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* May Pand on the making of "Happy Christmas"Norbert K
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A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.

"Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."

John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."

Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.

-- from Loving John, by May Pang

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 17:30 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
>
> "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
>
> John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
>
> Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
>
> -- from Loving John, by May Pang

Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.

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Subject: Re: May Pand on the making of "Happy Christmas"
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 by: Norbert K - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 21:02 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> >
> > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> >
> > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> >
> > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> >
> > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.

Profanity is extremely impressive, and Yoko was no doubt striving to set a good example for the young children in that choir -- however, wait! This is a woman who claimed to represent the Japanese aristocracy! She supposedly composed operas and associated with great artists. Yet she spoke like American trailer trash? Something's askew.

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 21:51 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> > >
> > > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> > >
> > > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it.. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> > >
> > > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> > >
> > > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> > Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.
> Profanity is extremely impressive, and Yoko was no doubt striving to set a good example for the young children in that choir -- however, wait! This is a woman who claimed to represent the Japanese aristocracy! She supposedly composed operas and associated with great artists. Yet she spoke like American trailer trash? Something's askew.

Nothing wrong with profanity. Contrary to the usual idea that people are unintelligent if they use a lot of profanity, research shows the opposite. People who use a lot of profanity and use it well are MORE intelligent than those who don't.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

I say kids should be exposed to and taught the proper way to use profanity as young as possible.

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 21:57 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> > >
> > > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> > >
> > > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it.. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> > >
> > > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> > >
> > > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> > Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.
> Profanity is extremely impressive, and Yoko was no doubt striving to set a good example for the young children in that choir -- however, wait! This is a woman who claimed to represent the Japanese aristocracy! She supposedly composed operas and associated with great artists. Yet she spoke like American trailer trash? Something's askew.

Things are different in Japan. They don't have the Victorian attitudes about things that America has. For example, there was a popular TV show in Japan, it may still be on, where women sucked men's cocks and captured the semen in their mouths, and then spit it into a cup or some kind of container. The team that filled up the container first won.

They have another Japanese game show show where the man has to sing karaoke while getting a hand job from the woman. I think whoever can still sing the song the best wins. So they are not worried about somebody saying "fuck" or whatever the Japanese equivalent of "fuck" is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pffJDu-mtE8

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 by: Norbert K - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 11:09 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:02:04 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > > > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> > > >
> > > > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> > > >
> > > > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> > > >
> > > > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> > > >
> > > > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> > > Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.
> > Profanity is extremely impressive, and Yoko was no doubt striving to set a good example for the young children in that choir -- however, wait! This is a woman who claimed to represent the Japanese aristocracy! She supposedly composed operas and associated with great artists. Yet she spoke like American trailer trash? Something's askew.
> Things are different in Japan. They don't have the Victorian attitudes about things that America has. For example, there was a popular TV show in Japan, it may still be on, where women sucked men's cocks and captured the semen in their mouths, and then spit it into a cup or some kind of container. The team that filled up the container first won.
>
> They have another Japanese game show show where the man has to sing karaoke while getting a hand job from the woman. I think whoever can still sing the song the best wins. So they are not worried about somebody saying "fuck" or whatever the Japanese equivalent of "fuck" is.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pffJDu-mtE8

Attitudes towards sex are one thing; use of foul language is another. I've never known a Japanese person who embraced American trailer trash culture the way Yoko did -- which resulted from the fact that in the U.S., Yoko associated mainly with scumbags (con artists, sycophants like Mintz, street musicians like Elephant's Mwmory).

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 by: Emma Smulders - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:32 UTC

Op vrijdag 24 december 2021 om 18:30:47 UTC+1 schreef Bruce:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> >
> > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> >
> > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> >
> > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> >
> > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.

May describes that John told Yoko not to swear in front of (POC) children which made other people visibly upset, and your conclusion of that is that *John* is a cunt? kinda skewed. Ah well.

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On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 9:32:33 AM UTC-5, Emma Smulders wrote:
> Op vrijdag 24 december 2021 om 18:30:47 UTC+1 schreef Bruce:
> > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > > A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
> > >
> > > "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
> > >
> > > John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it.. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
> > >
> > > Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
> > >
> > > -- from Loving John, by May Pang
> > Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.
> May describes that John told Yoko not to swear in front of (POC) children which made other people visibly upset, and your conclusion of that is that *John* is a cunt?

Yup.

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 by: DFS - Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:35 UTC

On 12/24/2021 12:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
>> A less attractive experience [than the Lennons' meeting with Fred Astaire] was the making of "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)," which also occurred at the end of September. The Harlem Baptist Choir, a choir of black children, had recruited to sing on the recording. The kids and their parents gazed respectfully at John and Yoko.
>>
>> "Give me a fucking cigarette," said Yoko. Everyone shuddered. Yoko then and there decided that *fucking* was the only word to describe everything. She talked about the "fucking kids," the "fucking weather," the "fucking musicians," and the "fucking song."
>>
>> John became more and more agitated. He knew it was wrong to use foul language in front of the children -- even for Yoko -- and he didn't like it. Finally, he couldn't stand it any more. "Yoko, cool it!" he shouted. "Just cool it."
>>
>> Yoko clammed up. Muttering, she walked into a corner, resentful that she had not been allowed to do precisely what she wanted to do. She could scarcely believe that John had reprimanded her in public.
>>
>> -- from Loving John, by May Pang
>
> Wow, I like Yoko more now. John was a cunt.

You're a child.

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