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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE

Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their 1950s PEGGY SUE style.

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 by: Mark D. - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:04 UTC

On Apr 28, 2022 at 5:10:31 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE
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> Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their
> 1950s PEGGY SUE style.

"Done on the style of" is an awfully kind way of putting it.

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 by: Roger Ford - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:22 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:04:48 -0500, Mark D. <mdintenfass@xxnew.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 28, 2022 at 5:10:31 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE
>>
>> Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their
>> 1950s PEGGY SUE style.
>
>"Done on the style of" is an awfully kind way of putting it.
>
This is the last really good post-Holly Crickets single IMO and I'd
certainly have voted for it where possible were it eligible .

And llikewise for the similarly styled "Teardrops Fall Like Ran"
flipside

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:57 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:04:54 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2022 at 5:10:31 PM CDT, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE
> >
> > Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their
> > 1950s PEGGY SUE style.
> "Done on the style of" is an awfully kind way of putting it.

Not according to Roger and me. Roger called it "really good" which I am guessing would be a 7 or maybe an 8. I've only got an 8 for "Peggy Sue" and I like the flip side better, a higher 8.

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 by: Roger Ford - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 04:09 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:04:54 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 2022 at 5:10:31 PM CDT, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE
>> >
>> > Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their
>> > 1950s PEGGY SUE style.
>> "Done on the style of" is an awfully kind way of putting it.
>
>Not according to Roger and me. Roger called it "really good" which I am guessing would be a 7 or maybe an 8. I've only got an 8 for "Peggy Sue" and I like the flip side better, a higher 8.

Both sides = 7

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 by: Roger Ford - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:58 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 04:09:45 GMT, mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
Ford) wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:04:54 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
>>> On Apr 28, 2022 at 5:10:31 PM CDT, "Bruce" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEXLOiwXeE
>>> >
>>> > Was gonna put this in for June, but it won a battle in 1963. Done in their
>>> > 1950s PEGGY SUE style.
>>> "Done on the style of" is an awfully kind way of putting it.
>>
>>Not according to Roger and me. Roger called it "really good" which I am guessing would be a 7 or maybe an 8. I've only got an 8 for "Peggy Sue" and I like the flip side better, a higher 8.
>
>Both sides = 7
>
Here's both songs as featured in the 1963 movie "Just For Fun"

"My Little Girl"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w10t8kOtiA

"Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY

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 by: RWC - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:51 UTC

>
>"Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY
>
Has a tame cuteness like Herman Hermits' "No Milk Today",
"I'm In For Something Good"...

For me, this same period Crickets recording is marginally better than
both sides:

The Crickets - When You Ask About Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3DAXmr3fL4

Here are Herman Hermits from their pre-tame period:

"Fortune Teller" - live at the Beatle-famous Cavern Club - 1963
(which means Peter Noone, aka 'Herman', was just 15-16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK3G3nfdDP8

this should be interesting/entertaining/informative for any fan of the
Brit beat sound (says a lot about Cavern Club artists and audiences):

Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits reflects on his beginnings in the
Cavern Club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5MPLneSeQ 6:00

Peter Noone (b. Nov 5, 1947 in Manchester) - Debby Campbell Goodtime
Show Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8rytzun54 58:00
"14 gold singles, 7 gold albums, Cash Box Entertainer Of The Year 2
times"...

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 20:13 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
> >
> >"Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY
> >
> Has a tame cuteness like Herman Hermits' "No Milk Today",
> "I'm In For Something Good"...

I've always thought that HH sounded like a more popish Buddy Holly / Crickets. That's why I am so mystified by Roger's intense hate for the Hermits. The first time I heard "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" on the radio in like 1972 I thought it was Buddy Holly. I really can't figure out why he likes "Teardrops Fall Like Rain" but hates all the Hermits stuff. I wonder if he would have liked "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" if the first time he heard it he thought it was a new Crickets release.

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 by: DianeE - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:09 UTC

On 4/29/2022 4:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
>>>
>>> "Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY
>>>
>> Has a tame cuteness like Herman Hermits' "No Milk Today",
>> "I'm In For Something Good"...
>
> I've always thought that HH sounded like a more popish Buddy Holly / Crickets. That's why I am so mystified by Roger's intense hate for the Hermits. The first time I heard "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" on the radio in like 1972 I thought it was Buddy Holly. I really can't figure out why he likes "Teardrops Fall Like Rain" but hates all the Hermits stuff. I wonder if he would have liked "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" if the first time he heard it he thought it was a new Crickets release.
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Raj, do you like Goldie & The Gingerbreads?

