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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 05:29 UTC

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:00:55 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:22:16 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > General-Zod wrote:
> >
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > >> General-Zod wrote:
> > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >>> > Zod served his country in the Navy.
> > >>>
> > >>> > Agreed?
> > >>>
> > >>> I absolutely did, four years in the regular Navy and a year and a half in the Reserves...
> >
> > >> I know this for a fact.
> >
> > > I thank you for setting record straight...!
> >
> > > Case closed...
> > It should be by now.
> If you want to close it with a total lack of evidence, that's up to you.
>
> Lacking any evidence

Do you have any evidence that proves that you were in the Navy?

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 06:10 UTC

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:29:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:00:55 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:22:16 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > General-Zod wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > >> General-Zod wrote:
> > > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> > Zod served his country in the Navy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Agreed?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I absolutely did, four years in the regular Navy and a year and a half in the Reserves...
> > >
> > > >> I know this for a fact.
> > >
> > > > I thank you for setting record straight...!
> > >
> > > > Case closed...
> > > It should be by now.
> > If you want to close it with a total lack of evidence, that's up to you..
> >
> > Lacking any evidence
> Do you have any evidence that proves that you were in the Navy?

Yes, I do. Photos, and Discharge Papers.

But I have no need to prove that I was ever in the Navy. I'm here as a poet and small press publisher. I can provide links to my publications/publication history, and my poetry speaks for itself.

Michael Pendragon
"It is my retirement....... Nothing more or less................ "
-- George "Stink" Sulzbach, career pissbum
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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 09:42 UTC

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:10:36 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:29:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:00:55 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:22:16 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > >>> > Zod served his country in the Navy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Agreed?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I absolutely did, four years in the regular Navy and a year and a half in the Reserves...
> > > >
> > > > >> I know this for a fact.
> > > >
> > > > > I thank you for setting record straight...!
> > > >
> > > > > Case closed...
> > > > It should be by now.
> > > If you want to close it with a total lack of evidence, that's up to you.
> > >
> > > Lacking any evidence
> > Do you have any evidence that proves that you were in the Navy?
> Yes, I do. Photos, and Discharge Papers

Did you post proof of that here already!

😃

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 by: General-Zod - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 20:49 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
> Faraway Star wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> Wrong again, Pendragon.
> >>
> >> I had plenty to say about John Berryman and his poetry:
> >> > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
> >> > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
> >> > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
> >> > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
> >> > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
> >> > > > means you have no
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
> >> > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
> >> > > > Peoples bore me,
> >> > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
> >> > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
> >> > > > as bad as achilles,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
> >> > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
> >> > > > and somehow a dog
> >> > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
> >> > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
> >> > > > behind: me, wag.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *John Berryman*
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
> >> > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
> >> > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
> >> >
> >> > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
> >> >
> >> > This is interesting (to me, at least).
> >> >
> >> > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
> >> >
> >> > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
> >> >
> >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
> >> >
> >> > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
> >> >
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
> >> >
> >> > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > Good read...!
> Again, agreed.

Hi Doc, quite rightly..!

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:05 UTC

Faraway Star wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>> >> > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>> >> > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>> >> > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>> >> > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>> >> > > > means you have no
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>> >> > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>> >> > > > Peoples bore me,
>> >> > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>> >> > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>> >> > > > as bad as achilles,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>> >> > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>> >> > > > and somehow a dog
>> >> > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>> >> > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>> >> > > > behind: me, wag.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > *John Berryman*
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>> >> > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>> >> > >
>> >> > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>> >> > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>> >> >
>> >> > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>> >> >
>> >> > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>> >> >
>> >> > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>> >> >
>> >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>> >> >
>> >> > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>> >> >
>> >> > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>

> Hi Doc, quite rightly..!

Good evening my friend.

🙂

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:15 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Faraway Star wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> Wrong again, Pendragon.
>> >>
>> >> I had plenty to say about John Berryman and his poetry:
>> >> > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>> >> > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>> >> > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>> >> > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>> >> > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>> >> > > > means you have no
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>> >> > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>> >> > > > Peoples bore me,
>> >> > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>> >> > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>> >> > > > as bad as achilles,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>> >> > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>> >> > > > and somehow a dog
>> >> > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>> >> > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>> >> > > > behind: me, wag.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > *John Berryman*
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>> >> > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>> >> > >
>> >> > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>> >> > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>> >> >
>> >> > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>> >> >
>> >> > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>> >> >
>> >> > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>> >> >
>> >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>> >> >
>> >> > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>> >> >
>> >> > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> > Good read...!
>> Again, agreed.

> Hi Doc, quite rightly..!

Good morning my friend, remember to try to skip and ignore the malicious attack and stalker posts by the trolls NancyGene and Pendragon, if possible.

HTH and HAND.

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Subject: Re: Dream Song 14
From: tzod9...@gmail.com (General-Zod)
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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:58 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>> >> > > > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>>> >> > > > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>>> >> > > > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>>> >> > > > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>>> >> > > > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>>> >> > > > means you have no
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>>> >> > > > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>>> >> > > > Peoples bore me,
>>> >> > > > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>>> >> > > > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>>> >> > > > as bad as achilles,
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>>> >> > > > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>>> >> > > > and somehow a dog
>>> >> > > > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>>> >> > > > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>>> >> > > > behind: me, wag.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > *John Berryman*
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > --
>>> >> > > > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>>> >> > > > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>>> >> > John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is interesting (to me, at least).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was really insightful and thus a good help.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>>> >> >
>>> >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>>> >> >
>>> >> > About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>>> >> >
>>> >> > John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.

Good back story on one of my very fave poets...

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