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by: Terry Stomp - Wed, 7 Jul 2021 22:01 UTC

On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > Heat, by H.D.
> >
> > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > cut apart the heat,
> > rend it to tatters.
> > [...]
> >
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
>
> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> Versers".
>
> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
>
> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
>
> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> beyond...
>
> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
>
> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>
> Richard Aldington
> Amy Lowell
> Vacel Lindsay
> Harry Kemp
> Donald Evans
> Allen Norton
> Louise Norton
> H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> Mina Loy
> William Carlos Williams
> Alfred Kreymborg
> Ezra Pound
>
> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
>
> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

Right on...

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by: Will Dockery - Sun, 22 Aug 2021 03:59 UTC

On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
> On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > >
> > > Heat, by H.D.
> > >
> > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > cut apart the heat,
> > > rend it to tatters.
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> >
> > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > Versers".
> >
> > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> >
> > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> >
> > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > beyond...
> >
> > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> >
> > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> >
> > Richard Aldington
> > Amy Lowell
> > Vacel Lindsay
> > Harry Kemp
> > Donald Evans
> > Allen Norton
> > Louise Norton
> > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > Mina Loy
> > William Carlos Williams
> > Alfred Kreymborg
> > Ezra Pound
> >
> > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> >
> > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>
> Right on...

Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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by: Terry Stomp - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 20:35 UTC

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heat, by H.D.
> > > >
> > > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > > cut apart the heat,
> > > > rend it to tatters.
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> > >
> > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > Versers".
> > >
> > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > >
> > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > >
> > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > beyond...
> > >
> > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > >
> > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > >
> > > Richard Aldington
> > > Amy Lowell
> > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > Harry Kemp
> > > Donald Evans
> > > Allen Norton
> > > Louise Norton
> > > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > Mina Loy
> > > William Carlos Williams
> > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > Ezra Pound
> > >
> > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > >
> > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> >
> > Right on...
> Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Indeed.... so sorry....

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by: George J. Dance - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 00:15 UTC

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, fake "Will Dokery" wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heat, by H.D.
> > > >
> > > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > > cut apart the heat,
> > > > rend it to tatters.
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> > >
> > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > Versers".
> > >
> > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > >
> > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > >
> > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > beyond...
> > >
> > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > >
> > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > >
> > > Richard Aldington
> > > Amy Lowell
> > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > Harry Kemp
> > > Donald Evans
> > > Allen Norton
> > > Louise Norton
> > > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > Mina Loy
> > > William Carlos Williams
> > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > Ezra Pound
> > >
> > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > >
> > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> >
> > Right on...

> Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda

Wrong.

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by: George J. Dance - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 00:18 UTC

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 4:35:59 PM UTC-4, tst...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Heat, by H.D.
> > > > >
> > > > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > > > cut apart the heat,
> > > > > rend it to tatters.
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > > > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> > > >
> > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > Versers".
> > > >
> > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > >
> > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > beyond...
> > > >
> > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > >
> > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > >
> > > > Richard Aldington
> > > > Amy Lowell
> > > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > > Harry Kemp
> > > > Donald Evans
> > > > Allen Norton
> > > > Louise Norton
> > > > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > Mina Loy
> > > > William Carlos Williams
> > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > Ezra Pound
> > > >
> > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > >
> > > Right on...
> > Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Indeed.... so sorry....

Don't be. H.D.'s first name was Hilda.

"Hilary" isn't even a woman's name.

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by: Paul Vicious - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 22:02 UTC

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, fake "Will Dokery" wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Heat, by H.D.
> > > > >
> > > > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > > > cut apart the heat,
> > > > > rend it to tatters.
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > > > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> > > >
> > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > Versers".
> > > >
> > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > >
> > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > beyond...
> > > >
> > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > >
> > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > >
> > > > Richard Aldington
> > > > Amy Lowell
> > > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > > Harry Kemp
> > > > Donald Evans
> > > > Allen Norton
> > > > Louise Norton
> > > > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > Mina Loy
> > > > William Carlos Williams
> > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > Ezra Pound
> > > >
> > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > >
> > > Right on...
>
> > Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda
> Wrong.

Wow, Doc got it backwards....!

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Sorry, I don't know how I got the names turned around.

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On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:50:58 PM UTC-4, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > > > > > Heat, by H.D.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O wind, rend open the heat,
> > > > > > cut apart the heat,
> > > > > > rend it to tatters.
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
> > > > > Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > Versers".
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > >
> > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > beyond...
> > > > >
> > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Aldington
> > > > > Amy Lowell
> > > > > Vacel Lindsay
> > > > > Harry Kemp
> > > > > Donald Evans
> > > > > Allen Norton
> > > > > Louise Norton
> > > > > H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > Mina Loy
> > > > > William Carlos Williams
> > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > Ezra Pound
> > > > >
> > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > >
> > > > Right on...
> >
> > > Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda
> > Wrong.
> Sorry, I don't know how I got the names turned around.

No problem Doc we all have senior moments in out old age...

Subject	Author
H.D. poetry	Terry Stomp
Re: H.D. poetry	Will Dockery
Re: H.D. poetry	Terry Stomp
Re: H.D. poetry	George J. Dance
Re: H.D. poetry	George J. Dance
Re: H.D. poetry	Paul Vicious
Re: H.D. poetry	Will Dockery
Re: H.D. poetry	Paul Vicious

As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong?

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