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This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.

Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the right guy."

Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.

Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs characterized by simple bass and drum parts?

I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.

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 by: geoff - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 20:24 UTC

On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
> This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
>
> Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the right guy."
>
> Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
>
> Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
>
> I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.

But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !

geoff

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On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 12:24:58 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
> >
> > Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the right guy."

> >
> > Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
> >
> > Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
> >
> > I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.
> But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !
>
> geoff

Newmark no slouch in sophistication either.

I wonder if JL gave the same instructions to Cheap Trick.

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On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
> >
> > Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the right guy."
> >
> > Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
> >
> > Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
> >
> > I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.
> But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !
>
> geoff

Yes, including the one on "Watching the Wheels," which is deliberately McCartneyesque.

Levin was coming off a Peter Gabriel album & tour, and about to join the reformed King Crimson. Is there a style of music he can't play well on the bass? Probably not.

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On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-5, cuppajoe2go wrote:
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 12:24:58 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
> > On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > > This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
> > >
> > > Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the right guy."
>
> > >
> > > Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
> > >
> > > Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
> > >
> > > I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.
> > But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !
> >
> > geoff
> Newmark no slouch in sophistication either.
>
> I wonder if JL gave the same instructions to Cheap Trick.

I don't know, but it sounds like they were all cutting loose a bit on their version of "I'm Losing You." It's too bad *that* group (with Levin on bass) didn't do the whole DF album.

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 by: geoff - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 21:47 UTC

On 28/02/2022 9:24 am, geoff wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
>> This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin
>> appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
>>
>> Levin laughed, and answered:  "Don't worry, John.  You've got the
>> right guy."
>>
>> Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
>>
>> Was this the right approach from Lennon?  Are Lennon's best songs
>> characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
>>
>> I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions.  I speculate that upon
>> beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was
>> still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.
>
> But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !
>
> geoff

I wonder if any JL stuff in here:
https://tonylevin.com/photobook

geoff

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On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:47:14 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 9:24 am, geoff wrote:
> > On 28/02/2022 3:26 am, Norbert K wrote:
> >> This was John Lennon's greeting to bassist Tony Levin when Levin
> >> appeared to work on John's Double Fantasy album.
> >>
> >> Levin laughed, and answered: "Don't worry, John. You've got the
> >> right guy."
> >>
> >> Lennon also prescribed simplicity from drummer Andy Newmark.
> >>
> >> Was this the right approach from Lennon? Are Lennon's best songs
> >> characterized by simple bass and drum parts?
> >>
> >> I'd say "No," in an answer to both questions. I speculate that upon
> >> beginning the Double Fantasy sessions, Lennon's musical confidence was
> >> still low and he didn't want to be challenged by the studio pros.
> >
> > But Tony did manage to squeeze i memorable sophistcated bass parts !
> >
> > geoff
> I wonder if any JL stuff in here:
> https://tonylevin.com/photobook
>
> geoff

That will be a fun site to browse.

I remember Levin saying in an interview that the DF gig was "no-pressure." Working with Buddy Rich, by contrast, was "Nothing but pressure."

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