Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ***********************
> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> >> >> > *************************************************
> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> >> >
> >> > Yep...
> >
> >> I know, right?
> >>
> >> :)
> >
> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?

Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.

HTH and HAND.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 4:14:59 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ***********************
> > >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D. Snodgrass.
> > >> >> > *************************************************
> > >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > >> >
> > >> > Yep...
> > >
> > >> I know, right?
> > >>
> > >> :)
> > >
> > > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
>
> HTH and HAND.

it's really not a style or a form, it's more about content, and self-explanatory, isn't it? (asking the experts...)

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:19:09 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 4:14:59 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Zod wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > ***********************
> > > >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D. Snodgrass.
> > > >> >> > *************************************************
> > > >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Yep...
> > > >
> > > >> I know, right?
> > > >>
> > > >> :)
> > > >
> > > > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> it's really not a style or a form, it's more about content, and self-explanatory, isn't it? (asking the experts...)

Exactly, "confessional" poetry.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:14:59 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ***********************
> > >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D. Snodgrass.
> > >> >> > *************************************************
> > >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > >> >
> > >> > Yep...
> > >
> > >> I know, right?
> > >>
> > >> :)
> > >
> > > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.

LOL!

So you don't like confessional poetry -- you just like your own swill.

Whodda thunk?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:28:55 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:14:59 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Zod wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > ***********************
> > > >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D. Snodgrass.
> > > >> >> > *************************************************
> > > >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Yep...
> > > >
> > > >> I know, right?
> > > >>
> > > >> :)
> > > >
> > > > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> LOL!
>
> So you don't like confessional poetry

No, I like quite a few confessional poets, Allen Ginsberg, John Berryman and Frank O'Hara to name three.

HTH and HAND.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:45:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:28:55 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:14:59 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Zod wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > ***********************
> > > > >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D. Snodgrass.
> > > > >> >> > *************************************************
> > > > >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Yep...
> > > > >
> > > > >> I know, right?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> :)
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> > LOL!
> >
> > So you don't like confessional poetry
> No, I like quite a few confessional poets, Allen Ginsberg, John Berryman and Frank O'Hara to name three.

Again, what do you like and/or dislike about "Confessional Poetry?"

What "results" do you like about your "confessional" poems? What "results" do you like about Ginsberg's, Berryman's and O'Hara's?

"Beat poetry is at its core anti- conformist and counter-culture. The beat poets protested the conservatism of post- war society and stood for social change. The confessional school produced personal poetry, describing the psychological plight of the poet." (Steinberg-Zwirek).

How is your (cough!) poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?

Michael Pendragon wrote:

>

> How is your
> poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?

In my opinion my poetry contains both of those elements to a certain degree.

:)

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:45:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > How is your
> > poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?
> In my opinion my poetry contains both of those elements to a certain degree.
>
> :)

Certainly most can see the Beat influence and the confessional elements in your poems, Doc...

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:58:12 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:45:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > How is your
> > > poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?
> > In my opinion my poetry contains both of those elements to a certain degree.
> >
> > :)
> Certainly most can see the Beat influence and the confessional elements in your poems, Doc...

Thanks, Faraway Star, and I think there are many examples in my collected poetry that are examples of this:

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:45:20 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> >
>
> > How is your
> > poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?
> In my opinion my poetry contains both of those elements to a certain degree.

Could you point those out and discuss them?

Do both these elements appear within the same poem? How do they interact?

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:58:12 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:45:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > > How is your
>> > > poetry considered "Beat" or "Confessional"?
>> > In my opinion my poetry contains both of those elements to a certain degree.
>> >
>> > :)
>> Certainly most can see the Beat influence and the confessional elements in your poems, Doc...

> Thanks, Faraway Star, and I think there are many examples in my collected poetry that are examples of this:

> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

Some good work there, Doc... kudos...

Will Dockery wrote:

> Hieronymous Corey wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ***********************
>> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep...
>> >
>> >> I know, right?
>> >>
>> >> :)
>> >
>> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?

> Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.

> HTH and HAND.

Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Zod wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ***********************
> >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W.. D.. Snodgrass.
> >> >> >> > *************************************************
> >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yep...
> >> >
> >> >> I know, right?
> >> >>
> >> >> :)
> >> >
> >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
>
> > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
>
> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html

Are you capable of explaining *how* it is an example of both?

If so, please assume that said "style" is not self-evident and explain it.

