Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
>> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > George Dance wrote...
>> > >
>> > > > > >February
>> > >
>> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> > >
>> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > >
>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > >
>> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
>> > > > perspective.
>> > >
>> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
>> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
>> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
>> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
>> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
>> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
>> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
>> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
>> > collage":
>> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
>> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
>> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
>> > happen
>> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
>> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
>> > ubiquity
>> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
>> > has
>> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
>> > quiet
>> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
>> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
>> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
>> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
>> > explicitly.
>> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
>> > > each repeated three times.
>> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
>> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
>> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
>> > > villanelle.
>> > >
>> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
>> > > they'd work together:
>> > >
>> > > Ever after
>> > > They come,
>> > > she says:
>> > >
>> > > “They come,”
>> > > she says.
>> > > Ever after,
>> > >
>> > > she says:
>> > > “Ever after,
>> > > They come.”
>> > >
>> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
>> > Not bad, not bad at all.
>> > --
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
>> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
>> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
>> > Video by Doug Cole.

> idiocy

Your admission is noted.

🙂

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:41:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >February
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> >> > >
> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > >
> >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> >> > >
> >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> >> > > > perspective.
> >> > >
> >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> >> > collage":
> >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> >> > happen
> >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> >> > ubiquity
> >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> >> > has
> >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> >> > quiet
> >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> >> > explicitly.
> >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> >> > > each repeated three times.
> >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> >> > > villanelle.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> >> > > they'd work together:
> >> > >
> >> > > Ever after
> >> > > They come,
> >> > > she says:
> >> > >
> >> > > “They come,”
> >> > > she says.
> >> > > Ever after,
> >> > >
> >> > > she says:
> >> > > “Ever after,
> >> > > They come.”
> >> > >
> >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
> >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> > idiocy
>
> Your admission is noted.

I admit that you're an idiot, Donkey.

I know you may think it discourteous of me to say so, but based on my past exchanges with you, I consider it a compliment.

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:48:43 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:41:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 4:21:39 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 10:22:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > On Feb 11, 9:58 pm, George Dance wrote:
> > >> > > On Feb 11, 6:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > George Dance wrote...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >February
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
> > >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
> > >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
> > >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
> > >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Nice work, I like the way the repetition of phrases shifts the
> > >> > > > perspective.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Well, I only wrote the first three lines; the rest of that's either
> > >> > > Sherman or Rogers fucking with my lines.
> > >> > Well, you wrote all three lines, so I don't see any way anyone else
> > >> > could get away with claiming they wrote them... all three would be
> > >> > yours in any combination, and either Karla or GB would get a credit
> > >> > for /arranging/ the lines, at best.
> > >> Again, my point, clearly stated ^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> > In fact, I thought of commenting to GB's post that he was really
> > >> > following through on Dale Houstman's "post-art world of plagiarism &
> > >> > collage":
> > >> > "...There are some reasons to believe that we are already living in a
> > >> > "post-art" world, in which all work produced is merely collage and
> > >> > plagiarism, comments on art rather than art itself. And it didn't
> > >> > happen
> > >> > because "scientists 'explained' art" (whatever that could mean), but
> > >> > because the surrounding culture, driven by mere Sensation, the
> > >> > ubiquity
> > >> > of entertainment, and the "hive-mind" radiated by TV and the like,
> > >> > has
> > >> > become less a viable habitat for individual expression and for the
> > >> > quiet
> > >> > and timeless interstices in which imagination finds its outlet..."
> > >> > Anyway, the point of this post was to make it clear that GB didn't
> > >> > write those lines, and the ones that followed used quite a bit of what
> > >> > could be called "collage", though I didn't bother to get into all that
> > >> > explicitly.
> > >> My point, again, is very clear ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> > > But it is an interesting form, isn't it? A 9-line poem with 3 lines
> > >> > > each repeated three times.
> > >> > Yes, and would work well for lyrics, also.
> > >> > > It would be hard to find lines strong enough to hold up all the way
> > >> > > through; or flexible enough to change in meaning as in a triolet or
> > >> > > villanelle.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I just tried writing one, using the first three lines that looked like
> > >> > > they'd work together:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ever after
> > >> > > They come,
> > >> > > she says:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > “They come,”
> > >> > > she says.
> > >> > > Ever after,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > she says:
> > >> > > “Ever after,
> > >> > > They come.”
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I might try writing a poem that way, but not poor "February."> --
> > >> > Not bad, not bad at all.
> > >> > --
> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
> > >> > Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
> > >> > "Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
> > >> > Video by Doug Cole.
> > > idiocy
> >
> > Your admission is noted.
> I admit

I saw that.

🙂

George Dance wrote...
>
>>> > > > > >February
>>> > >
>>> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>>> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>>> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>>> > >
>>> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>>> > >
>>> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>>> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>>> > > > > ocean waves in winter

Again...... good read......

George Dance wrote...
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > > >February
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > > >Unnoticed dreams:
>> > >> > > > > >ocean waves in winter,
>> > >> > > > > >the curve of your cheek.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > > ocean waves in winter
>> > >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > > the curve of your cheek
>> > >> > > > > Unnoticed dreams
>> > >> > > > > ocean waves in winter

PING G.D.

Can you see this..?

Is JLA posting it...?

So far I do not use JLA...