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 by: RWC - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 03:06 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:09:11 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>Raj, do you like Goldie & The Gingerbreads?

Good question.

Early 60s racially sensitive Roger might have been okay with the
Crickets (and Gingerbreads?) because they were not local.

I gather Roger did not even like early Beatles releases.

I respect Roger's outlook on early 60s white Brit pop music
- he would likely have been more in tune with American R&B.

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 03:15 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:09:11 -0400, DianeE <Dia...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
> >Raj, do you like Goldie & The Gingerbreads?
> Good question.
>
> Early 60s racially sensitive Roger might have been okay with the
> Crickets (and Gingerbreads?) because they were not local.
>
> I gather Roger did not even like early Beatles releases.
>
> I respect Roger's outlook on early 60s white Brit pop music
> - he would likely have been more in tune with American R&B.

I think he just looked at most all of the white British bands as teeny bopper shit that was beneath him and his record collector buddies. But the thing is he likes plenty of white American acts, including the Four Seasons, who I think are nowhere near as good as any of the major British bands of the mid-60s. I think he even likes Bobby Rydell better than he likes the Kinks, Stones, Animals, Zombies, etc....and maybe even more than he likes the Beatles. So it's not a black/white thing. He's a huge Jerry Lee Lewis fan.

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 by: Roger Ford - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 07:36 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:51:48 -0400, RWC <letsrock@opbox.com> wrote:

>>
>>"Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY
>>
>Has a tame cuteness like Herman Hermits' "No Milk Today",
>"I'm In For Something Good"...
>
You spelt "weakness" wrong

>For me, this same period Crickets recording is marginally better than
>both sides:
>
>The Crickets - When You Ask About Love
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3DAXmr3fL4
>
Hardly "same period" since "When You Ask..." is from 1959 (only months
after Holly's death) and "Teardrops Fall..." is from 1963---a totally
different world with the UK now in the throes of Beatlemania

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
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>On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
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>I've always thought that HH sounded like a more popish Buddy Holly / Cricke=
>ts. That's why I am so mystified by Roger's intense hate for the Hermits.

We've done this dance many times before

And the answer is always the same.....weak,weak,weak

> The first time I heard "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" on the radio in like 19=
>72 I thought it was Buddy Holly.

I heard it first by Goldie & Gingerbreads.

>I really can't figure out why he likes "Teardrops Fall Like Rain" but hates all the Hermits stuff

I alwayts liked this catchy Jerry Allison song and the production

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 by: Roger Ford - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 07:39 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:09:11 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>On 4/29/2022 4:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Teardrops Fall Like Rain"
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tANkkwObY
>>>>
>>> Has a tame cuteness like Herman Hermits' "No Milk Today",
>>> "I'm In For Something Good"...
>>
>> I've always thought that HH sounded like a more popish Buddy Holly / Crickets. That's why I am so mystified by Roger's intense hate for the Hermits. The first time I heard "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" on the radio in like 1972 I thought it was Buddy Holly. I really can't figure out why he likes "Teardrops Fall Like Rain" but hates all the Hermits stuff. I wonder if he would have liked "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" if the first time he heard it he thought it was a new Crickets release.
>>
>---------
>Raj, do you like Goldie & The Gingerbreads?

Not really tho I concede that their "Can't You Hear...." is better
than the HH version but that isn't hard to do.

I'm always amazed tho that Goldie & co were able to get away with such
a blatant steal on their flipside tho

And I was very disappointed with Goldie's earlier performance on The
Escorts' "Somewhere"---a Broadway song I always liked

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 by: Roger Ford - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 07:40 UTC

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:06:30 -0400, RWC <letsrock@opbox.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:09:11 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
>>Raj, do you like Goldie & The Gingerbreads?
>
>Good question.
>
>Early 60s racially sensitive Roger might have been okay with the
>Crickets (and Gingerbreads?) because they were not local.
>
"racially sensitive Roger" .... ha ha that's a good one.

>I gather Roger did not even like early Beatles releases.
>
There were a few that were OK---"Please Please Me" for one

>I respect Roger's outlook on early 60s white Brit pop music
>- he would likely have been more in tune with American R&B.

Right!

Plus as I've explained time without number on here I was too hung up
on 50's rock & roll stuff and old r&b and going back to fill gaping
holes in my record collection to bother with much of the then-current
UK output---most of which I found weak and watery in the extreme

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