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>> Zod wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > ***********************
> > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> > >> >> >> > *************************************************
> > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Yep...
> > >> >
> > >> >> I know, right?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> :)
> > >> >
> > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> >
> > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
> >
> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
> Are you capable of explaining *how*

He doesn't need to, his comment was sufficient.

HTH and HAND.

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > > >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >>> Zod wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Yep...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I know, right?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > >
> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
> > >
> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
> > Are you capable of explaining *how*
> He doesn't need to, his comment was sufficient.

If his comment had been sufficient, I would not still require clarification..

As per usual, you seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that liking something equates to having been influenced by it.

IMHO your poetry bears little resemblance to that of the Beats and/or the Confessional Poets. The Beats were (mostly) literate, and their poetry often carried a social/philosophical/political message; and there is nothing confessional in your glorified retelling of various non-events in your life. Your poetry can best be described as Fragmentism (explained in several earlier posts). Zod's poetry is Fragmentist as well.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
>
>> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
>> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
>> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
>> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Yep...
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> I know, right?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> :)
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
>> > >
>> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
>> > >
>> > > > HTH and HAND.
>> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
>
> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
>

> If his comment had been sufficient

In my opinion it is, and the poem itself is an example.

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Yep...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I know, right?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > >
> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
> > >
> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
> > Are you capable of explaining *how*
> He doesn't need to, his comment was sufficient.
>
> HTH and HAND.

I agree, in this case...

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:05:11 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> >
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> >
> >> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
> >> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> >> > > >> >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> >> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
> >> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Yep...
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> I know, right?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> :)
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> >> > >
> >> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> >> > >
> >> > > > HTH and HAND.
> >> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
> >
> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
> >
> > If his comment had been sufficient
> In my opinion it is, and the poem itself is an example.

IOW: you are unable to support your position.

I have read "The Sensitive One," and it is an unintelligible mess. It has no apparent meaning, much less a message, and is not even remotely confessional (as the speaker/protagonist comes across as an insensitive, bombastic, self-aggrandizing douchebag). No offense if he's intended to be at all autobiographical.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:05:11 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>> >
>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
>> >
>> >> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
>> >> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
>> >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
>> >> > > >> >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
>> >> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> > Yep...
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >> I know, right?
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> :)
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > HTH and HAND.
>> >> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
>> >
>> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
>> >
>> > If his comment had been sufficient
>> In my opinion it is, and the poem itself is an example.

>

> I have read "The Sensitive One," and it is an unintelligible

Sorry it went over your head, Pendragon.

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Yep...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I know, right?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
> > >
> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
> > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
> > >
> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
> > Are you capable of explaining *how*
> He doesn't need to, his comment was sufficient.
>
> HTH and HAND.

I agree...!

Faraway Star wrote:

> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:05:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > ***********************
>> > > >> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s..[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
>> > > >> >> >> > *************************************************
>> > > >> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Yep...
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> I know, right?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> :)
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?
>> > >
>> > > > Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.
>> > >
>> > > > HTH and HAND.
>> > > Yer poem Sensitive One is a good example of both:
>> > >
>> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/sensitive-one.html
>> > Are you capable of explaining *how*
>> He doesn't need to, his comment was sufficient.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> I agree...!

Good afternoon, my friend.

Will Dockery wrote:

> Hieronymous Corey wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:10:33 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessional_poetry
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ***********************
>> >> >> > Confessional poetry or "Confessionalism" is a style of poetry that emerged in the United States during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1] It is sometimes also classified as a form of Postmodernism.[2] It has been described as poetry of the personal or "I", focusing on extreme moments of individual experience, the psyche, and personal trauma, including previously and occasionally still taboo matters such as mental illness, sexuality, and suicide, often set in relation to broader social themes.[3]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The confessional poet's engagement with personal experience has been explained by literary critics as an effort to distance oneself from the horrifying social realities of the twentieth century. Events like the Holocaust, the Cold War, and existential threat brought by the proliferation of nuclear weapons had made public matters daunting for both confessional poets and their readers.[4] The confessional poets also worked in opposition to the idealization of domesticity in the 1950s, by revealing unhappiness in their own homes.[5]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The school of "confessional poetry" was associated with several poets who redefined American poetry in the 1950s and 1960s, including Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, Allen Ginsberg, and W. D.. Snodgrass.
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >> Good article, Zod, thus should help bring folks up to speed on what confessional poetry is.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep...
>> >
>> >> I know, right?
>> >>
>> >> :)
>> >
>> > What do you like, or dislike, about that style of poetry?

> Like I said, since I use the style in many of my poems, I like the results using it gets me.

> HTH and HAND.

Well put again, Doc..!