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* Pre-1947 Recordings Tournament - May 2022 - Preliminary Round - Group 1Bruce
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Subject: Pre-1947 Recordings Tournament - May 2022 - Preliminary Round - Group 1
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Group 1 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.

There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwPRR2A3DN8

Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch/sYy716zmXcM

Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMpqpTGYRU

Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZkOzc5ckeI

Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlK96kSNt0

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:00 UTC

MY RANKINGS

1. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
2. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
3. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
4. Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
5. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

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 by: Carl - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:03 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 7:56:06 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> Group 1 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
>

1. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
2. Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
3. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
4. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
5. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

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> 1. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt
> 2. Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
> 3. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
> 4. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
> 5. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas

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 by: Rick Schubert - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:07 UTC

On Mon, 2 May 2022 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

>Group 1 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.

1. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
2. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
3. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
4. Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
5. There's A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

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1. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas

2. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn

3. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller

4. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton BrittStone

5. Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:27 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 11:04:18 AM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> > 1. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

Just wondering, do you penalize "The Star Spangled Banner" itself because the guy who wrote the song was a slave owner and the song is bullshit? It was not "The land of the free" if you were not white.

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On Mon, 2 May 2022 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>Group 1 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
>
>
Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
There's A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Mon, 2 May 2022 15:36 UTC

1- Fats Waller

2- Amos Milburn

3- Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Jordan( Music to watch the Depp/Heard trial by, baby!!)

4- Elton Britt( bonus points for the arpeggiotic ukelele!)

5- Henry Thomas( Too damn crude!! Thank you Blind Al Wilson for putting this one firmly on its feet!!)

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 by: Steve Mc - Mon, 2 May 2022 16:14 UTC

On 5/2/2022 8:36 AM, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> 5- Henry Thomas( Too damn crude!! Thank you Blind Al Wilson for putting this one firmly on its feet!!)

And/or perhaps Bob 'The Bear' Hite for probably being the one that knew
of the original.

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 by: Mark D. - Mon, 2 May 2022 17:58 UTC

On May 2, 2022 at 9:56:05 AM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> Group 1 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.

Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn
There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt

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 by: DianeE - Mon, 2 May 2022 18:33 UTC

On 5/2/2022 10:56 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZkOzc5ckeI
------------
I guess Fats Waller wrote this, but I never heard it before. The
version I'm familiar with is by the Andrews Sisters and definitely worth
a listen IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjzr3x3WR4Q

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1-Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn (This record is a 10 for me. Any
time I hear it I have to play it again. Sometimes 3 times.)
2-Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas
3-There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt
4-Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
5-Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan (I was
trying to warn Mark that I pretty much hate this record. Fake calypso
annoys me just as much as real calypso.)

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On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 2:33:17 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 5/2/2022 10:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZkOzc5ckeI
> ------------
> I guess Fats Waller wrote this,

The Andrews Sisters records shows 5 songwriters, but not Waller.

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 by: Rick Schubert - Mon, 2 May 2022 19:13 UTC

On Mon, 2 May 2022 09:14:55 -0700, Steve Mc <stevemc209@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 5/2/2022 8:36 AM, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>> 5- Henry Thomas( Too damn crude!! Thank you Blind Al Wilson for putting this one firmly on its feet!!)
>
>
>And/or perhaps Bob 'The Bear' Hite for probably being the one that knew
>of the original.

I didn't know who Bob 'The Bear' Hite was, but I guessed that he was in Canned Heat. His Wikipedia
article says:

Canned Heat appeared on a November 1969 episode of Playboy After Dark.
....
It was also on this episode that Hite informed Hugh Hefner that he had over 15,000 78s.

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 2 May 2022 19:31 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 3:13:53 PM UTC-4, Rick Schubert wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 09:14:55 -0700, Steve Mc <steve...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On 5/2/2022 8:36 AM, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >> 5- Henry Thomas( Too damn crude!! Thank you Blind Al Wilson for putting this one firmly on its feet!!)
> >
> >
> >And/or perhaps Bob 'The Bear' Hite for probably being the one that knew
> >of the original.
> I didn't know who Bob 'The Bear' Hite was, but I guessed that he was in Canned Heat. His Wikipedia
> article says:
>
> Canned Heat appeared on a November 1969 episode of Playboy After Dark.
> ...
> It was also on this episode that Hite informed Hugh Hefner that he had over 15,000 78s.

