> > > > It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
> > > > Jesus, he is born."
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > Huron/Wendat Language:
> > > >
> > > > "Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
> > > > O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
> > > > ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
> > > > yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
> > > > Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
> > > > Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
> > > > aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
> > > > avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
> > > > aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
> > > > kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
> > > > tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > (We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)
> > > We are respectful of Native American heritage and are learning Wendat.. We know that Ash speaks that, along with 200 other languages, so we will be able to communicate secretly (for the most part) about his weapons and plans.
> > George Dance continues to try to steal our finds--and this time from Native American heritage!
> To illustrate how non-ethnic considerate George Dance is, he yells "Geronimo" when he jumps onto the top of the sheets on his bed. That is him playing "Cowboys and Indians," but it doesn't make up for having his ass scalped when he was Little Boy George. He has Manifest Destiny problems and always identified with General Custer.

We have been to Lake Huron. Has George Dance? No, but he will claim that he was there before us.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 15:06 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 8:00:31 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 1:33:20 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:14:03 PM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:57:18 AM UTC+4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > "Huron Carol"
> > > > St. Jean de Brébeuf (1642), Fr. de Villeneuve, Jesse Edgar Middleton (1926), John Steckley/Teondecheron
> > > >
> > > > "Have courage, you who are humans; Jesus, he is born
> > > > Behold, the spirit who had us as prisoners has fled
> > > > Do not listen to it, as it corrupts the spirits of our minds
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > They are spirits, sky people, coming with a message for us
> > > > They are coming to say, "Rejoice (Be on top of life)"
> > > > Marie, she has just given birth. Rejoice"
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > Three have left for such, those who are elders
> > > > Tichion, a star that has just appeared on the horizon leads them there
> > > > He will seize the path, he who leads them there
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > As they arrived there, where he was born, Jesus
> > > > the star was at the point of stopping, not far past it
> > > > Having found someone for them, he says, "Come here!"
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > Behold, they have arrived there and have seen Jesus,
> > > > They praised (made a name) many times, sahying "Hurray, he is good in nature"
> > > > They greeted him with reverence (greased his scalp many times), saying 'Hurray'
> > > > Jesus, he is born
> > > > "We will give to him praise for his name,
> > > > Let us show reverence for him as he comes to be compassionate to us..
> > > > It is providential that you love us and wish, 'I should adopt them.'
> > > > Jesus, he is born."
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > Huron/Wendat Language:
> > > >
> > > > "Ehstehn yayau deh tsaun we yisus ahattonnia
> > > > O na wateh wado:kwi nonnwa 'ndasqua entai
> > > > ehnau sherskwa trivota nonnwa 'ndi yaun rashata
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Ayoki onki hm-ashe eran yayeh raunnaun
> > > > yauntaun kanntatya hm-deh 'ndyaun sehnsatoa ronnyaun
> > > > Waria hnawakweh tond Yosehf sataunn haronnyaun
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Asheh kaunnta horraskwa deh ha tirri gwames
> > > > Tishyaun ayau ha'ndeh ta aun hwa ashya a ha trreh
> > > > aundata:kwa Tishyaun yayaun yaun n-dehta
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Dau yishyeh sta atyaun errdautau 'ndi Yisus
> > > > avwa tateh dn-deh Tishyaun stanshi teya wennyau
> > > > aha yaunna torrehntehn yataun katsyaun skehnn
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia.
> > > >
> > > > Eyeh kwata tehnaunnte aheh kwashyehn ayehn
> > > > kiyeh kwanaun aukwayaun dehtsaun we 'ndeh adeh
> > > > tarrya diskwann aunkwe yishyehr eya ke naun sta
> > > > Iesus Ahattonnia, Ahattonnia, Iesus Ahattonnia."
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > (We would give URLs to our sources, but are afraid someone will steal our research.)
> > > We are respectful of Native American heritage and are learning Wendat.. We know that Ash speaks that, along with 200 other languages, so we will be able to communicate secretly (for the most part) about his weapons and plans.
> > George Dance continues to try to steal our finds--and this time from Native American heritage!
> To illustrate how non-ethnic considerate George Dance is, he yells "Geronimo" when he jumps onto the top of the sheets on his bed. That is him playing "Cowboys and Indians," but it doesn't make up for having his ass scalped when he was Little Boy George. He has Manifest Destiny problems and always identified with General Custer.
>

Custer was actually one of my boyhood heroes. I've got a Marx action figure Custer who often joins me for my late night drinking sessions.

"We ride ... to hell. Or to glory. It depends on your point of view."
-- George Armstrong Custer*

*Actually Errol Flynn portraying Custer in "They Died With Their Boots On."

Subject	Author
"Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the Wendat language	NancyGene
Re: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the	NancyGene
Re: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the	NancyGene
Re: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the	NancyGene
Re: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the	NancyGene
Re: "Huron Carol" original lyrics (English translation and in the	Michael Pendragon