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* REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951Bruce
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 `* Re: REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951Bruce
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The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951

https://www.spontaneouslunacy.net/the-clovers-needless-atlantic-944/

YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZL1ojQuq8

SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT: 3/10

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Subject: Re: REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951
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 by: Roger Ford - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:31 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951
>
>
>https://www.spontaneouslunacy.net/the-clovers-needless-atlantic-944/
>
>
>YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZL1ojQuq8
>
>
Here's how thiis flipside did in the 1951 Singles Battle

R1
>6 Billy Briggs - Chew Tobacco Rag - Imperial 8104
>15 The Clovers - Needless - Atlantic 944

R2
>12 Hank Williams - Crazy Heart - M-G-M 11054
>6 The Clovers - Needless - Atlantic 944

.....and in the 2012 Flipsides Battle

R1
> 3 Jimmy Reed -- I Know It's A Sin -- [Down In Virginia] -- 1958
> 5 The Clovers -- Needless -- [Fool, Fool, Fool] -- 1951

R2
> 1 The Clovers -- Needless -- [Fool, Fool, Fool] -- 1951
>13 Elvis Presley -- Just Because -- [Blue Moon] -- 1956

....and finally in the 2014 Vocal Groups Encore Battle

R1
> 4 The El Rays -- Darling I Know -- Checker 794 -- 1954
> 4 The Clovers -- Needless -- Atlantic 944 -- 1951
>
Draw #6.........

El Rays were #152 in 1954
Clovers were #180 in 1951

WINNER : EL RAYS

> >SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT: 3/10

A low 7 in my book

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Re: REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951

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Subject: Re: REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951
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 by: Bruce - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:56 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:31:14 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> wrote:
> >The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951
> >
> >
> >https://www.spontaneouslunacy.net/the-clovers-needless-atlantic-944/
> >
> >
> >YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZL1ojQuq8
> >
> >
> Here's how thiis flipside did in the 1951 Singles Battle
>
> R1
> >6 Billy Briggs - Chew Tobacco Rag - Imperial 8104
> >15 The Clovers - Needless - Atlantic 944
>
> R2
> >12 Hank Williams - Crazy Heart - M-G-M 11054
> >6 The Clovers - Needless - Atlantic 944
>
> ....and in the 2012 Flipsides Battle
>
> R1
> > 3 Jimmy Reed -- I Know It's A Sin -- [Down In Virginia] -- 1958
> > 5 The Clovers -- Needless -- [Fool, Fool, Fool] -- 1951
>
> R2
> > 1 The Clovers -- Needless -- [Fool, Fool, Fool] -- 1951
> >13 Elvis Presley -- Just Because -- [Blue Moon] -- 1956
>
> ...and finally in the 2014 Vocal Groups Encore Battle
>
> R1
> > 4 The El Rays -- Darling I Know -- Checker 794 -- 1954
> > 4 The Clovers -- Needless -- Atlantic 944 -- 1951
> >
> Draw #6.........
>
> El Rays were #152 in 1954
> Clovers were #180 in 1951
>
> WINNER : EL RAYS
>
> > >SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT: 3/10
>
> A low 7 in my book

Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.

Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:35:37 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
> > Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.
> Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?

Read the review.

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:20 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:01:35 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:35:37 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.
> > Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?
> Read the review.

It's just these first two Atlantic ballads.

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:35:37 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
> > Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.
> Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?

We'll know he has a real problem if he similarly rates "Blue Velvet."

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Subject: Re: REVIEW - The Clovers" "Needless" - ATLANTIC 944; AUGUST 1951
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 by: Bruce - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:16 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 5:33:21 AM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:35:37 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.
> > Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?
> We'll know he has a real problem if he similarly rates "Blue Velvet."

No, it's just these first two. He thinks that the group members themselves preferred pop music to the gut bucket R&B That Atlantic wanted them to do, and that's why the first 2 Atlantic singles each had a popish styled ballad on the flip side.

He says that anyone who preferred these 2 ballads to the 2 giant hits is really a pop fan (as in most white people who love these 50s groups) rather than a blues fan, so that's you, Billy.

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On 4/29/2022 11:16 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 5:33:21 AM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:35:37 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> Samp REALLY Needs some Debrox if he's gonna compare this Clovers record to the fucking Ames Brothers, Gaylords and the Hill-fucking-toppers.
>>> Seriously! What is his problem with the Clovers' ballads?
>> We'll know he has a real problem if he similarly rates "Blue Velvet."
>
> No, it's just these first two. He thinks that the group members themselves preferred pop music to the gut bucket R&B That Atlantic wanted them to do, and that's why the first 2 Atlantic singles each had a popish styled ballad on the flip side.
>
> He says that anyone who preferred these 2 ballads to the 2 giant hits is really a pop fan (as in most white people who love these 50s groups) rather than a blues fan, so that's you, Billy.
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Don't forget he also bashed their first record, much to my dismay.

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