I'm shocked that you did not know about Hite. Very famous west coast record collector. Unfortunately many of those 78s were broken in an earthquake out there. They fell right off the shelves. He went looking for records all the time while they were on tours.

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 by: Steve Mc - Mon, 2 May 2022 19:42 UTC

On 5/2/2022 12:13 PM, Rick Schubert wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 09:14:55 -0700, Steve Mc <stevemc209@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2022 8:36 AM, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>>> 5- Henry Thomas( Too damn crude!! Thank you Blind Al Wilson for putting this one firmly on its feet!!)
>>
>>
>> And/or perhaps Bob 'The Bear' Hite for probably being the one that knew
>> of the original.
>
> I didn't know who Bob 'The Bear' Hite was, but I guessed that he was in Canned Heat. His Wikipedia
> article says:
>
> Canned Heat appeared on a November 1969 episode of Playboy After Dark.
> ...
> It was also on this episode that Hite informed Hugh Hefner that he had over 15,000 78s.

Bruce or Roger could probably corroborate this, but he had a massive
(one of the largest ?) record collection, mostly old blues.

--
Steve Mc

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On Mon, 2 May 2022 14:37:41 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>1-Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn (This record is a 10 for me. Any
>time I hear it I have to play it again. Sometimes 3 times.)

>5-Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan (I was
>trying to warn Mark that I pretty much hate this record. Fake calypso
>annoys me *just as much as real calypso*.)
>
Thanks for your comments, Diane (and I thank Dennis for his
Obscurities/Pre-1947 comments over time).

Does this mean you dislike some well-known Harry Belafonte records?

You like American Black Blues but not West Indian Black Calypso?

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 by: Jim Colegrove - Mon, 2 May 2022 22:24 UTC

1. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn

2. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas

3. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller

4. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton BrittStone

5. Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan

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1. Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn - 38
2. Hold Tight (Want Some Seafood Mama) - Fats Waller - 37
3. Bulldoze Blues - Henry Thomas - 30
4. Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan - 26

5. There’s A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere- Elton Britt - 19

As I looked at these 5 items last night I expected an easy win for my Milburn record. But Carl's Seafood Mama was 4 points ahead with 2 ballots remaining. But Diane and Jim each put my record first as it was able to slide ahead of Carl's Waller by one point in the end. Steve's Bulldozer took third and Mark's Ella & Louis goes into the 4th place pool with 26 points. Bill's Banner is not waving anymore after finishing 7 points below 4th place with just 19 points.

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 by: DianeE - Mon, 2 May 2022 23:52 UTC

On 5/2/2022 6:16 PM, RWC wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 14:37:41 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
>> 1-Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn (This record is a 10 for me. Any
>> time I hear it I have to play it again. Sometimes 3 times.)
>
>> 5-Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan (I was
>> trying to warn Mark that I pretty much hate this record. Fake calypso
>> annoys me *just as much as real calypso*.)
>>
> Thanks for your comments, Diane (and I thank Dennis for his
> Obscurities/Pre-1947 comments over time).
>
> Does this mean you dislike some well-known Harry Belafonte records?
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Yes, although the ones I particularly detest are not calypso, namely
"Turn Around" and "Scarlet Ribbons." Sentimental tripe, both of them.
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>
> You like American Black Blues but not West Indian Black Calypso?
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Yes. In general I don't relate to Caribbean music. I don't like
reggae, soca, salsa, bachata, or Cuban music either. With a few
exceptions of course.
I don't hear any musical connection between blues and calypso. In fact,
Bill here likes calypso and dislikes blues.

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On Mon, 2 May 2022 19:52:31 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>On 5/2/2022 6:16 PM, RWC wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 May 2022 14:37:41 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 1-Down The Road Apiece - Amos Milburn (This record is a 10 for me. Any
>>> time I hear it I have to play it again. Sometimes 3 times.)
>>
>>> 5-Stone Cold Dead In The Market - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan (I was
>>> trying to warn Mark that I pretty much hate this record. Fake calypso
>>> annoys me *just as much as real calypso*.)
>>>
>> Thanks for your comments, Diane (and I thank Dennis for his
>> Obscurities/Pre-1947 comments over time).
>>
>> Does this mean you dislike some well-known Harry Belafonte records?
>-----------
>Yes, although the ones I particularly detest are not calypso, namely
>"Turn Around" and "Scarlet Ribbons." Sentimental tripe, both of them.

I always liked his "Scarlet Ribbons" but has to be the original 1952
version with the male chorus

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